Inheriting Land in Pakistan As Overseas Pakistani

[SecularNationalist]

Balakot is in KPK bro, and Last I checked its still Part of Pakistan.

You didn't read it carefully.Someareas of it are bordered with Aj&k

 

[Goritoes]

You didn't read it carefully.Someareas of it are bordered with Aj&k

I know, I read your message but I am specifically talking about Balakot Area...I walked around Balakot Bazar area and the surroundings of Balakot is Amazing, people are not stupid scums like people of Muree, shop keepers are not greedy and batameez like Muree.

 

[SecularNationalist]

I know, I read your message but I am specifically talking about Balakot Area...I walked around Balakot Bazar area and the surroundings of Balakot is Amazing, people are not stupid scums like people of Muree, shop keepers are not greedy and batameez like Muree.

Yeah agree murree people are scums of the Punjab.
Balakot is partially Pashtun , hindko maybe that's why but still it has murree and Kashmir people type mentality.
In my opinion the best people for tourists are from GB , northern areas , swat , dir kalam etc.

 

[Goritoes]

Yeah agree murree people are scums of the Punjab.
Balakot is partially Pashtun , hindko maybe that's why but still it has murree and Kashmir people type mentality.
In my opinion the best people for tourists are from GB , northern areas , swat , dir kalam etc.

I couldn't visited Gilgit and Hunza, but my Drive who was from Islamabad talk good about people but bad things about Kashmiri Police, and than I witness it myself the bad attitude of Kashmir police, they are scums as well. But since I visited Balakot I become fan of the place and it my goal to find a small piece of land there to build some sort of vacation home or summer house.

 

[MH.Yang]

If in China, grandchildren do not have the right of inheritance, nor do dead sons.

 

[PakFactor]

If in China, grandchildren do not have the right of inheritance, nor do dead sons.

Then who it goes to…?

 

[MH.Yang]

Then who it goes to…?

Chinese law stipulates that the property of the deceased shall be inherited by the parents, spouses, sons and daughters. The proportion of their inheritance is the same, but they must be living people to have the right of inheritance. If the deceased has no parents, spouses, children, then his grandchildren, brothers, sisters and other relatives have the right to inherit.

 

[Azadkashmir]

except they played clever game my grandads brother family didnt tell electricity ppl that my grandad is dead and the electric monthly rental bill has increased now they want us to pay 700 to 1000 gbp. my arguement is the man died many yrs ago, it should be wiped out plus why brother didnt tell electric bill ppl, trapping us in debt. anyway i keep telling family if thats the case then i can claim my grandads bank account since we are his gran son just like the debt has fallen on us. anyway my grandad family want the land. my dad died last yr so now they making moves building on plot. my family are cowards mum doesnt say much except cursing but scared , dad died and hated the country due to young yrs of poverty and humiliation.
anyway my grandads bro, the sons are in england and they work like spys and send money to family back home and also pump up my dad step brother who is lost soul and gets manipulated by my grandads brother sons to turn against us but anyway it be his loss he find in later life he got manipulated.

 

[Goenitz]

Talk to your grandfather and ask your share. Don't hesitate.
You have to work hard. These are some fb pages of layers, advocates, etc

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=free%20legal%20pakistan

Legal Aid Society

The Legal Aid Society is a not for profit non-governmental organization which was registered on the 19th of November, 2013 under the Societies Registration Act, 1860.

www.las.org.pk

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𝐅𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐋𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐀𝐢𝐝 𝐏𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧, Rawalpindi, Pakistan. 12 186 вподобань · 4 особи обговорюють це · 13 побували тут. Where there is a wrong, there is a remedy.

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BEWARE: Never disclose too much and info that can put your case/property in danger.

 

[313ghazi]

Thank you for answering! Very helpful.

Azad Jammu & Kashmir.

Do you know how I'd go about finding a local advocate whilst overseas?

How much do you think it would cost to get the registry transferred over? Like is there a fixed fee per kanal etc.

Bro Google overseas Pakistani legal services. There are a few people out there.

A long time ago these boys used to be involved in that sort of thing too.

https://m.facebook.com/659282570886345/

Never used them but know they were either doing it or had a connect who did.

Unfortunately can't say how effective or competent any of these people are. I suggest starting in your local city first and seeing if any Pakistani lawyers do this work or know anyone who does.

 

[XVIV]

Talk to your grandfather and ask your share. Don't hesitate.
You have to work hard. These are some fb pages of layers, advocates, etc

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=free%20legal%20pakistan

Legal Aid Society

The Legal Aid Society is a not for profit non-governmental organization which was registered on the 19th of November, 2013 under the Societies Registration Act, 1860.

www.las.org.pk

𝐅𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐋𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐀𝐢𝐝 𝐏𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧 | Rawalpindi

𝐅𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐋𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐀𝐢𝐝 𝐏𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧, Rawalpindi, Pakistan. 12 186 вподобань · 4 особи обговорюють це · 13 побували тут. Where there is a wrong, there is a remedy.

www.facebook.com

BEWARE: Never disclose too much and info that can put your case/property in danger.

Unfortunately my grandad died some years ago so I am unable to go down that much simpler route. Could you expand a bit more on the warning?

Bro Google overseas Pakistani legal services. There are a few people out there.

A long time ago these boys used to be involved in that sort of thing too.

https://m.facebook.com/659282570886345/

Never used them but know they were either doing it or had a connect who did.

Unfortunately can't say how effective or competent any of these people are. I suggest starting in your local city first and seeing if any Pakistani lawyers do this work or know anyone who does.

Thank you. Have been trying to find ones. Unfortunately the local High Commission is useless (and then they wonder why investor confidence is so low).

https://www.ajkbarcouncil.com/

Start here, call them around 9 or 10 am Pakistan time. They maintain a register of all advocates licensed to practice law in AJK.

With regards to fees, it's not "fixed" and will depend on how long the case drags out, how many hearings are necessary along with all legal fees, court fees and appropriate government fees etc.


There are property disputes in New Balakot - avoid investing there for the time being.

Thank you! I will run through the list as soon as I can.

I understand the bit about the fees for the Advocate (I have a similar background myself) - I was wondering about the fees for the land transfer itself - inheritance taxes.

 

[Goenitz]

Could you expand a bit more on the warning?

Nothing specific, just don't expose any vulnerability.

 

[khail007]

Hi all. Been banging my head against a brick wall for some time trying to figure this one out and thought you folks may have an answer for me.

Ordinarily, in Pakistan, what occurs is that a grandfather will die before their children. The children will then proceed to undertake a probate for their inheritance and will receive their shares of the land. When the the grandfather's children die, their children will do the same process and inherit the land once over.

Unfortunately, in my case my father died before my grandfather - with the family land all being in my grandfather's name. This has put a proverbial spanner in the works.

I was wondering then - if my uncles and aunts wanted to do a probate to inherit my grandfather's land and give me my father's share voluntarily, what would be the process for them? And importantly - could it be done without me travelling to Pakistan?

In the alternative, should my uncles and aunts not wish to do anything / refuse to give me my father's share / hold my inheritance as a sword of Damocles over my head, I am aware that s4 of the Muslim Family Laws Ordinance 1961 gives 'orphaned grandchildren' the right to inherit their father's share:

In the event of the death of any son or daughter of the propositus before the opening of succession, the children of such son or daughter, if any, living at the time the succession opens, shall per stirpes receive a share equivalent to the share which such son or daughter, as the case may be, would have received if alive​

If I have to proceed down the route of s4 Muslim Family Laws Ordinance 1961, then what would that basically involve? I would appreciate if someone could provide me with some details as to this. I am aware that I would have to hire an Advocate and instruct them - but how do I go about this as an Overseas Pakistani? And if there is a legal battle - how do I manage that whilst overseas? I am confused as to the practicalities of this.

My other question would be is - there would have to be an initial hearing of some sort. How long would that hearing take to happen? Basically - if by some fluke I manage to find an Advocate, sort out the practicalities of instructing them whilst being overseas, how long will it take from the filing of papers to there hearing a hearing in person?

I am aware that many of you may say that I would be best to speak to an Advocate/Legal Professional in Pakistan but I am finding it difficult to find one in my area in Pakistan (or anywhere for that matter). I have tried to find the answers myself for some time but have hit a brick wall and would greatly appreciate any assistance at all with this.

Regret to hear that. After your father's sad demise you are only eligible for your father's property if he had it in his name.
You have no right to any claim on your grandfather's properties. Your grandfather's property will be distributed among your grandmother/uncles/aunts (dadi, tayas, chachoos and phuphis) as per Islamic law.
Long ago, the same happened to one of my friends and he didn't have anything from his grandfather's property.
The only exception is if your grandfather transferred or mentioned in his inheritance deed something separately for you.
Maybe if there is some comprehension issue on my part, kindly watch below thoroughly, will answer your query:

What Islam says:

Pakistan's Law:

I want to buy a small land in Balakot Area, if anyone knows someone please let me know.. since i visited Balakot and surroundings I am fan of people and place itself, its amazing.

Dear Sir, watch out that area is prone to surgical strikes.

 

[313ghazi]

Unfortunately my grandad died some years ago so I am unable to go down that much simpler route. Could you expand a bit more on the warning?


Thank you. Have been trying to find ones. Unfortunately the local High Commission is useless (and then they wonder why investor confidence is so low).


Thank you! I will run through the list as soon as I can.

I understand the bit about the fees for the Advocate (I have a similar background myself) - I was wondering about the fees for the land transfer itself - inheritance taxes.

Bro the people in the high commission are snakes with legs. Avoid them at all costs.

 

[XVIV]

Regret to hear that. After your father's sad demise you are only eligible for your father's property if he had it in his name.
You have no right to any claim on your grandfather's properties. Your grandfather's property will be distributed among your grandmother/uncles/aunts (dadi, tayas, chachoos and phuphis) as per Islamic law.
Long ago, the same happened to one of my friends and he didn't have anything from his grandfather's property.
The only exception is if your grandfather transferred or mentioned in his inheritance deed something separately for you.
Maybe if there is some comprehension issue on my part, kindly watch below thoroughly, will answer your query:

What Islam says:

Pakistan's Law:

Dear Sir, watch out that area is prone to surgical strikes.

This is the oft-misunderstood assumption in Pakistan. See the second part of my first post. If your friend has an established base in Pakistan that he can rely on, then he would likely be able to travel and find an advocate willing to take the case up for him.