Inevitable Sino-US Mediation over Kashmir Conflict By Zaheerul Hassan

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

First of all balochistan is not a disputed territory and according to united nation it is an integral part of Pakistan while united nation calls kashmir a disputed territory.

Hinduism in pakistan was never popular and it was never accepted by indus people, Hinduism was created by brits in 1830's. Nowhere in the Vedas, Puranas or any other religious text prior to 1830 AD are the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana Dharma' used. Not a single inscription contains the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana' prior to the Muslim era.

Dont bring religion in this thread you will only embarrass yourself

i agree baluhistan is not a disputed territory. even kashmir has been removed from the list of disputed territories recently..

hinduism was not created by britsh. its a religion dating thusands of years. if u have no knowledge of hinduism please do not speak for it will be u who will get embarrased.

i was just quoting the examples to highlight the "shame aspect".

 

[Fireurimagination]

Obviously you got your education in a mandir, Before islam came majority of pakistanis were buddhists and yes buddhist is not an extension of hinduism.

And obviously you got your's from a madarssa. Well Hindus do believe Buddha was the 9th incarnation was Lord Vishnu, what about before Buddhism?

No religion discussion is allowed here otherwise i would have embarrassed you more

LOL embarrass me? but as no religion discussion is allowed so let's leave it there

U gonna talk about extremism but u are suggesting that the Kashmiris pick up arms and screw India on your own because if India doesn't want to give up Kashmir but Kashmir wants to become a part of Pakistan or get independence it's gonna have to revolt and you are gonna call them terrorists while they are freedom fighters and we are gonna have another separatist movement in India.....

Do you seriously believe Indian government will get sick of few killings here and there and leave Kashmir? How long do you believe a separatist movement can be sustained, it started in 1989 and is breathing it's last breaths. Hardcore Kashmir Separatists (the one with guns) have acknowledged the same that a gun can find no solution

Back-channel negotiations are going on kashmir Delhi and Isb with active mediation from usa and china since 2009 onwards.Positive signs of it can be seen on ground.Delhi has made up its mind regarding kashmir solution.world will see free kashmir with in next 2-3 years.Delhi no more considers kashmir as integral part of india which is another positive sign.3rd positive sign is this year delhi wont unfurl the tricolor in kashmir this republic day in 63 yrs. and blockade of BJP ekta yatra is step towards that.

Hehehe This kind of mentality will never let a practical solution to the Kashmir tangle be implemented

 

[Tashfin]

i agree baluhistan is not a disputed territory. even kashmir has been removed from the list of disputed territories recently..

hinduism was not created by britsh. its a religion dating thusands of years. if u have no knowledge of hinduism please do not speak for it will be u who will get embarrased.

i was just quoting the examples to highlight the "shame aspect".

I agree with PureAryan

Prove it that hinduism is thousand years old, you cant but you can only argue,

Nowhere in the Vedas, Puranas or any other religious text prior to 1830 AD are the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana Dharma' used.

Show us any religious text prior to 1830 about santana dharma

 

[Tashfin]

And obviously you got your's from a madarssa. Well Hindus do believe Buddha was the 9th incarnation was Lord Vishnu, what about before Buddhism?
LOL embarrass me? but as no religion discussion is allowed so let's leave it there

Then why was buddha persecuted in bharat, Why is it buddhism and buddhists were exterminated from bharat if buddhist were formerly hindus, and today most budhists live outside its place of birth, Bharat

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

I agree with PureAryan

Prove it that hinduism is thousand years old, you cant but you can only argue,

Nowhere in the Vedas, Puranas or any other religious text prior to 1830 AD are the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana Dharma' used.

Show us any religious text prior to 1830 about santana dharma

"hinduism" as a term is relatively new. but the actual term is sanatan dharma. may be term hinduism has become popular. if u have time u can get sites where u can read extracts of vedas where term "sanatan" is used. u can also search net if u have time before passing immature judgements.

 

[Tashfin]

"hinduism" as a term is relatively new. but the actual term is sanatan dharma. may be term hinduism has become popular. if u have time u can get sites where u can read extracts of vedas where term "sanatan" is used. u can also search net if u have time before passing immature judgements.

Mate, nothing wrong with accepting the truth, Asoka and hinduism are british creation, No ancient text prior to 1830's mention anything about asoka and hinduism, They are history less.

I am only going to reply if you give me an intellectual answer otherwise, Alvida

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

Mate, nothing wrong with accepting the truth, Asoka and hinduism are british creation, No ancient text prior to 1830's mention anything about asoka and hinduism, They are history less.

I am only going to reply if you give me an intellectual answer otherwise, Alvida

HMM, WAIT FOR IT.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

India won't give up Kashmir.US already said it won't intervene and why would it like to go against India,when it's own pres. is running behind us?China,can't intervene much and if it does it can be handled.

Left is Pakistan,Pakistan can do all that it wants but the result will be the same as it has been in the previous 4 wars .
So wake Mr.Zaheerul Hassan,your thoughts are yours and are away from reality.

 

[ganimi kawa]

1. Hinduism was created by brits in 1830's. Nowhere in the Vedas, Puranas or any other religious text prior to 1830 AD are the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana Dharma' used. Not a single inscription contains the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana' prior to the Muslim era.

2.Dont bring religion in this thread you will only embarrass yourself

1. From Manu smruti (200- 300 AD)

satyam bruyat priyam bruyat na bruyat satyam apriyam
priyam ca nanrutam bruyat esha dharmah sanatanah

Speak truth in such a way that it should be pleasing to others. Never speak truth, which is unpleasant to others. Never speak untruth, which might be pleasant. This is the path of eternal morality, sanatana dharma.


You got your proof, now, stfu about my religion!


2.

 

[PoKeMon]

I agree with PureAryan

Prove it that hinduism is thousand years old, you cant but you can only argue,

Nowhere in the Vedas, Puranas or any other religious text prior to 1830 AD are the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana Dharma' used.

Show us any religious text prior to 1830 about santana dharma

I didn't want to indulge in religion bashing but you guys have no shame in questioning others religion existence then let me ask you---

Let the islam is 200000000 years old what it matters?
Let the hinduism is 2 days old what it matters? Nobody in this world, anywhere in this world is shame of saying 'I am Hindu'.
That is what matters.

 

[KS]

1. From Manu smruti (200- 300 AD)



Speak truth in such a way that it should be pleasing to others. Never speak truth, which is unpleasant to others. Never speak untruth, which might be pleasant. This is the path of eternal morality, sanatana dharma.


You got your proof, now, stfu about my religion!

Ouch that was shoved right up *there*.

 

[Tashfin]

1. From Manu smruti (200- 300 AD)



Speak truth in such a way that it should be pleasing to others. Never speak truth, which is unpleasant to others. Never speak untruth, which might be pleasant. This is the path of eternal morality, sanatana dharma.


You got your proof, now, stfu about my religion!


2.

If only you had read his post clearly, You wouldn't have made yourself a laughing stock.

Prove it that those quotes are not from some corrupted religious text published after 1830's

You cannot prove it, British corrupted every religious text after 1830's. I can also give you references which mentions asoka and santana dharma written after 1830's.

Hindus don't give a damn about Manusmriti. Vedas, Puranas and Upanishads are more holy to them.

Fact remains, you can only quote from corrupted text published after 1830's. You cannot quote any book prior to 1830's. Try harder you wont find any.

http://www.jstor.org/pss/179424

 

[Ganges Zephyr]

On the topic: US and/or China will never mediate on Kashmir issues. Others dont have might. so open and shut case. Kashmir remains with India and Pak gazing it like fox at distant grapes

 

[ganimi kawa]

If only you had read his post clearly, You wouldn't have made yourself a laughing stock.

Prove it that those quotes are not from some corrupted religious text published after 1830's

You cannot prove it, British corrupted every religious text after 1830's. I can also give you references which mentions asoka and santana dharma written after 1830's.

Hindus don't give a damn about Manusmriti. Vedas, Puranas and Upanishads are more holy to them.

Fact remains, you can only quote from corrupted text published after 1830's. You cannot quote any book prior to 1830's. Try harder you wont find any.

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OK, this is my last post on this as we are digressing from the topic at hand.

I think your post makes 3 arguements.

1. British corrupted every religious text after 1830's.

That is delusional and I'll tell you why....

Transmission of texts in the Vedic period was by oral tradition alone, preserved with precision with the help of elaborate mnemonic techniques.

. Such traditions of Vedic chant are often considered the oldest unbroken oral tradition in existence, the fixation of the samhita texts as preserved dating to roughly the time of Homer (early Iron Age).

So, you want to say that the British took hold of every man who could chant veda and corrupted them just to invent a religion!


2.Hindus don't give a damn about Manusmriti. Vedas, Puranas and Upanishads are more holy to them.
---Yeah , alright! I'm a hindu (in case you've forgotten!)

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That is the difference between word "Hindu" and "Sanatan Dharma". While the former came into use during the muslim invasions the latte
r has always been there!



P.S. As an added bonus.....

Prodigous energy was expended by ancient Indian culture in ensuring that these texts were transmitted from generation to generation with inordinate fidelity.

For example, memorization of the sacred Vedas included up to eleven forms of recitation of the same text.

The texts were subsequently "proof-read" by comparing the different recited versions.

Forms of recitation included the jaṭā-pāṭha (literally "mesh recitation") in which every two adjacent words in the text were first recited in their original order, then repeated in the reverse order, and finally repeated again in the original order

So yes, our texts were corrupted by the british and world is ruled by martians in secret!

 

[Tashfin]

OK, this is my last post on this as we are digressing from the topic at hand.

I think your post makes 3 arguements.

1. British corrupted every religious text after 1830's.

That is delusional and I'll tell you why....





So, you want to say that the British took hold of every man who could chant veda and corrupted them just to invent a religion!


2.Hindus don't give a damn about Manusmriti. Vedas, Puranas and Upanishads are more holy to them.
---Yeah , alright! I'm a hindu (in case you've forgotten!)

3.JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

That is the difference between word "Hindu" and "Sanatan Dharma". While the former came into use during the muslim invasions the latte
r has always been there!



P.S. As an added bonus.....




So yes, our texts were corrupted by the british and world is ruled by martians in secret!

You haven't contributed anything valuable to this discussion, already gave you the source which confirms hinduism invented by british, here is another by university of madras professor THE EVOLUTION OF HINDUISM by Dr M Philip

" Hinduism comprises the
religions of to-day, which are neither Vedic nor aboriginal,
but a fusion of corrupt Vedic doctrines with aboriginal
non-Aryan cults."

In other words hinduism has nothing to do with vedism but is a corruption of vedic doctrines by british