Indonesia Defence Forum

[mengkom]

whoa is that m1 garand??

ruger mini 14 in 5.56 caliber to be exact
Polri have them in large quantity before it was replaced by SS-1 sabhara

 

[Mahakam]

Do we have shortage of optic? or we prefer ADS style?

 

[Nike]

Do we have shortage of optic? or we prefer ADS style?

shortage? is never sufficient to begin with

 

[pr1v4t33r]

EDITORIAL: Jokowi's diplomacy

Beyond the human yet popular approach of diplomacy á la President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo, characterized by his wefie sessions and video blogging with fellow world leaders, Indonesia’s international standing has gained prominence, as shown during the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany, over the weekend.

The elite forum restricted to the world’s most developed nations and emerging economies saw Indonesia playing a pivotal role, rather than second fiddle, as was apparent in the joint statement of leaders underlining the need for international cooperation in countering terrorism. The cooperation will take shape in information sharing between intelligence and law enforcement agencies, which is a timely move given the spread of terrorist cells across the globe.

The summit came against the backdrop of the recapturing of Mosul that signals the imminent defeat of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group in Iraq. Many have warned, however, that a new danger is lurking as the IS foreign fighters with their bomb assembling and combat skills will return home and cause trouble there. The spillover of the fight against IS is now occurring in Marawi in the nearby southern Philippines.

As this daily has reported, Indonesia, which has been fighting terrorism for decades, won praise from fellow G20 members for its ability to balance hard and soft approaches through counterterrorism operations to foiling attacks and deradicalizing convicted terrorists. Despite its imperfections, Indonesia is seen as a role model in the fight against terrorism, as a result of its compliance with the rule of law, rather than excessive use of power.

For sure, Indonesia is well experienced in counterterrorism and will become a force to reckon with, taking advantage of its moderate strain of Islam. Having the world’s biggest Muslim population while being democratic is an asset that Indonesian leaders, including Jokowi, have capitalized on in a bid to contribute to world peace, as promulgated in the preamble of the 1945 Constitution.

Outside the terrorism issue, Indonesia’s voice was loud and clear in asserting its national interests vis-à-vis the developed world. During the G20 summit, Jokowi sought every avenue available to convince the United States and European Union members to lift their barriers against Indonesia’s key export commodity, palm oil.

As the world’s largest palm oil producer, Indonesia has been suffering from the restriction, which has been imposed on the pretext of massive deforestation resulting from improper subsidies the government gives the industry.

Indonesia also used the G20 forum to confirm its commitment to the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions that we and the world agreed upon in the Paris Agreement in 2015. Then-president Barack Obama included the US in the deal to fight climate change, but his successor Donald Trump, who attended the G20 summit in Hamburg, has retracted the US commitment.

Indonesia’s assertive diplomacy as shown in the annual G20 meeting is a message of the country’s bid to play a bigger role that it deserves in world fora. Jokowi’s attendance at more international events in the future will testify to this.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2017/07/12/editorial-jokowis-diplomacy.html

 

[Satria Manggala]

Latihan Kesiapsiagaan Koarmabar 2017

 

[pr1v4t33r]

KRI 518 at DKB

 

[Nike]

FROM INDONESIA
DONE! INDONESIA AKUSISI NASAMS
12 JULY 2017 DIANEKO_LC LEAVE A COMMENT
Indonesia akhirnya mengakusisi sistem pertahanan udara NASAMS (Norwegian Advanced Surface to Air Missile) untuk menjaga wilayah udaranya. (Photo : Rio)

Indonesia mengakusisi dua satbak NASAMS pada tahap pertama. (Photo : Rio)

Selain berfungsi sebagai sistem pertahanan udara, NASAMS dapat difungsikan sebagai coastal defence. (Photo : Rio)

Sistem NASAMS terdiri dari kendaraan peluncur, kendaraan posko/ FDC (Fire Distribution Center) dan sistem radar 3D serta penjejak optik yang didesain modular. (Photo : Rio)

NASAMS bisa diangkut dengan pesawat C-130 Hercules. Sistem dapat didesain untuk diluncurkan dari platform bergerak yakni truk 5 ton. (Photo : Rio)

Rudal yang dipilih bisa modular. Untuk jarak pendek ada AIM-9 Sidewinder seri P4, L atau X. Untuk jarak menengah ada AIM-7 Sparrow, dan untuk jarak jauh ada AIM-120C/D AMRAAM dengan jangkauan 20 km. (Photo : Rio)

AMRAAM yang dipergunakan adalah minimal varian AIM-120C7 yang bisa dual mode (udara dan darat). (Photo : Rio)

Dua dari tiga rudal tersebut sudah dan akan dimiliki oleh TNI AU, sehingga urusan logistik amunisi akan jauh lebih mudah. (Photo : Rio)

Tahap pertama telah selesai dilaksanakan, kita tunggu pengadaan tahap kedua. (Photo : Rio)

Keterangan gambar : D.E.S dan Angkasa

All photos : (RIO)

confirmed, NASAMS

 

[initial_d_mk2]

Which missile do we bought for Nasams, sidewinder or Amraam!?
And where will the TNI gonna put the system?

 

[Nike]

Which missile do we bought for Nasams, sidewinder or Amraam!?
And where will the TNI gonna put the system?

both of them

Natuna and Jakarta likely

Thales proposes Watchkeeper UAS for Indonesian Air Force's ISTAR requirements

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
11 July 2017

Key Points

• Thales has offered the Watchkeeper UAS for the Indonesian Air Force's requirements
• System is being considered to improve the service's surveillance, reconnaissance, and target acquisition capabilities

The Thales Watchkeeper UAV over ParcAberporth, Wales. (Thales)

Thales UK is positioning the company's WK 450 Watchkeeper unmanned aircraft system (UAS) for the Indonesian Air Force's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Udara: TNI-AU's) intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance (ISTAR) requirements.

According to sources from within the service who spoke to Jane's on 11 July, a presentation on the UAS' capabilities was made by officials from Thales UK to the TNI-AU's office for planning a budget in mid-April 2017. The UAS, which has been derived from Elbit Systems' Hermes 450 tactical unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) system, was originally developed for the British Army.

The Watchkeeper airframe generally has the same specifications as the Hermes 450, including a wing span of 10.5 m, a maximum take-off weight of 550 kg, and a maximum payload of 180 kg. The system is propelled by a single piston engine, and features an endurance of about 17 hours with a service ceiling of 5,485 m.

The UAS can be equipped with two sensor payloads, and in the UK configuration, features a forward-mounted Thales I-Master ground-moving target indicator/synthetic aperture radar (SAR/GMTI) and a rear-mounted electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) sensor turret.

The airframe can also be equipped with effectors such as laser designators and target markers, and weapons such as the Free Fall lightweight multi-role missile (LMM) air-dropped, precision-guided munition from Thales Advanced Weapon Systems.


Source: http://www.janes.com/article/72219/t...r-requirements

 

[ground zero]

Which missile do we bought for Nasams, sidewinder or Amraam!?
And where will the TNI gonna put the system?

I think this system equip with Sidewinder missile rather than amraam because its so expensive.

 

[GraveDigger388]

it is sad how sometimes people directly assume that there's a shady reason why a product is not selected by a government bodies for their procurement. as if performance, manufacturing capability, cost, aftersales service, and many more of said product are not parts of the deciding factors...

it is however funny sometimes when people think that because a prototype is done and has been perfected that mean that the product is ready for sales... as if "industrial engineering" is not even a thing.

So, getting production lines ready is the main problem for most of Private Defence Industry?

FROM INDONESIA
DONE! INDONESIA AKUSISI NASAMS
12 JULY 2017 DIANEKO_LC LEAVE A COMMENT
Indonesia akhirnya mengakusisi sistem pertahanan udara NASAMS (Norwegian Advanced Surface to Air Missile) untuk menjaga wilayah udaranya. (Photo : Rio)

Indonesia mengakusisi dua satbak NASAMS pada tahap pertama. (Photo : Rio)

Selain berfungsi sebagai sistem pertahanan udara, NASAMS dapat difungsikan sebagai coastal defence. (Photo : Rio)

Sistem NASAMS terdiri dari kendaraan peluncur, kendaraan posko/ FDC (Fire Distribution Center) dan sistem radar 3D serta penjejak optik yang didesain modular. (Photo : Rio)

NASAMS bisa diangkut dengan pesawat C-130 Hercules. Sistem dapat didesain untuk diluncurkan dari platform bergerak yakni truk 5 ton. (Photo : Rio)

Rudal yang dipilih bisa modular. Untuk jarak pendek ada AIM-9 Sidewinder seri P4, L atau X. Untuk jarak menengah ada AIM-7 Sparrow, dan untuk jarak jauh ada AIM-120C/D AMRAAM dengan jangkauan 20 km. (Photo : Rio)

AMRAAM yang dipergunakan adalah minimal varian AIM-120C7 yang bisa dual mode (udara dan darat). (Photo : Rio)

Dua dari tiga rudal tersebut sudah dan akan dimiliki oleh TNI AU, sehingga urusan logistik amunisi akan jauh lebih mudah. (Photo : Rio)

Tahap pertama telah selesai dilaksanakan, kita tunggu pengadaan tahap kedua. (Photo : Rio)

Keterangan gambar : D.E.S dan Angkasa

All photos : (RIO)

confirmed, NASAMS

Satu satbak berapa batre bu?

 

[Var Dracon]

The downside of SAM-turned AAM is that the range decreases dramatically from its AAM variant... You can see from Madokafc's post that even 105-160 km range of AIM-120C/D decreased to just 20 km... This is because AAM generally doesn't have sustainer motor.
AMRAAM only fire its motor for 6-7 seconds then it soars to the target... This is no problem if launched from aircraft. If launched from land based launcher, gravity affects the missile resulting in dramatically lost of range (especially after the fuel ran out in about that 7 seconds). Speed of AMRAAM is 1360 m/s, in 7 sec the missile just covered 9,5 km range.

I would support NASAMS as a moving SAM for escorting moving troops... But for fixed instalation is no. TNI should buy "real" SAM (that means not SAM-turned AAM) with greater range.

 

[initial_d_mk2]

For a motorised moving SAM battery i rather choose pantsyr to protect mobile assets (tank, troop etc), Nasams are perfect for protecting fixed asset like millitary base, and if we want long range air defence, S-400 or standard SM-6 Will do the job (if we can afford it gkgkgk), anyway this is a milestone improvement for our air defence capabilities, hope we can bought bigger quantities in the future

 

[NEKONEKO]

The downside of SAM-turned AAM is that the range decreases dramatically from its AAM variant... You can see from Madokafc's post that even 105-160 km range of AIM-120C/D decreased to just 20 km... This is because AAM generally doesn't have sustainer motor.
AMRAAM only fire its motor for 6-7 seconds then it soars to the target... This is no problem if launched from aircraft. If launched from land based launcher, gravity affects the missile resulting in dramatically lost of range (especially after the fuel ran out in about that 7 seconds). Speed of AMRAAM is 1360 m/s, in 7 sec the missile just covered 9,5 km range.

I would support NASAMS as a moving SAM for escorting moving troops... But for fixed instalation is no. TNI should buy "real" SAM (that means not SAM-turned AAM) with greater range.

For a motorised moving SAM battery i rather choose pantsyr to protect mobile assets (tank, troop etc), Nasams are perfect for protecting fixed asset like millitary base, and if we want long range air defence, S-400 or standard SM-6 Will do the job (if we can afford it gkgkgk), anyway this is a milestone improvement for our air defence capabilities, hope we can bought bigger quantities in the future

NASAMS better to protect fixed high value target, after this try to buy longer SAM
for mobile SAM not very high priority and already got komodo with ATLAS
buy more oerlikon to protect other AFB

 

[striver44]

NASAMS better to protect fixed high value target, after this try to buy longer SAM
for mobile SAM not very high priority and already got komodo with ATLAS
buy more oerlikon to protect other AFB

step by step we will continue to upgrade and improve our air defense system..........I'm confident that the top military planners are moving to implement multi layered defense system in the future

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Indonesia selects DSME for submarine overhaul contract



Key Points

• DSME has been selected to partner PT PAL for repair and overhaul work on Indonesia's lead Cakra-class boat
• Project will extend operational life of the diesel-electric submarine to 2024

The TNI-AL's lead 209/1300 Cakra-class submarine, KRI Cakra. (DSME)

Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) has been selected to carry out maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) work on the Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL's) lead Cakra (Type 209/1300)-class diesel-electric submarine, industry sources confirmed with Jane's on 11 July.

The South Korean company will partner with Indonesian state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL as joint lead contractors in the project, which seeks to overhaul KRI Cakra 's machinery, and see the installation of new electro-optical and GPS components on the boat's periscope mast.

The contract also includes general hull rehabilitation works, and a replacement of the submarine's combat management system (CMS). These works are expected to involve a number of other sub-contractors, but the names are not immediately available.

Jane's first reported in November 2015 that the Indonesian government has received proposals from DSME and DCNS for the USD40 million project, which seeks to extend the service life of Cakra till at least 2024. Jane 's understands that DSME was selected due its technology transfer proposals, which were deemed to be more beneficial for the local shipbuilding industry.

Cakra is one of two Type 209/1300 submarines currently operated by the TNI-AL. The boats were built by German shipbuilder Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW), and have been in service since 1981. According to Jane's Fighting Ships , the platform features an overall length of 59.5 m, an overall beam of 6.2 m, and a hull draught of 5.4 m, and is armed with eight 533 mm torpedo tubes.