Indonesia Maritime defence and security issue

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Update images from 4 Vietnamese illegal fishing boats that were seized in Natuna waters (17/6)

 

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RI to mark Aug. 17 by sinking 3 Chinese fishing boats

A minister may ratchet up the already tense relations between Jakarta and Beijing to a new level with her plan to blow up three Chinese fishing boats and the dispatch of 400 Indonesian vessels to fish in waters unilaterally claimed by China.

Emphasizing Indonesia’s refusal to succumb to China’s might, Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti said the three boats would be among 71 foreign fishing vessels listed to be sunk for poaching during the celebration of the 71st anniversary of Indonesian independence on Aug. 17.

Several of the vessels will be destroyed in the waters of Natuna Islands, which lie the closest to a demarcation used by China as the basis of its claim to around 90 percent of the resource-rich South China Sea — a claim rejected last week by a UN tribunal.

“I want to celebrate Independence Day this year in Natuna, where I will witness the sinking of many foreign vessels,” Susi said on Monday.

Susi said the legal status of one of the three Chinese vessels was already binding while the others were still awaiting court decisions scheduled to be issued before Aug. 17.

“I expect the three can be sunk together on Aug. 17 with dozens of other vessels in Natuna,” she said.

“Anyway, this is not just about China because we will destroy all foreign vessels without favor.”

Indonesia destroyed 176 foreign vessels, including one from China, between October 2014 and April 2016 for poaching in Indonesian waters.

Jakarta’s particularly firm stance toward Beijing came after Indonesian authorities almost came to blows with China’s coast guard on two occasions this year in the course of attempts to detain Chinese fishing vessels for alleged poaching.

China’s maneuvers in the waters have hinged on its decision to include Natuna waters within its self-declared nine-dash demarcation line, and its description of the waters as its “traditional fishing grounds”.

China is Indonesia’s biggest trading partner, and recently channeled billions of dollars in loans for Indonesia’s infrastructure development.

Susi said she would fly to Natuna on Friday to prepare the Independence Day celebrations as well as to establish housing for hundreds of fishermen from Java’s northern coastal area whom the government have deployed to Natuna.

The government is providing 400 ships for the fishermen to operate in Natuna. Their presence will assist the ministry’s anti-illegal fishing task force, the Navy and the Maritime Security Board (Bakamla) in their task of clearing the area of foreign poachers.

Susi will also set up cold-storage facilities, integrated fishing facilities for fishermen and detention centers for arrested illegal poachers in Natuna, as well as witnessing the groundbreaking of the Navy’s Command and Control Center (Puskodal) in the islands.

Bakamla chief Rear Adm. Ari Soedewo said that following President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo’s recent visit to Natuna and China’s decision to assert its presence in the South China Sea, especially since losing the arbitration case, Indonesia had intensified patrols in the area to protect its sovereignty.

“There are around 10 warships now patrolling in Natuna. If we don’t do that foreign poachers will come to steal our fish,” Ari told The Jakarta Post, adding that many foreign vessels had attempted to enter Natuna recently but they ended up leaving the area after seeing the intensive patrols by Indonesian maritime authorities.

However, blowing up ships as Independence Day fireworks does not come cheap. Natuna’s Ranai naval base commander Col. Arif Badrudin told the Post recently that the government spent around Rp 370 million (US$28,000) simply on preparing six vessels for sinking in Natuna in April.

“That cost excludes the explosives. That’s only for paying for the fuel for the Navy ships towing and guarding the vessels to their resting place, and for the manpower to carry out the job. We have to summon a dozen demolition experts from Jakarta to do it,” he said.

He estimated that cost of explosives and their preparation could amount to more than Rp 300 million for the six vessels.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/07/19/ri-mark-aug-17-sinking-3-chinese-fishing-boats.html

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Jakarta seeks anti-illegal fishing agreement at ASEAN meeting

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  Liza Yosephine
  The Jakarta Post
  

Jakarta | Fri, July 22 2016 | 09:15 am

Five foreign fishing boats from Vietnam and Malaysia are blown up in Batam waters, Riau Islands on Tuesday. Twenty-three boats have been sunk after being caught fishing illegally in Indonesian waters. (Antara/M N Kanwa)
Indonesia wants the upcoming ASEAN meeting in Laos from July 23 to 26 to issue an official statement on how to eliminate illegal fishing, an official has said.

"Indonesia will prioritize an ARF statement on cooperation to prevent, deter and eliminate illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing," Foreign Ministry ASEAN dialogue partner and inter-regional cooperation director, Derry Aman, said on Thursday.

The ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF), which involves 26 country participants and the European Union, is part of a series of official meetings at the ASEAN Ministerial Meeting (AMM) in Laos.

The group was still discussing the statement, Derry said. Indonesia hopes the statement can be ratified and made into a reference for future cooperation within the ARF framework on the eradication of illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing, he added.

Jakarta under the Joko “Jokowi” Widodo administration has stepped up the war against illegal fishing by destroying dozens of foreign boats operating in its waters.

Foreign Minister Retno LP Marsudi will attend the 49th AMM, which is to hold 18 official meetings throughout its four-day period. Derry pointed to the AMM as the event with the most extensive series of meetings involving ASEAN and its dialogue partners: Australia, Canada, China, the European Union, India, Japan, New Zealand, Russia, South Korea and the United States. (ary)

http://www.thejakartapost.com/seasi...legal-fishing-agreement-at-asean-meeting.html

 

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Indonesia marine police seized 2 vietnamese illegal fishing vessels in Natuna waters, July 22, 2016

http://news.detik.com/berita/3260136/polri-tangkap-2-kapal-dan-22-abk-wn-vietnam-di-perairan-natuna

 

[BoQ77]

They are Malay boats. I guess they are from Johore

 

[pr1v4t33r]

They are Malay boats. I guess they are from Johore

I don't know. All the crew are vietnamese, and illegal fisherman often use double flagging tactics.

 

[BoQ77]

I don't know. All the crew are vietnamese, and illegal fisherman often use double flagging tactics.

It's popular to see Vietnamese crew in a Taiwan or Korea fishing boat. In the case, we still consider the boat as Taiwan, Korea.

Johor Mersing fishing boat. Btw, I am just in Mersing a week ago.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It's popular to see Vietnamese crew in a Taiwan or Korea fishing boat. In the case, we still consider the boat as Taiwan, Korea.

Johor Mersing fishing boat. Btw, I am just in Mersing a week ago.

Either the coast guard found the ship registry that say the ship are Vietnamese or the Poachers rent a ship from malaysia either way the viet poachers are screwed..

 

[BoQ77]

Either the coast guard found the ship registry that say the ship are Vietnamese or the Poachers rent a ship from malaysia either way the viet poachers are screwed..

Maybe the Vietnamese fishermen was recruited

 

[pr1v4t33r]

I'll wait from the official source. I could be wrong, but from what i see from similar operation before. Vietnamese often use this type of fishing boat.

 

[BoQ77]

I'll wait from the official source. I could be wrong, but from what i see from similar operation before. Vietnamese often use this type of fishing boat.
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Like this ? specifically, this boat has the Malay name( Malay origin? ) but with reg number Vietnam

illegal is illegal.

Anyway, the KM Kurnia 09 has Vietnam registration belong to BV ( Ba ria - Vung tau ) : BV xxxxxx TS
The JMS00635K has a structure which you guess Vietnam style, but it has Johor Mersing registration.

So even its crewmen is Vietnamese, to me, it's a Malay fishboat, the Malay could have bought the boat with its crewmen from Vietnam

or Vietnam crewmen erected their familar structure onto a Johor Mersing boat that they hired to operate. ( it's easy as the structure basically a simple ladder)

 

[Place Of Space]

RI to mark Aug. 17 by sinking 3 Chinese fishing boats

A minister may ratchet up the already tense relations between Jakarta and Beijing to a new level with her plan to blow up three Chinese fishing boats and the dispatch of 400 Indonesian vessels to fish in waters unilaterally claimed by China.

Emphasizing Indonesia’s refusal to succumb to China’s might, Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti said the three boats would be among 71 foreign fishing vessels listed to be sunk for poaching during the celebration of the 71st anniversary of Indonesian independence on Aug. 17.

Several of the vessels will be destroyed in the waters of Natuna Islands, which lie the closest to a demarcation used by China as the basis of its claim to around 90 percent of the resource-rich South China Sea — a claim rejected last week by a UN tribunal.

“I want to celebrate Independence Day this year in Natuna, where I will witness the sinking of many foreign vessels,” Susi said on Monday.

Susi said the legal status of one of the three Chinese vessels was already binding while the others were still awaiting court decisions scheduled to be issued before Aug. 17.

“I expect the three can be sunk together on Aug. 17 with dozens of other vessels in Natuna,” she said.

“Anyway, this is not just about China because we will destroy all foreign vessels without favor.”

Indonesia destroyed 176 foreign vessels, including one from China, between October 2014 and April 2016 for poaching in Indonesian waters.

Jakarta’s particularly firm stance toward Beijing came after Indonesian authorities almost came to blows with China’s coast guard on two occasions this year in the course of attempts to detain Chinese fishing vessels for alleged poaching.

China’s maneuvers in the waters have hinged on its decision to include Natuna waters within its self-declared nine-dash demarcation line, and its description of the waters as its “traditional fishing grounds”.

China is Indonesia’s biggest trading partner, and recently channeled billions of dollars in loans for Indonesia’s infrastructure development.

Susi said she would fly to Natuna on Friday to prepare the Independence Day celebrations as well as to establish housing for hundreds of fishermen from Java’s northern coastal area whom the government have deployed to Natuna.

The government is providing 400 ships for the fishermen to operate in Natuna. Their presence will assist the ministry’s anti-illegal fishing task force, the Navy and the Maritime Security Board (Bakamla) in their task of clearing the area of foreign poachers.

Susi will also set up cold-storage facilities, integrated fishing facilities for fishermen and detention centers for arrested illegal poachers in Natuna, as well as witnessing the groundbreaking of the Navy’s Command and Control Center (Puskodal) in the islands.

Bakamla chief Rear Adm. Ari Soedewo said that following President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo’s recent visit to Natuna and China’s decision to assert its presence in the South China Sea, especially since losing the arbitration case, Indonesia had intensified patrols in the area to protect its sovereignty.

“There are around 10 warships now patrolling in Natuna. If we don’t do that foreign poachers will come to steal our fish,” Ari told The Jakarta Post, adding that many foreign vessels had attempted to enter Natuna recently but they ended up leaving the area after seeing the intensive patrols by Indonesian maritime authorities.

However, blowing up ships as Independence Day fireworks does not come cheap. Natuna’s Ranai naval base commander Col. Arif Badrudin told the Post recently that the government spent around Rp 370 million (US$28,000) simply on preparing six vessels for sinking in Natuna in April.

“That cost excludes the explosives. That’s only for paying for the fuel for the Navy ships towing and guarding the vessels to their resting place, and for the manpower to carry out the job. We have to summon a dozen demolition experts from Jakarta to do it,” he said.

He estimated that cost of explosives and their preparation could amount to more than Rp 300 million for the six vessels.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/07/19/ri-mark-aug-17-sinking-3-chinese-fishing-boats.html

"Several of the vessels will be destroyed in the waters of Natuna Islands, which lie the closest to a demarcation used by China as the basis of its claim to around 90 percent of the resource-rich South China Sea — a claim rejected last week by a UN tribunal."
This is not a UN tribunal, the newspaper fooling the Indonesian as pi9s.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

"Several of the vessels will be destroyed in the waters of Natuna Islands, which lie the closest to a demarcation used by China as the basis of its claim to around 90 percent of the resource-rich South China Sea — a claim rejected last week by a UN tribunal."
This is not a UN tribunal, the newspaper fooling the Indonesian as pi9s.

Tomato Tamata. Not gonna stop them from being blown up though. See you on aug 17.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

This is not a UN tribunal,

Let's not deffer from the main topic in hand. Indonesia gonna blow up 3 chinese illegal fishing boats.

So even its crewmen is Vietnamese, to me, it's a Malay fishboat, the Malay could have bought the boat with its crewmen from Vietnam

or Vietnam crewmen erected their familar structure onto a Johor Mersing boat that they hired to operate. ( it's easy as the structure basically a simple ladder)

That's possible. Or this could be Vietnamese company investing their business in Johore, Malaysia. So they use their familiar fishing boats and importing the crew from vietnam.

 

[Place Of Space]

Tomato Tamata. Not gonna stop them from being blown up though. See you on aug 17.

The newspaper wrote wrong the most importance part, very easy to check the article. I doubt ther are professional reporter in Indonesia?

Let's not deffer from the main topic in hand. Indonesia gonna blow up 3 chinese illegal fishing boats.



That's possible. Or this could be Vietnamese company investing their business in Johore, Malaysia. So they use their familiar fishing boats and importing the crew from vietnam.

Not deffer main topic, in order to charge they are illegal Chinese fishing boats, the newspaper lie that is a UN tribunal. This is how Indonesian do things. Use fake information to cover that Indonesia illegally ruin 3 Chinese fishing boats.