Infringement of freedom in the name of security

[Safriz]

UK is the most watched nation in the world....

originally these CCTV were fitted for Irish republican army as hey were blasting bombs in UK...
now its a tool of oppression rather than security

 

[ajtr]

I dont mind CCTV.Its better to be safe than sorry.

 

[Pride]

You guys getting it wrong. First of all if you analize the situations, we see that the governments are the number one supporters of crime because the things they bring in to life is not for now but for future where everybody will be controlled from 1 post. But to bring this alive you need to have a reason and the reason must be security. And to create this security reason you need to organize big terror crimes etc. I dont know about you but i get irritated when i see a camera above me and behind that camera is a man that record this and register it. Every movement every step, every payment etc. will be registered. Can we talk about freedom when everything is checked? Freedom must not be only in your room, but freedom must be everywhere.

I am not sure what is making you and people like you uncomfortable. What government will do by observing me whether I am buying from Tommy or doing street shopping. One in the crowd who is not doing anything wrong gets deleted after a month or so from the tapes then what is the worry? The concept of CCTV came only in existence when idiots like shop lifters/ Bandits/ thief etc came into existence. We need to trace them back and annihilate. Don't we? So for one's comfortable shopkeepers will not stop using it.
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''Planning or doing something wrong'' argument will not change my opinion about the fact that these capitalists are blocking my freedom and are trying to control a mass population that only will obey their commands.

What is the world "Capitalist" doing here I see it as a unguided mis-quote here. For me, they are providing more freedom in case of something wrong happens to me or Looks something suspicious there. Perspective!

If they will put a micro gps chip in to the thumb of your new born baby in name of security, what would you do? Refuse? But it is already a mandatory law.. What do we have left as a individual person when everything, everything is under control by the goverment..

We are not talking about Human tracking as that becomes a different case of discussion just like Internet monitoring.

Fingerprint at airports is already required in the most countries.

About 15 years ago:

Yes I have given my Finger prints 2 times to US Government and until I do something wrong then I am OK with it.

 

[KingMamba]

This is a question talked about a lot in the United States. Which is more important to the common man his liberty or his security? If it is his liberty then he will have to sacrifice some parts of his security and if it is his security then he will have to give up some of his liberty. Either way there comes a point where they must draw a line.

 

[Killuminati]

I am not sure what is making you and people like you uncomfortable. What government will do by observing me whether I am buying from Tommy or doing street shopping. One in the crowd who is not doing anything wrong gets deleted after a month or so from the tapes then what is the worry? The concept of CCTV came only in existence when idiots like shop lifters/ Bandits/ thief etc came into existence. We need to trace them back and annihilate. Don't we? So for one's comfortable shopkeepers will not stop using it.

What is the world "Capitalist" doing here I see it as a unguided mis-quote here. For me, they are providing more freedom in case of something wrong happens to me or Looks something suspicious there. Perspective!

We are not talking about Human tracking as that becomes a different case of discussion just like Internet monitoring.

Yes I have given my Finger prints 2 times to US Government and until I do something wrong then I am OK with it.

Why should the goverment need to know where i go and what i pay for? You know the prisons? You have everywhere observing cameras and guards in it right to check 24/7 what the convicts doing and NOT ESCAPING? If you bring this in public, you will place the people in to the same rank of the convicts. Its not a case if you do something wrong or not, its a case about how they treat us and that they creating a ‘’open’’ prison. And yes, the so called security system must prevent people escaping from their slavery system that will be go alive in the future. We already have a slave system now but in future it will be more and more strictly and nobody will have a word on it and nobody can escape from it.

Why would it be different if they already can track you everywhere and why are you suddenly agains a gps chip if you dont have worries and if the goverment need to know where the people are for their security etc. You fall in to contradiction right now.

They try to watch you 24/7
They have your fingerprint
They will take your blood (DNA) in some years

And ask yourself, what do you have left for yourself after this that secures your individual freedomship on this planet? Nothing..

 

[ajtr]

This is a question talked about a lot in the United States. Which is more important to the common man his liberty or his security? If it is his liberty then he will have to sacrifice some parts of his security and if it is his security then he will have to give up some of his liberty. Either way there comes a point where they must draw a line.

For liberty one must have security first.If i dont have security i wont be able to come out of my house to enjoy the public freedom.Btw CCTV at public places is not an infringement of freedom.