What's new

INSASA EXCALIBUR:NOT SCRAPPED YET

Foxbat Alok

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Jan 1, 2016
Messages
228
Reaction score
-4
Country
India
Location
India
Excalibur is an assault rifle which is derived from the INSAS Rifle, which is the standard rifle of the Indian Army. The rifle has many improvements over the INSAS rifle and is slated to replace the INSAS as the Indian Army’s standard assault rifle.

In November 2011, the Indian Army sent a request for proposal (RFP) for 65,678 multi-caliber rifles for about Rs. 4,848 Crore. However, the Army sent a letter to the manufacturers on 15 June 2015, to notify them that the tender has been retracted. After cancelling the tender, the army decided to pursue the new Excalibur rifle developed by the Rifle Factory Ishapore as a replacement for the INSAS rifles.

Excalibur rifle(MIR) is lighter, more compact and fully automatic capable (INSAS is not full auto capable) version of INSAS. The Three Round Burst mode of INSAS rifle is excluded from Excalibur. It is better than INSAS in both open field operations as well as close quarters. Successive improvements were done by Rifle Factory Ishapore on the basis of feedback received from the infantry officers after trials.
The gas-operated, fully automatic rifle has a foldable butt, Picatinny rail for mounting Holographic, telescopic & night sights, sensors and bipods. The Excalibur’s barrel is 4 mm shorter than that of the INSAS and its hand guard is smaller. The recoil is less with good accuracy and effective range than INSAS.
Excalibur rifle performs well on a very large range of temperature -50 to 50 degree Celsius. Many weapons of foreign origin like Beretta ARX 160, CZ-805 BREN, IMI Galil ACE 1, Colt M4 and SIG SG551 were unable to work efficiently over this range.
One good thing about INSAS platform is that it works on a long stroke piston and has very simple chambering using only two locking lugs. Other very important is that it is dirt cheap. Excalibur inherits these properties already. Weight and rate of fire is excellent.

On 1st September 2015 Gen Singh, accompanied by Lieutenant General Sanjay Kulkarni, Director General Infantry (DGI), visited the Rifle Factory Ishapore and personally conducted the ‘water’ and ‘mud’ tests on the rifle, which it reportedly cleared. The Army tested the Excalibur in 2014-2015. The trials were a success as the rifle passed a majority of tests which included many tests many foreign rifles were not able to pass. Some of the trials include –
# User reliability trails
# Firing the rifle after submerging it in water and mud for about half an hour.
# Checking the number of stoppages after firing 24,000 rounds. The Excalibur had only 2 stoppages which was near the expectations of the Army who expected only one stoppage.

Excalibur rifle is awaiting for last round of user trials and final certification from Indian Army. If the Excalibur clears trials ie one stoppage after firing 24,000 rounds, it will be manufactured by the OFB in Rifle Factory Ishapore and could be in the hands of infantry soldiers within two years.
 
.
INSAS_Excalibur_Main-2.png
Excalibur mk1
EXCALIBUR%252BSLR.jpg
:P
Excalibur during defence expo 2016
insas-5.jpg

Excalibur mk2
 
.
Please see the comparable rifle weight.

Excalibur


Weight 3.81 kg (without magazine)
4.03 kg (with full magazine)



M4


Weight 6.36 lb (2.88 kg) empty
7.5 lb (3.4 kg) with 30 rounds

Beretta ARX 160

  • 3.0 kg (6.6 lb) (empty with 302 mm (11.9 in) barrel)
  • 3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (empty with 406 mm (16.0 in) barrel)

K416C

HK416C: 2.950 kg (6.50 lb)
D10RS: 3.020 kg (6.66 lb)
D14.5RS: 3.490 kg (7.69 lb)
D16.5RS: 3.560 kg (7.85 lb)


Why our own new rifle's weight & length is more?
 
.
Please see the comparable rifle weight.

Excalibur


Weight 3.81 kg (without magazine)
4.03 kg (with full magazine)



M4


Weight 6.36 lb (2.88 kg) empty
7.5 lb (3.4 kg) with 30 rounds

Beretta ARX 160

  • 3.0 kg (6.6 lb) (empty with 302 mm (11.9 in) barrel)
  • 3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (empty with 406 mm (16.0 in) barrel)

K416C

HK416C: 2.950 kg (6.50 lb)
D10RS: 3.020 kg (6.66 lb)
D14.5RS: 3.490 kg (7.69 lb)
D16.5RS: 3.560 kg (7.85 lb)


Why our own new rifle's weight & length is more?

Longer and thicker barrel, use of steel based alloy instead of Aluminium and a longstroke piston.But don't worry, it's just a stop gap till the ARDE MCIWS becomes ready.
 
. .
5V4OigG.jpg

oCYZGh7.png


The production of the regular INSAS is done. This will take it's place, if trials go right, till next line of rifles that'll replace the whole INSAS line takes over. As mentioned, a stop gap.
Bro can u share the specification of this gun
& how can u say that it will take the insas place ...may be army will go with ghatak AR bcoz it fire 7.62 ammunition
 
.
Bro can u share the specification of this gun
& how can u say that it will take the insas place ...may be army will go with ghatak AR bcoz it fire 7.62 ammunition


Ghatak will go to insurgency hit places where the AKs are already popular. MK1C will go to the regular infantry, which the INSAS line is regular. Both are honestly not the next gen rifle IA is looking for.
 
.
Please see the comparable rifle weight.

Excalibur


Weight 3.81 kg (without magazine)
4.03 kg (with full magazine)



M4


Weight 6.36 lb (2.88 kg) empty
7.5 lb (3.4 kg) with 30 rounds

Beretta ARX 160

  • 3.0 kg (6.6 lb) (empty with 302 mm (11.9 in) barrel)
  • 3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (empty with 406 mm (16.0 in) barrel)

K416C

HK416C: 2.950 kg (6.50 lb)
D10RS: 3.020 kg (6.66 lb)
D14.5RS: 3.490 kg (7.69 lb)
D16.5RS: 3.560 kg (7.85 lb)


Why our own new rifle's weight & length is more?
Not all bro
Look at ghatak AR
Empty weight: 3.08kg
Loaded weight: 3.5kg
Barrel length:414mm(Cr plated fr longer life)
Ammunition:7.62×32mm

Here. Are some pic
ghatak-new.jpg
ghatak-new.jpg
images-2.jpg
 
. .
Ghatak will go to insurgency hit places where the AKs are already popular. MK1C will go to the regular infantry, which the INSAS line is regular. Both are honestly not the next gen rifle IA is looking for.
OK
But few days ago army said they want 7.62mm ammunition AR
Then how they will choose mk1c (it is also fired 5.56mm bullets )

It's 3.6+ kg empty.
jr3sX5P.jpg



MCIWS is 3.4+kg empty.

MCIWS-11-489x660.jpg
According to this link
Empty weight of ghatak ar is 3.08kg
May be ur source is old
http://www.defenceupdate.in/ghatak-deadliest-assault-rifle/
 
.
OK
But few days ago army said they want 7.62mm ammunition AR
Then how they will choose mk1c (it is also fired 5.56mm bullets )

News is of 7.62×51mm. Ghatak, MK1C, or MCIWS doesnt use that caliber.

According to this link
Empty weight of ghatak ar is 3.08kg
May be ur source is old
http://www.defenceupdate.in/ghatak-deadliest-assault-rifle/

No it's not and that's directly from OFB, same one being trialed. Same one going to be in production.
 
.
OK
But few days ago army said they want 7.62mm ammunition AR
Then how they will choose mk1c (it is also fired 5.56mm bullets )


According to this link
Empty weight of ghatak ar is 3.08kg
May be ur source is old
http://www.defenceupdate.in/ghatak-deadliest-assault-rifle/
To be sure, understand how the IA operates as of today; they have a BATTLE rifle firing a "battle round" (5.56mm) that is the standard issue AR for ALL IA units. And they have the a COIN rifle firing a "COIN round" (7.62mm) used for COIN ops in JK and the NE by the RR and units deployed in such AOs. As stop gap measures the IA will induct the MK1C (5.56mm) and Ghatak (7.62mm) BUT they are still looking for their next generation MULTI-CALIBRE rifle so as to have a common platform able to fire both rounds (and 6.8mm apparently).
 
Last edited:
.
News is of 7.62×51mm. Ghatak, MK1C, or MCIWS doesnt use that caliber.



No it's not and that's directly from OFB, same one being trialed. Same one going to be in production.
7.62X51mm caliber is for Amphibious rifle. i got the RFI notice from army website. This forum is not allowing me to post anything except typed comments . can't share anything . sorry fellas .
 
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom