Information on future Israeli armored vehicles

[DavidSling]

The first vehicle named Eitan will be a 32 ton 8x8 wheeled vehicle that would serve as an APC.

The second vehicle under the Carmel program will be a 35 ton tracked vehicle.

The Eitan is meant to be a low-cost state of the art vehicle that will be easy to produce for the mass use of the entire army, as the replacement for the M113.
It will operate alongside the Namer as a 2nd line medium APC.
The eitan APC will have touch screens,high maneuverability, and either 30 MM cannon/Spike missiles/7.62 MM machine gun.
Elbit's IronVision helmet was chosen for Eitan
Production is expected to begin by 2020.

The "Carmel" (unknown name yet) is considered as a program of its own, but these vehicles are practically the same. The only exception is that the Carmel is tracked.
It will receive a new turret and will operate alongside the Merkava 4 as a more multipurpose platform.
A wide range of armament is also developed for it.
Production expected in 2025.

Both prototypes are with the same hull, and the platforms are said to be highly modular.
The turret on the Carmel will be unmanned and removable, thus allowing a quick conversion of the vehicle to an APC.
Among the possibilities are a 120mm mortar, a howitzer, a recovery vehicle, a combat engineering vehicle, bridgelayer and more.

1 of the main features is a jointly developed APS by IMI, Rafael, and IAI.
The APS is expected to feature not one, but two interceptors or maybe even 3 types of interceptors working independently. These will provide anti-ATGM and anti-KE defense.

Initially predicted to be a universal platform like the Armata, it is not really the case anymore.
Namers will be produced until 2027, with new batches coming this year with the Trophy.
Merkava 4 tanks are expected to be produced until 2020.
And the ATMOS was picked as the future artillery, and is now in development.

As said before in several interviews, this family of vehicles will not be a replacement for the current Merkava family and its derivatives.

And sadly there are no pictures of the prototypes yet.

Also, lately more Namer armored vehicles have been given to the army.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...icle/74346650/
https://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthread.php?39729-More-information-on-future-Israeli-vehicles
http://news.walla.co.il/item/2977227
https://defence.pk/threads/this-ironvision-helmet-can-see-through-armor.434434/#post-8401738

@Penguin @500 @Natan @PARIKRAMA @sarjenprabhu @mike2000 is back @Blue Marlin

 

[Drashid]

What type of advanced systems does Egypt have?

 

[DavidSling]

What type of advanced systems does Egypt have?

How is Egypt is connected to this article?

 

[Drashid]

How is Egypt is connected to this article?

I just thought it would be good to compare.

 

[The SC]

I just thought it would be good to compare.

Egypt is up to date.. no worry..

 

[migflug]

We too have massive program to replace BMP with modular platform. It is about. 10-11$billion program to induct 2600 ficv. Two private contenders will be chosen . Maybe we will cooperate on this with Israel or Russia(armata). But ficv weights only about 18ton afaik. Details:


The FICV will be more than just a conventional armoured vehicle for transporting troops. It will feature advanced technologies and multidisciplinary integration. As per the Expression of Interest (EoI) by the Defence Ministry, the FICV would be operated by three crew members and carry seven additional soldiers with combat loads. The FICV will facilitate protection from bullets fired by 14.5-millimetre calibre weapons. It will be amphibious and it must be air-transportable, which would imply a maximum weight of 18-20 tonnes. Besides that, the FICV will have cannon and be capable of firing anti-tank missiles. An indigenous content of at least 50 per cent has been mandated.

 

[ebrahym]

Elbit's IronVision helmet was chosen for Eitan
Production is expected to begin by 2020.

oh these Israelis ..... they are post-WWII Germans ......... awesome stuff

 

[DavidSling]

 

[DavidSling]

TEL AVIV — Israel unveiled Monday its indigenous Eitan demonstrator, a wheeled, actively protected armored personnel carrier (APC) that it hopes to purchase in vast quantities over the coming decade and beyond.

At less than 35 tons, the 8x8 wheeled Eitan — Hebrew for steadfast — weighs and will cost nearly half that of new Merkava Mk4-based Namer heavy carriers now in production, according to the Ministry of Defense (MoD).

Both new vehicles are designed to carry 12 infantrymen and will replace the thousands of M113s that still support the bulk of Israeli infantry forces.

Brig. Gen. Baruch Matzliah, head of the MoD's Tank Production Office that developed both vehicles, said Eitan “will be the most advanced, protected wheeled fighting tool in the world.”

According to the officer, Eitan was designed as a low-cost, multi-mission platform, which will allow Israel to equip itself with more vehicles at a higher rate in parallel to purchases of the Namer heavy APC.

Eitan is expected to incorporate a new generation of active protection, based on the Trophy Active Protection System (APS) developed by state-owned Rafael. It also will feature an advanced, unmanned 30- or 40-millimeter turret and a full compliment of munitions and sensors.

“It will be a lot lighter [than Namer] and will be designed to cost,” Maj. Gen. Guy Zur, commander of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Ground Forces Command, told Defense News in an interview earlier this year. “It may be less good [as the Namer], but it will be affordable and allow us to equip a large part of our force.”

Matzliah said the project was borne from operational lessons learned from the 2014 Gaza war. Capable of unassisted road travel at more than 90 kilometers per hour, the Eitan — the first wheeled carriers in Israel’s military history — “enable fast, strategic mobility” and are “tailored to the existing threats in the arena,” Matzliah said.

In an Aug. 1 announcement, MoD said the Tank Production Office and the Israeli military’s Ground Forces Command have just begun a series of field trials to determine performance in “varied and complex” conditions.

In the earlier interview, Zur said Eitans are part of his Ground Horizon plan, a strategic blueprint for designing Israel’s future ground force over the next two decades.

The plan also includes development of another demonstrator program called Carmel — a Hebrew acronym for Advanced Ground Combat Vehicle — aimed at driving the design of a future tank to be deployed as a compliment to the 65-ton Merkava Mk4.

The officer said Carmel is not intended to replace the Mk4, which will remain in production through 2020, but is rather a demonstrator program to evaluate a state-of-the-art, medium-weight combat vehicle. It will most likely be treaded, not wheeled.

Under the Army’s Ground Horizon plan, Eitan is expected to be ready for fielding in about five years. In contrast, Carmel is not expected to enter service until 2025 or 2027.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...-actively-protected-armored-carrier/87907090/

 

[Nabil365]

Kinda similar looking to Singapore's Terrex.

 

[DavidSling]

Kinda similar looking to Singapore's Terrex.
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Yeah but kinda big difference in the specs

 

[Natan]

Kinda similar looking to Singapore's Terrex.

 

[F-15I]

i really dont see any difference between all this wheeled ACP's , from outside most off them look very similar, by the way any details about active protection?

 

[DavidSling]

i really dont see any difference between all this wheeled ACP's , from outside most off them look very similar, by the way any details about active protection?

Trophy
Should include Iron Vision too, according to some sources

 

[Penguin]

Powertrain and suspension may be Boxer based.

See also: https://defence.pk/threads/israel-b...-future-fighting-vehicle.442220/#post-8530699