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how about C-705...? cancelled or keep buying from china...? . What is best candidate to replace C-705 if cancelled ...? how about RBS 15...? sama curhat dikit , niat mau Ngebahas alutsista china (khusunya C-705) di Group sebelah ehh malah dibully njir. Kapok aku kapok.
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What group? :)

BTW, changing C-705 to other AShM missile is ok. The problem is, that we have the money or not. There are a lot of missile that is better than C705. But when the money talk, we should understand that the most important matter is to balance between "the quality" "the quantity", and "The cost". It's not only the quality of the missile, but also the quantity (the number that we need for our ships), and then the cost that we must pay to buy, replace, and maintain the weapon. If RBS15 has meet those criteria, then why not?

I'm sure that when the government chose C705, they didn't think that this missile is the best missile in the world. But more because of the cost, and of course, the TOT (has been cancelled).
 
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What group? :)

BTW, changing C-705 to other AShM missile is ok. The problem is, that we have the money or not. There are a lot of missile that is better than C705. But when the money talk, we should understand that the most important matter is to balance between "the quality" "the quantity", and "The cost". It's not only the quality of the missile, but also the quantity (the number that we need for our ships), and then the cost that we must pay to buy, replace, and maintain the weapon. If RBS15 has meet those criteria, then why not?

I'm sure that when the government chose C705, they didn't think that this missile is the best missile in the world. But more because of the cost, and of course, the TOT (has been cancelled).

digroup fb anjay ane di ledekin mending china udah bisa mbuat , lah indonesia bisa apa...? anjay . dah ane diem aja ane tinggal tuh group , Padahal ane cuma berbagi cerita Perihal Gagalnya C-705 dan mengenai kualitas alutsista china .Terus ane nyaranin buat Beralih ke Exportir senjata selain china . ehh taunya ada orang thailand nyemprot ane gara-gara kesinggung kan thailand beli KS dari china .Dia ngiranya ane ngeldek njir . ampun dah tobat .ngapuro :( .

for moderator i'm sorry for using indonesian language.
 
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Will come in the near next year....great for navy and the cadet .
Almost twice bigger...


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Perbandingan Antara KRI Dewaruci dengan Bima Suci

JAKARTA - Kadispenal Laksamana Edi Sucipto menjelaskan keunggulan kapal latih tiang tinggi (tall ship) KRI Bimasuci sebagai penerus sang legenda KRI Dewaruci milik TNI Angkatan Laut.

“Jumlah layar 26 buah (KRI Bimasuci), sedangkan KRI Dewaruci 16 buah. Jika di KRI Dewaruci tidak terdapat ruang kelas, maka KRI Bimasuci menyediakan ruang kelas secara khusus sebagai tempat belajar para taruna AAL saat berlatih dalam operasi Kartika Jala Krida. Ruang kelas yang tersedia mampu memuat 100 orang taruna,” ujar Edi melalui siaran pers yang diterima Okezone, Selasa (28/6/2016).

Lebih lanjut Edi menjelaskan KRI Dewasuci memanfaatkan geladak terbuka sebagai ruang rekreasi, sementara KRI Bimasuci menyiapkan ruang rekreasi dalam sebuah ballroom berukuran 11 x 10,5 meter persegi. “Tingkat kenyamanan juga jauh lebih meningkat sebab KRI Bimasuci menyiapkan perangkat multimedia,” katanya.

KRI Bimasuci sendiri mampu menyediakan akomodasi bagi 203 personel. Kecepatan maksimal mencapai 12 knot jika menggunakan daya dorong mesin dan 15 knot jika menggunakan layar. Sementara itu untuk tingkat endurance (ketahanan berlayar tanpa mengisi BBM) dapat mencapai 30 hari. Kapal layar tiang tinggi ini pun dilengkapi dengan 5 dek, 7 kompartemen, dan 48 blok.

Medio Januari lalu atau tepatnya 27 Januari 2016 KRI Bimasuci memasuki tahap peletakan lunas (keel laying). Dalam sambutannya, Direktur Galangan Guillermo Freire Garcia menyampaikan ucapan terima kasih kepada Pemerintah Indonesia atas kepercayaan yang diberikan kepada perusahaannya untuk membuat kapal layar latih.

“Sebuah kepercayaan, sekaligus tantangan bagi kami, karena kami tahu bahwa pendahulu kapal ini, yakni KRI Dewaruci telah menjadi kapal yang terkenal dan menjadi legenda dunia”, kata Guillermo dalam bahasa Indonesia yang lancar.

Keel laying merupakan bagian dari empat tradisi yang melekat pada setiap pembangunan kapal angkatan Laut. Urutan lengkapnya adalah peletakan Lunas (keel laying), peluncuran (launching), peresmian kapal (commissioning) dan purnatugas (decommissioning).

Pihak galangan rencananya akan meluncurkan kapal layar tiang tinggi tersebut ke laut pada pada akhir September 2016. Pada Januari hingga Mei 2017 kapal layar itu akan menjalani tahap harbour trial dan sea trial.

(Okezone)
 
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Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile....range 185km, with GPS and IR seeker

is it? and the booster seem like to be changeable with the further range.
will be a good alternate for national naval missile...if there is TOT scheme offered by our norge friend. :D
since Norway is one of country that have high technology in naval defense sector...beside some indonesian naval asset is equipped with european technology.
 
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They are the descendants of the Viking, what do you expect? :lol:

They build from their natural challenge...

Our submarine use cms from kongsberg...include the three upcoming submarine.
If we use the same source for our surface asset, it will more easier to integrated between platform.
It will more easier for commander to mantain the naval group.
With the other european product i think the're many commonality in some aspect, like data comunication..so its called datalink in simple words.
Beside, their product have high quality.... TOT is my other expectation.
 
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is it? and the booster seem like to be changeable with the further range.
will be a good alternate for national naval missile...if there is TOT scheme offered by our norge friend. :D
since Norway is one of country that have high technology in naval defense sector...beside some indonesian naval asset is equipped with european technology.

Yes...I prefer European-made missiles also....NSM, RBS 15 Mk3, Exocet MM40 Block III, all are great missiles. Indonesia needs to invest on a lot of money. In many cases, weapons and ammo are more important than the carrying platform. Don't forget the detection and fire control suites as well....
 
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2nd SIGMA frigate
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KRI Teluk Bintuni (520), the first localy made LST
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Mock-up for Medical Support Vessel, the new planned hospital ship for the Navy
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KRI Kujang (642), this is how fully armed KCR-40 class looks like...
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