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[Indos]

Armata turret looks so vulnerables, but pindad tank lack of proper protection weighting only 35 ton max, i hope we could develops active protection system like trophy or afganit to be installed on this medium tank, but i like the look of pindad tank more than the armata.

The design of Pindad FNSS medium tank also incorporate amphibious capability in my opinion, 35 ton weigh tank is actually good for fast maneuver movement in town and cities and the ability to convert it into amphibious version. With development of anti tank missile, many tank is actually in risky mode, the attack will be coming from above.

Turkey has so many information from Syria war since they support one of the faction there, we hope we can get many information regarding of tank effectiveness in Today modern battle from our Turkish friend in FNSS. Our Army staying in Lebanon can also try to have some information from Hisbullah regarding their battle with Merkaya tank that is so successful, and then pass the information to Pindad people. Note that our Army is in South Lebanon (Hisbullah home base)

 

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The design of Pindad FNSS medium tank also incorporate amphibious capability in my opinion, 35 ton weigh tanka actually good for fast maneuver movement in town and cities and the ability to convert it into amphibious version. With development of anti tank missile, many tank is actually in risky mode, the attack will be coming from above.

Turkey has so many information from Syria war since they support one of the faction there, we hope we can get many information regarding of tank effectiveness in Today modern battle from our Turkish friend in FNSS. Our Army staying in Lebanon can also try to have some information from Hisbullah regarding their battle with Merkaya tank that is so successful, and then pass the information to Pindad people. Note that our Army is in South Lebanon (Hisbullah home base)

Does pindad medium tank can act as heavy ifv like merkava? I observe the engine placement is in the front, that mean there significant space in it's belly and rear. Are you sure this tank can swin in the water just like K-21 and BMP3??

 

[Bhayangkara]

Sure, I prefer of our medium tank design, I think it's very similar to the design of Leo-2RI revo. Except for the side hull, its looks like there's no protection. Perhaps if had been fitted with AMAP add-on armour its will look much better..

 

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[Indos]

Does pindad medium tank can act as heavy ifv like merkava? I observe the engine placement is in the front, that mean there significant space in it's belly and rear. Are you sure this tank can swin in the water just like K-21 and BMP3??

We dont know yet about the engine of our medium tank, I hope it is powerful enough as engine space is quite large. A slow tank is an easy target in city, fast tank on the other hand can hide into a building much faster in that kind of environment.

And in term of converting it into amphibious version is rather a business insight, trying to broaden the market of the tank. This thinking should be automatically inside Pindad management mind already, considering that our marine is one of the biggest marine in the world and our geographical landscape looks like (archipelago with so many rivers in each island).

 

[Bhayangkara]

Does pindad medium tank can act as heavy ifv like merkava? I observe the engine placement is in the front, that mean there significant space in it's belly and rear.

Yah, if we look from the design that engine compartement is in front, but I don't see the entry access for personnel in the rear side,, or maybe I was wrong..

 

[Bennedict]

Hi guys, is there any news about Marine Corps getting more tanks and multiple rocket launchers? I heard we order BMD-4's.

This old news, about year ago :
TNI AL Tambah 54 Tank Terbaru dan Roket Multilaras pada 2015


By Dian Kurniawan
on on 17 Nov 2014 at 16:18 WIB

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Liputan6, Jakarta - Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana TNI Marsetio berencana memodernisasi alat utama sistem pertahanan (alutsista) di tubuh marinir. Rencana ini untuk memenuhi Minimum Essential Force (MEF) korps marinir.

Menurut KSAL Laksamana TNI Marsetio, alutsista tersebut juga untuk menjaga kedaulatan dan keutuhan Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia.

"Tahun depan akan ada penambahan 54 tank terbaru serta roket multilaras," kata Marsetio saat perayaan HUT marinir ke-69 di Lapangan Tembak Bumi Marinir, Karangpilang, Surabaya, Senin (17/11/14).

Dalam peringatan HUT marinir ini, ditampilkan beberapa atraksi keterampilan prajurit. Antara lain tarian kolosal prajurit dan tarian nusantara dengan diiringi rampak bedug yang dipersembahkan jalasenastri marinir wilayah timur.

Menurut Marsetio, tarian kolosal tersebut mencerminkan bagaimana TNI AL mengangkat budaya maritim Bangsa Indonesia.

"Gambaran dari tarian kolosal tersebut sejalan dengan visi pemerintah yang ingin menjadikan Indonesia sebagai negara maritim terbesar dunia dan menjadi poros maritim dunia," tandas Mersetio.

Selain menampilkan tarian kolosal, peringatan HUT marinir ini juga menampilkan atraksi serangan kilat gabungan infanteri dan kesenjataan marinir, dancing tank, free fall 12 prajurit pasukan khusus yang melaksanakan kerjasama udara Canopy Relative Work (CRW) dan flag jump dengan membawa bendera-bendera satuan, bendera merah putih, bendera Mabes TNI, Mabesal, serta marinir. (Sun/Mut)
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I almost never hear any news about BMD-4 ordered and to delivered so soon. Source from Wiki

Russia

• Russian airborne troops – 60 vehicles were in service during 2012. In 2013, 10 BMD-4M vehicles were ordered for 608 million rubles, with the VDV planning to receive 1,000 BMD-4Ms by 2020.

The first production batch of the new armored vehicles BMD-4M and BTR-MDM "Rakushka" in the amount of 24 units (12 each) transferred to the Russian Airborne Troops on March 3, 2015. The Russian Defense Ministry is to receive more than 250 airborne troops’ combat vehicles BMD-4M and armored personnel carriers BTR-MDM Rakushka over three years under a contract.

Potential operators

Indonesia

• Indonesian Navy – 54 BMD-4s on order with delivery due to commence gradually in 2015.

 

[Bhayangkara]

Hi guys, is there any news about Marine Corps getting more tanks and multiple rocket launchers? I heard we order BMD-4's.

This old news, about year ago :
TNI AL Tambah 54 Tank Terbaru dan Roket Multilaras pada 2015

Liputan6, Jakarta - Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana TNI Marsetio berencana memodernisasi alat utama sistem pertahanan (alutsista) di tubuh marinir..
"Tahun depan akan ada penambahan 54 tank terbaru serta roket multilaras," kata Marsetio
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I almost never hear any news about BMD-4 ordered and to delivered so soon. Source from Wiki

Russia

• Russian airborne troops – 60 vehicles were in service during 2012. In 2013, 10 BMD-4M vehicles were ordered for 608 million rubles, with the VDV planning to receive 1,000 BMD-4Ms by 2020.
  
  Potential operators
  
  
  Indonesia
  • Indonesian Navy – 54 BMD-4s on order with delivery due to commence gradually in 2015.

I don't sure about those BMD-4 will serve in our marines, since the BMD-4's roles is for airborne troops.. But I believe that news above is about additional order of BMP-3F which currently have serve in our marine corps. Or maybe some our friends here can give more accurate information regarding this.. [/list]

 

[katarabhumi]

Additional BMP-3F for the marines if my memory is right.

 

[Bennedict]

Pindad SPG-3 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher. A licensed version of CIS 40 AGL Singapore. Mounted on tripods or any armoured vehicles.

Credit to original uploader

SPG-3 can be seen mounted on Anoa APC.

 

[faries]

Arms modernization and military transformation in Indonesia

Iis Gindarsah, Jakarta | Opinion | Fri, July 10 2015, 6:29 AM

The recent crash of an Air Force C-130B airlifter was the latest in a long line of fatal accidents involving the country’s military hardware. Between 2006 and 2015, there were a total of 18 accidents or an average of two incidents per year. These have caused huge material losses and most importantly, claimed the lives of well-trained military personnel.

This awful situation is dangerous to Indonesia’s security and stability. If the trend continues, it is likely to further degrade troops’ morale and weaken the military’s deterrence effect in key flashpoints and border areas — particularly in the Ambalat and Natuna seas.

Based on the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) database per December 2014, the Indonesian Military (TNI) operates a total of 160 variants of weapons systems consisting of 64 land systems, 56 naval weapon systems and 40 types of military aircraft. There are, at least, two major issues relating to the current development of the TNI’s arsenal.

First, a close examination of their service records shows that overall 52 percent of TNI equipment has been operated for over three decades. While only 38 percent of the Air Force’s arsenal is over 30 years old, the Navy and Army, with respectively 59 and 54 percent, are at the top ranks in aging arsenals. Indonesia’s Marine Corps, for instance, still relies on a fleet of outdated PT-76 tanks for amphibious operations.

However, the fact that most of the existing armaments are aging does not instantly disqualify their use in future military operations. There are many operational factors that can affect the serviceability of weapons systems, including routine maintenance and overhaul, as well as the availability of spare parts and local infrastructure.

Another crucial factor is the relevance of the existing weapons technologies with the military’s operational requirements. In theory, the deployment of military units depends on the nature of threat, terrain and weather conditions, as well as mission objective. According to Indonesia’s recent defense guidelines, the prospect of high-intensity conflict remains low in Southeast Asia in the near term. With that assessment and due to limited funding for new procurement, the TNI seeks to refurbish and upgrade the existing military systems it considers relevant for future operations, such as modified AMX-13 tanks, Ahmad Yani-class frigates and C-130H transport planes.

Second, a study on recent defense procurements highlights the slow pace of Indonesia’s military modernization. In the last 15 years, despite the acquisition of larger sealift vessels, the Navy could only procure seven ocean-going warships. Despite its ambition to operate up to 10 jetfighter squadrons, the Air Force had to take a long process to complete its Su-27/30 fleet and replace aging F-5 aircraft.

This modest progress is still inadequate to ensure Indonesia’s sovereignty over its vast archipelagic territory. As with the practice in many countries, the Defense Ministry adopts “threat-based” and “capability-based” defense planning. It has comprehensively outlined key military capabilities to anticipate and tackle a spectrum of actual and potential threats at perceived flashpoints.

Nevertheless, funding is the major obstacle slowing the pace of arms modernization in the TNI. All the time, Indonesian policymakers struggle to weigh a proper balance between “guns versus butter” in defense budgeting. Very often, the country’s defense planners have to adjust the existing procurement plans according to available financial resources.

Moreover, given the budget constraint, Indonesia has been relying on foreign loans for major defense procurements. Between 2009 and 2014, about 33 percent of the country’s arms imports were funded under the export credit agreement provided by the Russian government. While necessary, the funding mechanism as such entails complex bureaucratic red tape. This often prolongs the process of arms procurement and delivery, as well as complicating any negotiations regarding the transfer of technology to indigenous strategic industries.

Over the past 10 years, the Indonesian government has also tended to overvalue the “million friends, zero enemy” doctrine. This mindset further complicates strategic policymaking as the decisions on defense procurement have to take into account the impact of new weapons systems on arms dynamics and regional stability in Southeast Asia. In theory, the acquisition of any new arms is potentially disruptive to the balance of military power in the region. However, identifying the difference between defensive and offensive arsenals is increasingly difficult practice today.

With the increasing problems in the country’s maritime domain, both Indonesian policymakers and House of Representatives members have no option but modernize the military’s weapon systems. President Joko Widodo’s maritime aspiration is a powerful political commitment to accelerate that effort. Raising Indonesia’s defense budget up to 1.5 percent of GDP is essential to cover the costs of the TNI’s arms maintenance and procurement programs.

Equally important is the “mindset revolution” (revolusi mental) in Indonesia’s defense planning. During his interview at the House of Representatives last week, TNI chief candidate Gen. Gatot Nurmantyo specifically underlined that the increasingly complex strategic environment requires the development of capable air and naval power. This is certainly a remarkable statement for an army officer, suggesting greater internal cohesion and aspiration for interoperability among the armed services.

Civilian leadership must also undertake similar mindset change. Rather than perceiving it as routine spending, both executive and legislative officials must ponder weapons procurement as a long-term investment to safeguard the country’s huge economic interests and overall development. This way, military transformation will eventually take place in Indonesia.
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The writer is defense expert at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Jakarta.

 

[MarveL]

Arms modernization and military transformation in Indonesia

The writer is defense expert at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Jakarta.

source nya kelupaan mas bra... Arms modernization and military transformation in Indonesia | The Jakarta Post

Sea Platforms
Indonesian Navy details capabilities of new OSV
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
08 July 2015

The Indonesian Navy's first new oceanographic offshore support vessel (OSV), KRI (933). Source: Office of Communications, Indonesian Navy

Key Points

• The Indonesian Navy has revealed systems details for its new survey ship programme
• Indonesia is procuring two 60 m OSVs from French shipbuilder OCEA SA, under a USD100 million October 2013 contract

The Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) has provided further details of the survey capabilities of its first new oceanographic offshore support vessel (OSV), KRI Rigel (933).

The details were released in the July 2015 edition of a quarterly staff newsletter published by the TNI-AL's communications office, Cakrawala .

The capabilities will include an autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV) and a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) able to collect samples from the ocean floor.

Rigel is the first of two 60 m OSVs ordered from French shipbuilder OCEA SA under a USD100 million contract signed in October 2013.

The OSVs are powered by two MTU 8V 4000 M53 engines driving two fixed-pitch propellers. The vessels have a top speed of 14 kt and a standard range of 4,400 n miles at 12 kt, and can operate in up to Sea State Six. They can accommodate a crew of 30 and 16 mission personnel at sea for 20 days. The OSVs carry one Rheinmetall 20 mm main gun and two stern-facing 12.7 mm machine guns.

Survey equipment includes Kongsberg's EA 600 single-beam echo sounder, and the company's EM 2040 and EM 302 multibeam systems. The survey suite enables detection of underwater objects and keel clearance (among other hydrographic functions) at the TNI-AL's naval bases.

The vessel is also equipped with Kongsberg GeoAcoustics' Sonar 2094 side-scan sonar system for underwater mapping.

The AUV capability is provided by Kongsberg Maritime's Hugin 1000, which is capable of performing high-speed survey missions at depths of up to 1,000 m. Rigel is equipped with one Ocean Modules' V8 ROV, which is fitted with a manipulator arm that can collect underwater samples for analysis.

IHS Jane's understands that Rigel is currently based with the TNI-AL's Military Sealift Command (KOLINLAMIL) in Tanjung Priok, North Jakarta.. The vessel is scheduled to be joined by sister ship KRI Spica (934) in September 2015.

Indonesian Navy details capabilities of new OSV - IHS Jane's 360

 

[faries]

source nya kelupaan mas bra...

I'm sorry for forgetting it's source, just in hurry prepare something for my boss this morning

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indonesian Air Force plans to replace C-130 Hercules
Posted by Maki Catama on 8:05 PM


The Boeing C-17 Globemaster III (left), the Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules (middle), and the Airbus Military A400M Atlas (right).

JAKARTA --- Indonesian Air Force Chief of Staff, Air Marshal Agus Supriatna, revealed that he has conducted a study to replace Hercules aircraft with new transport aircraft.

"We have conducted a study to replace C-130 Hercules aircraft with the new ones either from France, the United States, or Russia, but the replacement depends on the government," Supriatna stated at the Cilangkap Air Force Headquarters in East Jakarta on Tuesday.

According to Supriatna, the result of the study has been submitted to the Ministry of Defense to arrive at a decision on whether to replace the Hercules aircraft with the new transport aircraft.

"Our 2015-2019 strategic plan is to replace the F5 jet fighters and to procure heavy transport aircraft, heavy transport helicopters, and large transport helicopters," he affirmed.

When contacted separately, Defense Ministry's Head of Public Communication Brigadier General Jundan Eko Bintoro justified the plan to replace the Hercules aircraft with either Airbus A400M from France or Boeing C-17 from the United States, as the two types of transport aircraft have large capacity.

"The Airbus A400M and Boeing C-17 Globemaster are larger and newer, and the procurement is expected to be made during the period between 2016 and 2018," Jundan added.

Indonesian Air Force plans to replace C-130 Hercules ~ ASEAN Military Defense Review