Indonesia passes criminal code banning sex outside marriage

[nufix]

I dont upset on this new condition.

Geopolitically speaking. Current foreign policy that suggest Indonesia should be neutral on power games between US and The West vs China has already right and will likely get more support from the elites from this moment.

Those who wants Indonesia buy F 15 EX will likely get more hurdles to realize the plan. This is the likely impact related to defense procurement in my opinion. The crack between The West and Indonesia could possibly start at this moment I would say.

We will likely be still friend, but for Indonesia we will likely be more cautious friend than before, I mean we are once upon a time have already gotten US and EU weapon embargo even though we never conduct any nuclear test like Pakistan and India or showing seriousness in acquiring nuclear weapon like Iran.

And time has told us again that friendship with the West is not on equal terms. The US and EU wants to force us to accept their values but they wont even bother to understand our values, let alone accepting them. That is not friendship, that is a master-slave relationship.

 

[Indos]

No one stopping you from upholding your values in your private life.

What you want is , to enforce your values on others in your society , who may not share the same values.

I don't know how many of those are in Indonesia , But even a small minority wishes , should not be crushed by the majority. Democracy is not the dictatorship of the majority over the minority.

The will of a person is his dignity , respect other other's wishes and your wishes too , will be respected .

Indonesia could jail people for having sex outside marriage under new laws

The legislative overhaul will also ban insulting the president or state institutions and expressing any views counter to the state ideology

au.finance.yahoo.com

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Western media and many Western analist, including Liberal Activist mislead the world. They never use neutral Political Analist when discussing the issue.

Any Indonesians who understand what happen during 2019 student demonstration know that 2019 demonstration is about Anti Corruption Law. It is because Parliament wanted to make both Anti Corruption Law and Criminal Law as legal bill in the same time during 2019 that make the demonstration is huge in 2019. Both protester who protest New Anti Corruption Bill and New Criminal Law come up in the same place, the same time in 2019.

The weird thing is that Western Media make news focusing on New Criminal Law during 2019 and relating those protesters as Anti new criminal Law while the truth is that Student protest who brough the largest protester was protesting about new Anti Corruption Law during that time.

New anti corruption Law passed in 2019 makes KPK ( Anti Corroption Body) becomr part of Government, not neutral anymore, this is absurd and very logic university students to have large demonstration during 2019. That photo that you show happened in 2019.

This is why there are no wide protest you see this time. It is because new Anti Corruption Law has been passed in 2019 and this time you can see only around 10 people protesting new Criminal Law.

This is absurd to see Western media analist dont know this. This is their own mistake as they don use neutral political analist to discuss about the issue and Indonesian liberal activist and commentator also hide this very clear fact that any Indonesians who follow Indonesian politics would have already understood

 

[Menthol]

Western media and many Western analist, including Liberal Activist mislead the world. They never use neutral Political Analist when discussing the issue.

Any Indonesians who understand what happen during 2019 student demonstration know that 2019 demonstration is about Anti Corruption Law. It is because Parliament wanted to make both Anti Corruption Law and Criminal Law as legal bill in the same time during 2019 that make the demonstration is huge in 2019. Both protester who protest New Anti Corruption Bill and New Criminal Law come up in the same place, the same time in 2019.

The weird thing is that Western Media make news focusing on New Criminal Law during 2019 and relating those protesters as Anti new criminal Law while the truth is that Student protest who brough the largest protester was protesting about new Anti Corruption Law during that time.

New anti corruption Law passed in 2019 makes KPK ( Anti Corroption Body) becomr part of Government, not neutral anymore, this is absurd and very logic university students to have large demonstration during 2019. That photo that you show happened in 2019.

This is why there are no wide protest you see this time. It is because new Anti Corruption Law has been passed in 2019 and this time you can see only around 10 people protesting new Criminal Law.

This is absurd to see Western media analist dont know this. This is their own mistake as they don use neutral political analist to discuss about the issue and Indonesian liberal activist and commentator also hide this very clear fact that any Indonesians who follow Indonesian politics would have already understood

They are publishing news based on the agenda.

Not reporting the actual news.

 

[sammuel]

The US and EU wants to force us to accept their values

Nope , it is you who want to force your values on the rest of your society.

Can you explain how is this different from the Mullahs in Iran trying to force the hijab or the Taliban forcing the burka ?

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[nufix]

Nope , it is you who want to force your values on the rest of your society.

Can you explain how is this different from the Mullahs in Iran trying to force the hijab or the Taliban forcing the burka ?

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You mean like Israeli lands for Jews only? That kind of values?

 

[Dalit]

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Here is a thought.

Why not go a step further and ban sex altogether ?

That way at least , in a generation or so , we will be rid of them and their stupidity.

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Not everyone is interested in becoming a whore house. Why are you guys constantly trying to impose your way of life on others? We have seen it all now. LGTBQ, feminism, Western liberalism etc. It is moral decay and some sane countries don't want any part of it.