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[Indos]

Like i said before bro, "There is no Coincidence" in intelligence world, all must be considered seriously he may doing it deliberately to test how long our interceptor can react. He knows the penalty is only paying some fees and he will be deported back to US.

If he is an Australian so it is understandable but if he is US citizen so I dont know why USA wants to test our defense system...?

The fine should be raised as well, too cheap, I also dont know why it should be Sukhoi that do that, it is cheaper using F 16 / Hawk / T-50

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Like i said before bro, "There is no Coincidence" in intelligence world, all must be considered seriously he may doing it deliberately to test how long our interceptor can react. He knows the penalty is only paying some fees and he will be deported back to US.

He maybe wanna test our reaction time, while our Air Force wanna push through SU-35 deal by showing off Sukhoi Fighter Jets prowess every single time this kind of incident happen. Their motive kinda complement each other well

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

If he is an Australian so it is understandable but if he is US citizen so I dont know why USA wants to test our defense system...?

The fine should be raised as well, too cheap, I also dont know why it should be Sukhoi that do that, it is cheaper using F 16 / Hawk / T-50

That triangle between Southern Philippines - Sabah Malaysia and Sulawesi has been a key for weapon and terrorist transfer routes (Mindanao - Poso) we cant close our eyes that CIA might playing a role in supporting / creating Abu Sayyaf group, while Nur Misuari group is more nationalistic view choosing peaceful autonomy, Abu Sayyaf is more "internationalistic" vowing their allegiance to ISIS caliphate. Anyone behind ISIS would love to have a terrorist breeding /training ground there. Well that only one aspect other than hundreds of possibilities. Of course is not Australian since their "domain" is eastern Indonesia especially Papua.

Learning from history right before Israel conduct their legendary rescue mission to Entebbe airport in Uganda, they still have missing intelligence of the latest photo of the airport so they send a mossad agent in a cessna pretending as civilians pilot having an engine failures and tell the airport he will make circular flight in order to emergency landing, but what he did is taking 360 angle photo all around terminal and then reported that his engine is ok and he can continue his flight without having to land. The Uganda soldier take that as just normal "coincidence" like "this is thing is a common thing" "engine failures happen" and didnt take action. Few days later they pay the price of their lack of alert and awareness.

It may sounds paranoid but counter-intelligence cannot work with "presumed innocent" dogma - everything is a threat and guilty before proved innocent. That how its should work.

 

[faries]

Don't be fooled, true friend never exist....be aware of every scenario #conspiracytheory

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

Helicopter Division at PT DI Bandung...

 

[Indos]

That triangle between Southern Philippines - Sabah Malaysia and Sulawesi has been a key for weapon and terrorist transfer routes (Mindanao - Poso) we cant close our eyes that CIA might playing a role in supporting / creating Abu Sayyaf group, while Nur Misuari group is more nationalistic view choosing peaceful autonomy, Abu Sayyaf is more "internationalistic" vowing their allegiance to ISIS caliphate. Anyone behind ISIS would love to have a terrorist breeding /training ground there. Well that only one aspect other than hundreds of possibilities. Of course is not Australian since their "domain" is eastern Indonesia especially Papua.

Learning from history right before Israel conduct their legendary rescue mission to Entebbe airport in Uganda, they still have missing intelligence of the latest photo of the airport so they send a mossad agent in a cessna pretending as civilians pilot having an engine failures and tell the airport he will make circular flight in order to emergency landing, but what he did is taking 360 angle photo all around terminal and then reported that his engine is ok and he can continue his flight without having to land. The Uganda soldier take that as just normal "coincidence" like "this is thing is a common thing" "engine failures happen" and didnt take action. Few days later they pay the price of their lack of alert and awareness.

It may sounds paranoid but counter-intelligence cannot work with "presumed innocent" dogma - everything is a threat and guilty before proved innocent. That how its should work.

Thanks for the explanation mate, and of course I put Australia just for an example and not directly relate them with this current intrusion. Really appreciate your knowledge here.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

PT Dirgantara Indonesia Looks to Finalise IF-X Workshare


The some differences between IF-X and KF-X are : drag chute for landing, refuelling probe, and external drop tank (photo : Defense Studies)

Indonesian Airframer PT Dirgantara Indonesia (Persero) is still working towards the finalization of its work-share for the IF-X generation stealth multi-role fighter. The air-framer will work with South Korea's Defence Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) to deliver the IF-X combat aircraft to the Indonesian Air Force. IF-X is the name given to the Indonesian version of the Korean KF-X, 4.5 generation stealth multi-role fighter.

Ade Yuyu Wahyuana, VP Business Development & Marketing at Persero, told Daily News, "Discussions are continuing in Jakarta on the 30% work-share and the work-share agreement is yet to be signed with DAPA." " We are looking at two big jobs, the engineering work package and aircraft manufacturing for the KF-X." Important, Ade says, "We don't intend to be a fighter manufacturer. We will look at translating the technology we obtain from this program for our commercial aircraft programs. The first priority for the company is to look to how best it can fulfill the operational requirements of the Indonesian Air Force (IAF) for the IF-X.



KF-X fighter (photo : Defense Studies)

"There will be some differences between the Korean KF-X and our IF-X and we looking at how to comply with these requirements," says Ade. The important changes being planned for the IF-X as compared to the Korean KF-X are; Drag Chute for Landing, Finalizing of Refueling Probe Configuration (hose and drogue or receptacle) and carriage of an external Drop tank for increased range.

The KF-X and IF-X 4.5 generation stealth fighter be available in both single and tandem seating cockpit configuration. It will feature advanced aerodynamic design and stealth features such as integrated chine and faceted fuselage, caret shape ramp intake and a diamond Shape Wing. It will be fitted with next-generation AESA radar and avionics. Weapons carriage capability will be significant as a result of 10 Hard Points and a 16,000 lb (4,400 kg) store capability, It will have four semi-conformal hard points for AMRAAM.

(Defense & Security 2015 Daily News)

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Don't be fooled, true friend never exist....be aware of every scenario #conspiracytheory

What is true friend anyway? If we don't know ourself, even we, could become our own worst enemy.

 

[faries]

credit to Agus Ahmadin, via Bwengak @Formil Kaskus

credit to Tofanoe Dean, via Bwengak @Formil Kaskus

 

[pr1v4t33r]

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

This is called TOT We can Build and produce with own and develope other type and already sell it to other countries as was done philippine. Thanks to South Korea.

 

[Krakatau Class]

Hi all.
Salam hormat untuk sesepuh2 Indonesia di sini.
Mohon petunjuk dan bimbingannya.

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

Hi all.
Salam hormat untuk sesepuh2 Indonesia di sini.
Mohon petunjuk dan bimbingannya.

Selamat bergabung...

Welcome to the party

 

[Krakatau Class]

Selamat bergabung...

Welcome to the party

Thank you mas bro.
by the way is there any update of US of A F-16 Viper offer to us ?
I think we should stick to the Russian one.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Thank you mas bro.
by the way is there any update of US of A F-16 Viper offer to us ?
I think we should stick to the Russian one.

Theres no official confirmation about F-16 V it seems that our government didnt show interest to the offer although the Air Force would be happy having them because of easier maintenance and the fact that its airframe can be extended to serve for longer years.
The problem with Su-35 is on the TOT requirement, Russia is very tricky to deal with especially on contract term.
Without good maintenance technology transfers it would be harder to maintain them in high level of combat readiness.
In fact from 5 Su-27 we acquire from Russia, currently only two aircraft can still fly, the rest is out of action and maybe being cannibalized for spare parts