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Inside the Red Zone: Truth about lies

Maybe IK/PTI was removed in a conspiracy, there is many things which point to that. Lets be real here, something like this is pretty normal in Pak, No PM in Paks history has completed a full term. The politics have always been toxic but that is down to the players who are very much toxic as well. Now what has happened on the back of that is IK has come out firing across all bases, whether what he says is true or not right now doesnt matter because large swaths of the population believe his narrative because those in power have scored plenty of own goals to show how dishonest they are.
 
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You can try to sell as much as you like but there are no takers. All liars, expert in deceptions, chors, haram khors, Ullah ka putha's are laid bare naked by the Imran and no amount of media silence can hide them from the sins they have committed against the poor country other then the coffin they are going to buried into soon by the all mighty.
But there are takers and there will be takers, the foremost being opponents of Imran Khan/PTI. Just going temporarily blind doesn't help the pigeon, does it ? The more Imran Khan speaks and the more he cannot back up his promises, the more dirt he will have to face. You may think that Imran Khan may have exposed a lot of wrong in the system, but it was already exposed '71, 2001-2008 etc. The public chose to stay blind.

While all this mud throwing is helping IK's political gains, the public stands where it was. The public does NOT benefit from exposure or making matters bare naked as it still doesn't fight inflation/shrinkflation or contains expenses for public.

Maybe IK/PTI was removed in a conspiracy, there is many things which point to that. Lets be real here, something like this is pretty normal in Pak, No PM in Paks history has completed a full term. The politics have always been toxic but that is down to the players who are very much toxic as well. Now what has happened on the back of that is IK has come out firing across all bases, whether what he says is true or not right now doesnt matter because large swaths of the population believe his narrative because those in power have scored plenty of own goals to show how dishonest they are.
Its boils down to Political Gains VS benefits for Public.

So what puts food on the table ?
 
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Can the public survive or progress in all this scorched earth concept ?


Sure.

Formulate a strategy and lets work on it.

Oh bhai - Do you think there is "public interest" in ANYTHING Mr. Khan does or says? He almost brought the nation to a brink of serious violence multiple times just in a few month! His officials were instructed to tell the IMF NOT to issue funds and let Pakistan default.

Why? Because HE wasn't in the power. It's ALL about him and his power. It's not about Pakistan or it's people. The only Pakistan that he thinks will exist, is if he's the PM and the only nation that he thinks he'll have is when he says "JUMP and they say, How High? Not WHY? This is one mad man like the Hitler on a power struggle ready to destroy institutions and a whole nation if he's not in the power. I hope this answers.

So what puts food on the table ?

Mr. Khan REMOVED from the system. When one becomes anti-state, the state needs to remove him, period and everyone focus on our REAL issues, poverty, tax collection, income generation, export growth, education, healthcare. Our country has A LOT of problems. But for the past many years, we are stuck with ONLY one and have spend years in dealing with deception, i.e. Mr. Khan!
 
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Oh bhai - Do you think there is "public interest" in ANYTHING Mr. Khan does or says?
Spot on.

He is trying his level best to turn the masses towards bringing him in power making them think he is their savior where as, if he truly was sincere to the public he would be out there concentrating on issues faced in daily lives by public. He is selling them a dream.

Neither am I smart enough or well informed enough as a 12th grader fauji.
Good for you.

Mr. Khan REMOVED from the system. When one becomes anti-state, the state needs to removes him, period and everyone focus on our issues, poverty, tax collection, income generation, export growth, education, healthcare. Our country has A LOT of problems. But for the past many years, we are stuck with ONLY one and have spend years in dealing with deception, i.e. Mr. Khan!
Reminds me of Abdul Sattar Edhi as the best candidate to run this country. He knew the issues that society faced.
 
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On the truth spectrum, where does the chairman PTI lie? A loaded question this is not. At least not entirely. What it is though is a rhetorical concern about what he says, what he means and what it ends up being in actuality. If you think the biggest problem with Pakistani politics today is its toxicity, wait till you hear the real bad news.

At this time of great polarization and zero-sum politicking, our deeply divided electorate has been force-fed a diet of the ‘here-and-now’ conflict. The national discourse is today framed around the date for national elections, provincial dissolutions and who is meeting whom, when, where to deliberate on these quasi-substantive issues. The sum total of our political universe appears to begin now and end in August. Or September. Or October. Beyond that, who knows?

But here’s what we do know. We know that President Arif Alvi is struggling to produce outcomes from his shuttle diplomacy; that Chairman Imran Khan is struggling to generate clarity from his political gymnastics; and Chief Minister Pervaiz Elahi is struggling – mightily so – to convince his coalition leader to desist from diving into a dissolution disaster. On any given day, this triple whammy of individual and collective struggles would be sufficient to occupy the shortening attention spans of a digitally-delusioned electorate, but for what actually lies beneath this superficial crisis.

What does lie beneath then? For this, let us borrow two paragraphs from a writer at Esquire magazine who was of course writing for a different audience but a similar context:

“So, if you don’t know what’s true, you can say whatever you want and it’s not a lie.”

Or,

“Truth is…whatever you can get enough people to believe. The contours of reality can be bent to your needs and desires.”

It is this mishmash of truth and lies, and truth about lies that is now re-arranging the social and cultural norms of our electorate as it busies itself in embracing the zero-sum-ness of power games. Gone is the sacredness of truth and vileness of falsehood. Strange this, given the deep-rootedness of such values in our social and cultural landscape. Or were we just fooling ourselves? And now that the mask is finally off, we recoil in horror at the image in the mirror?

If this be so, credit must go where credit is due. Imran Khan has successfully demolished the walls of facts with the sledgehammer of fiction – and he has done so at a scale that can take your breath away. Unmoored from the burdens of verification, an overwhelming majority of his supporters find solace in the warm glow of fictionalized stories that aim to validate their closely-held beliefs. My truth, they say, is better than your truth because my truth makes me feel better about myself than your truth ever can. So each to our own truths, and may the universe be at peace.

Except, that it is not.

How can it be when millions of Pakistanis find themselves untethered from the binds of verifiable reality?

When they are willingly depriving themselves of the ability to sift fact from fiction, and truth from lies?

When they are allowing themselves to be led up a garden path through hollow verbosity wrapped in illusions of grandeur?

We are sleepwalking into a manufactured and choreographed disaster whose toxic effects will far outlast this election. Or the next one. Or the one after that.

Look around you. Almost every single aspect of the PTI chairman’s narrative has come undone under the powerful glare of truth. From the fantasy of the so-called US conspiracy for ‘regime change’ to the PTI-coordinated and synchronised Daily Mail wild accusations against Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, to the malicious charges against Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah to the inflammable finger-pointing at the civil and military leadership after journalist Arshad Sharif’s tragic murder – everything he claimed as ordained truth has turned to dust.

But here’s the real red flag: to the peddler, all these untruths were known to be untruths before he peddled them, but the peddler peddled them as truths all the same in the belief that these untruths will survive the heat of truths and provide dividends far outweighing the cost of knowingly peddling untruths to a truth-challenged support base.

Truth be told, that is.

White lies, bold-faced lies, compulsive lies or pathological lies – they all extract a cost.

More so when they are fired like salvos in a low-trust society. But the cost becomes truly catastrophic when such lies are weaponized to construct a self-serving meta-narrative by a trigger-happy self-acclaimed populist. The scars of this cost are evident in the damage done to personal reputations, institutional dignity and inter-state relations.

Why would Imran Khan peddle such falsity while in full knowledge of its destructive impact on our society?

One, because he gains.

Two, because he can.


He can because his politics finds traction in an era when emotions are overtaking fact as the determinant of political communication. Lies trigger emotions; bigger lies trigger an avalanche of them. The cascade that ensues binds the peddler of the lie, and the receiver of it, in a strangely intoxicating embrace that is devoid of reason but drenched in fervour.

This fervour is fanned further by another convenience that you can witness among the PTI support base. Their burden of carrying the weight of facts and truth – whatever burden there is left nowadays – is lightened by the ability of the party leadership to make untruths like the US conspiracy fairy tale resonate louder through multiple platforms available in this digital age of information overload.

The process unfolds like this.

Step one: Germinate an untruth from the seed of an event.

Step two: Dress it up with a fanciful theory and garnish it with a selective choice of convenient facts.

Step three: Connect the untruth based theory to a sense of victimhood and select a person/group/institution to blame.

Step four: Bring all party ‘assets’ into the ‘Lie Loop’ and coordinate its dissemination through all available platforms.

Step five: Repeat ad infinitum.

Step six: Declare the untruth as the truth.

But the real truth about the imagined truth is that it exists as a perceived truth inside a bubble of alternate reality engineered by the original peddlers. The supporters of the party live smugly inside this bubble pretending that theirs is the real matrix. Cocooned in this shell, they reinforce their collective beliefs through the validation that comes from living inside an echo chamber. With time these bubbles grow into hatcheries of untruths that draw sustenance from the Big Lie peddled by the peddler. Social media algorithms do the rest by feeding the cocooned with a constant diet of content that nourishes the untruths into bigger and bigger falsities.

It is happening in front of our eyes. And it is weakening the foundations upon which our society is built. If there is one real collective challenge we face today, it is not the mundane concerns about the timing of elections and dissolutions, but this: how to overturn the deluge of orchestrated untruths that are increasingly driving our politics towards the edge of the cliff, and how to push back against those who believe they can attain power by riding a wave of popularity fuelled by an explosive cocktail of small and big lies that resonate loudly inside an alternate reality.

And you thought the battle was just about votes.


The writer is the special assistant to the prime minister on public policy and strategic communication. He tweets @fahdhusain

You yourself are misleading people by using a title different (more divisive) than the one provided by the author of the article. This is against the forum rules as well I think.
 
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You yourself are misleading people by using a title different (more divisive) than the one provided by the author of the article. This is against the forum rules as well I think.
Thank you. Its an opinion, not news.
That reminds me, let me put the title on top of the post.
 
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Article written by fahd hassan enough said
 
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Thank you. Its an opinion, not news.
That reminds me, let me put the title on top of the post.
Yeah but your opinion needs be presented as ‘your opinion’ and not embed it with the content of the article. It doesn’t go well when you are posting an article that starts with ‘On the truth spectrum …’
 
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Now the miltablishment fan boys and geo group is on the same page. The same jang group that ran extreme defamatory articles against the army to please hindutvadis.

So can it be said that Pak establishment is on the same page as hindutvadis regarding IK?
 
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Somebody's backside is on fire :flame:

Or, may be some people with their brains working, hearts hurting seeing IK's bullsh*t hurting Pakistan for power greed are just VERY tired of him and want sensible leaders to work as a team to solve Pakistan's issues vs. this crazy fool's one man show we are stuck watching?
 
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Spot on.

He is trying his level best to turn the masses towards bringing him in power making them think he is their savior where as, if he truly was sincere to the public he would be out there concentrating on issues faced in daily lives by public. He is selling them a dream.


Good for you.


Reminds me of Abdul Sattar Edhi as the best candidate to run this country. He knew the issues that society faced.

The kIng IK had FOUR full years of rule. The military changed his dirty nappies but the baby didn't want to walk, ONLY CRY! And the little King baby didn't produce anything either. All drama, talk, propaganda and dirty nappies so daddy disowned the baby. The baby is VERY upset now and wants to come inside the house and rule again. The baby misses attention from everyone, the bribes, the protocol, the tosha khana TOYS! Need I go more? I got a real list of billions worth of corruption!
 
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How in the world can this guy still masquerade as an impartial journalist is beyond belief.

What next? Articles my Shahid Khaqan or Shahbaz Sharif himself against Khan and similar from the other side?

At least quote someone from an objective point of view to comment on someone's factory output.

His officials were instructed to tell the IMF NOT to issue funds and let Pakistan default.

Can you please cite a source?

Or is this from your 'production factory of lies'?

shortening attention spans of a digitally-delusioned electorate,

Actually reading the article, and seeing this as how he refers to the people, it makes you wonder if these people actually think of us as sensible, logical, human beings who want to make a good choice, or as some cattle to be herded.

I've seen PPP parliamentarians refer to people in much worse words, won't be surprised if N league uses the same.

But having this written in a leading daily, by none other than an SAPM, is quite shocking to say the least.
 
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