Indonesia Defence Forum

[Raduga]

First ever vaccine listed under WHO emergency use

First ever vaccine listed under WHO emergency use

www.who.int

WHO today listed the nOPV2 vaccine (Bio Farma, Indonesia) for emergency use to address the rising cases of a vaccine-derived polio strain in a number of African and East Mediterranean countries. Countries in WHO’s Western Pacific and South-East Asia regions are also affected by these outbreaks. The emergency use listing, or EUL, is the first of its kind for a vaccine and paves the way for potential listing of COVID-19 vaccines.

The world has made incredible progress toward polio eradication, reducing polio cases by 99.9% in the last 30 years. But the last steps to ending this disease are proving the most difficult, particularly with continuing outbreaks of circulating vaccine-derived polio viruses (cVDPVs).

cVDPVs are rare and occur if the weakened strain of the poliovirus contained in the oral polio vaccine (OPV) circulates among under-immunized populations for a long time. If not enough children are immunized against polio, the weakened virus can pass between individuals and over time genetically revert to a form that can cause paralysis. Type 2 cVDPVs are currently the most prevalent form of the vaccine-derived virus.

The EUL procedure and how it could help to speed up access to a future COVID-19 vaccine

The EUL procedure assesses the suitability of yet to be licensed health products during public health emergencies, such as polio and COVID. The objective is to make these medicines, vaccines and diagnostics available faster to address the emergency. The assessment essentially weighs the threat posed by the emergency against the benefit that would accrue from the use of the product based on a robust body of evidence.

The procedure was introduced during the West Africa Ebola outbreak of 2014-2016, when multiple Ebola diagnostics received emergency use listing; since then, numerous COVID-19 diagnostics have also been listed. The nOPV2 is the first such listing for a vaccine.

those are Polio vaccine though ........ the only thing benefit for covid-19 is the EUL Procedure

 

[ardezzo]

I hate to but in but, I feel that had to utter my mind about this part quoted here

• Municipal gov't have different method of reporting COVID-19 death. Some municipal will report anyone pass away while having COVID-19 as COVID-19 casualty regardless the actual cause of death, For example someone who were killed in road / traffic accident or fallen of the cliff while having COVID-19 will be count as COVID-19 casualty.

While it's true about the 'traffic accident' part, but this is a small case. Most cases that happened are when a suspect (still waiting for PCR test result) died, they were registered as non- Covid death and some municipal doesn't even bothered to continue the test, thus lowered the actual number.

Indonesia also have very low number of test, some municipal also bother to trace the positive case, they only test the people who admitted to the hospital ER with C19 symptoms. Of course by doing this, the case number is low but the death rate is high.

 

[Jatosint]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1327965335488610309

 

[Raduga]

Finally they release the picture of NASAMS 2's launcher

https://twitter.com/x/status/1327773356368662529

previously multiple post regarding this has been taken down and gone/deleted from some of the FB based formil page, looks like denkarung already on the move lmao

 

[Gundala]

Salam to every brother and sister from Indonesia. How are you all ??? And How is Indonesia ? Also what is the situation of COVID 19 in Indonesia and what is latest in defence matters of Indonesia.

@Indos @Gundala @Soman45 @umigami and everyone else

Salam brother, personally Im good and thank you for asking. Well like the rest of the world we are fighting with Covid and dealing with economic slow down. As for defence matters Im sure others already updated you.

I hope you, people in Pakistan can survive this Covid and economy slow down as well. .

 

[trishna_amṛta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1327965335488610309

previously multiple post regarding this has been taken down and gone/deleted from some of the FB based formil page, looks like denkarung already on the move lmao

I've noticed the key statement in the video is "Jangan biarkan persatuan dan kesatuan bangsa itu hilang atau dikaburkan oleh provokasi dan ambisi yang dibungkus dengan berbagai identitas". The rest of it was making ultimatum.

I believe I already know some key players in the "berbagai identitas" part. I'm pretty sure most of you also do while few of you may even be part of the "berbagai identitas"

 

[Raduga]

I've noticed the key statement in the video is "Jangan biarkan persatuan dan kesatuan bangsa itu hilang atau dikaburkan oleh provokasi dan ambisi yang dibungkus dengan berbagai identitas". The rest of it was making ultimatum.

I believe I already know some key players in the "berbagai identitas" part. I'm pretty sure most of you also do while few of you may even be part of the "berbagai identitas"

that's pretty much human nature to grouped with someone with same interest , this berbagai identitas literally cannot be avoided .

 

[Gundala]

I've noticed the key statement in the video is "Jangan biarkan persatuan dan kesatuan bangsa itu hilang atau dikaburkan oleh provokasi dan ambisi yang dibungkus dengan berbagai identitas". The rest of it was making ultimatum.

I believe I already know some key players in the "berbagai identitas" part. I'm pretty sure most of you also do while few of you may even be part of the "berbagai identitas"

Bukan apa yg terlihat, tp lebih ke kenapa itu semua bsa didorong utk terlihat. Statement dr Panglima mnurut sy ckup serius. Yg perlu dijewer sbenernya itu elite politik yg kadang sak karepe dewe. 2019 yo jelas pilpres, nek saiki ga jelas blas, niate wis ra apik mergo ra eling rakyat kabeh was was covid. Jaluk momentum ekonomi elek? hadehhh......

 

[umigami]

Eurofighter-Verfahren endgültig eingestellt

November 13/20: Fraud Investigation Done For Good Austrian prosecutors upheld a decision to end a criminal probe

into alleged fraud by aviation and defense group Airbus and Eurofighter in connection with a 2 billion-dollar (€1.7 billion) fighter jet purchase in 2003, the counsel for Austria said Wednesday evening. A criminal complaint brought by Austria’s Defense Ministry in 2017 prompted the investigation. A lower court ordered an end to the investigation in April, which the Vienna appeals court upheld on the grounds that Austria had not provided enough of its own evidence, the office of Austria’s chief legal counsel Wolfgang Peschorn said in a statement on Wednesday evening. “With that, all criminal investigations in Austria that were initiated as a result of the criminal complaint in 2017 on suspicion of fraud in connection with the Eurofighter purchase have now been brought to an end,” Peschorn’s office said of the appeals court ruling dated November 4 and transmitted a week later.

Will this have any effect to Prabowo-Tanner plan?

 

[NEKONEKO]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1327965335488610309

Ikan kakap dari (politisi, public figur, ormas, atau eks militer?) yang caper dan bikin masalah?

 

[Nike]

Eurofighter-Verfahren endgültig eingestellt

November 13/20: Fraud Investigation Done For Good Austrian prosecutors upheld a decision to end a criminal probe

into alleged fraud by aviation and defense group Airbus and Eurofighter in connection with a 2 billion-dollar (€1.7 billion) fighter jet purchase in 2003, the counsel for Austria said Wednesday evening. A criminal complaint brought by Austria’s Defense Ministry in 2017 prompted the investigation. A lower court ordered an end to the investigation in April, which the Vienna appeals court upheld on the grounds that Austria had not provided enough of its own evidence, the office of Austria’s chief legal counsel Wolfgang Peschorn said in a statement on Wednesday evening. “With that, all criminal investigations in Austria that were initiated as a result of the criminal complaint in 2017 on suspicion of fraud in connection with the Eurofighter purchase have now been brought to an end,” Peschorn’s office said of the appeals court ruling dated November 4 and transmitted a week later.

Will this have any effect to Prabowo-Tanner plan?

If anything they don't have any legal issue anymore

 

[umigami]

This is another interesting stuff regarding EF Typhoon. This is about maintenance cost per flight hour.

As we know maintenance cost is one of the most expensive part of CPFH.

This data is for RAF operated Typhoon. They presented the data based on the whole fleet (not per aircraft) for 2 financial years 2014/2015 and 2015/2016. As of 1 April 2016 RAF operated 132 Typhoons.

The 1st data is the total flight hours, the next is the total maintenance cost. As you can see the maintenance cost (done by contractors) includes upgrade to airframe, maintenance to ensure the availability of the fleets, parts, and labour costs.

View attachment 688157

From the data above we got maintenance cost per hour for Typhoon which is £5459 for 2014/2015 and £4636 for 2015/2016. Using current rate it's about $7204 and $6117.

This is right before RAF started the project with BAE Systems and Leonardo to reduce the maintenance cost so the Typhoon operating cost would be similar to F-16 (I shared here : https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indonesia-defence-forum.229571/post-12802097)

I would't be surprised if that 15% decrease in those 2 financial years was in part due to this project that's started in 2016.

source :

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/576244/20161122-Flying_hours_and_maintenance_costs_for_the_Typhoon_and_Tornado_fleets.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/550258/UK_Armed_Forces_Equipment_and_Formations_2016.pdf

Just forget it dude, the acquisition budget is just astronomical. Just compare these:

Airbus Raih Kontrak US$6,36 Miliar Dari Jerman Untuk 38 Unit Eurofighter “Quadriga” Typhoon

Boeing Awarded $1.5B Contract for 28 Kuwait Super Hornets

And we're talking about german here, one of eurofighter consortium, and long time user where their Typhoon's infrastructure already in place and isn't a problem anymore.

Their price difference are too significant.
With Shornet you got more mature tech, maritime strike capabilities, and possibly for growler conversion.
Aside from austrian second hand, ga usah banyak berharap lah...

 

[toke115]

 

[Raduga]

LAH.......... blunder lagi ?? intervensi jepang ??
KSAL Bantah TNI AL Incar Kapal Iver Huitfeldt
Senin 16 Nov 2020 13:07 WIB
Red: Erik Purnama Putra

Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana Yudo Margono bersama Komandan Korps Marinir (Dankormar) Mayjen (Mar) Suhartono di Mako Marinir Kwitang, Jakpus, Senin (16/11).
Foto: Penerangan Marinir
Menurut KSAL, Korps Marinir TNI AL selalu hadir untuk NKRI!
REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, JAKARTA -- Peringatan Hari Ulang Tahun (HUT) ke-75 Marinir juga menjadi momentum untuk meremajakan alat utama sistem senjata (alutsista). Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana Yudo Margono, mengatakan, modernisasi alutsista menjadi salah satu perhatiannya ketika menjadi orang nomor satu di TNI AL.

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Menurut Yudo, salah satu kendaraan yang mendesak untuk diremajakan adalah tank Marinir dan beberapa jenis kapal perang RI (KRI), yang usianya sudah sangat tua.

"Tank amfibi, alut utama, dan KRI kita ajukan ke Kemhan. Modernisasi alutsista dan peralatan merupakan kewenangan Kemhan," kata Yudo usai menghadiri perayaan HUT ke-75 Marinir di Markas Korps Marinir Kwitang, Jakarta Pusat, Senin (16/11). Hadir pula dalam peringatan HUT tersebut, yaitu Gubernur Daerah Istimewa Yogyakarta Sri Sultan Hamengkubuwono X.

Yudo berbicara kepada wartawan didampingi Komandan Korps Marinir (Dankormar) Mayjen (Mar) Suhartono dan Wakil Dankormar Brigjen (Mar) Nur Alamsyah. Menurut Yudo, semua kebutuhan alutsista TNI AL sudah dikaji dan diserahkan kepada Kementerian Pertahanan (Kemenhan).

Disinggung tentang kabar TNI AL mengincar, dan bahkan tertarik untuk membeli kapal Iver Huitfeldt, Yudo membantahnya. Hingga kini, Markas Besar AL (Mabesal) belum pernah mengajukan pembelian KRI jenis itu kepada Kemenhan.

Dia menjelaskan, setiap spesifikasi alutsista yang diinginkan TNI AL semuanya diserahkan ke Kemenhan untuk diproses atau dibeli. "Belum (diajukan)," kata Yudo singkat.

Kapal buatan Denmark sepanjang 138,7 meter dan lebar 19,8 meter tersebut termasuk jenis kelas berat, yang belum dipunyai TNI AL. Kapal korvet yang dimiliki TNI AL sekarang yang paling modern adalah KRI Bung Tomo, John Lie, dan Usman-Harun, yang masing-masing memiliki panjang 89,9 meter.

Dalam pidatonya ketika menjadi inspektur upacara, Yudo mengatakan, keberadaan Marinir sangat dicintai dan disukai masyarakat. Untuk itu, ia berpesan agar prajurit Marinir tetap profesional dan humas dalam menjalankan tugas operasi militer (OMP) dan operasi militer selain perang (OMSP).

Mantan Panglima Kogabwilhan I itu menyinggung, selaras dengan karakter kekuatan TNI AL dalam doktrin Jalesvea Jayamahe, hakikat keberadaan Korps Marinir sebagai pasukan pendarat menuntut kecepatan respon, daya gerak, dan daay gempur yang tinggi dalam melaksanakan tugas-tugas, baik selam masa damai, krisis, dan masa perang.

"Korps Marinir TNI AL selalu hadir untuk NKRI, di saat kedaulatan negara ini terancam, Marinir hadir. Saat situasi tak terkendali, Marinir hadir menengahi. Jadi wajar saja apabila di benak rakyat pimpinan bangsa ini apabila negara ini dalam ancaman, satu jawabannya, kerahkan Marinir!" ucap Yudo.


Dalam acara itu, Korps Marinir juga menerima kado indah berupa Gending “Gati Marinir” dari Gubernur DIY Sri Sultan Hamengkubuwono X. Gending tersebut diserahkan langsung Sri Sultan kepada Dankormar Mayjen Marinir Suhartono pada acara Syukuran peringatan HUT ke-75 Korps Marinir yang digelar di Graha Marinir, Jalan Prajurit KKO Usman dan Harun, Kwitang, Senim.

Gati Marinir adalah gending yang mempunyai laras pelog dan pathet barang, dengan jenis kendhangan ladrang sabrangan. Kata Marinir mengacu pada keberadaan tentara yang berhubungan dengan samudra/air. Gending tersebut dalam satu ulihan terdiri empat gongan, yaitu dua gongan pada bagian umpak dan dua gongan pada bagian ngelik.

Sebenarnya kalimat lagu dalam gending tersebut hanya ada dua macam setiap satu ulihan. Namun, setiap satu gongan pada bagian umpak dan ngelik diulang sebanyak dua kali. Setelah permainan sampai pada bagian paling akhir, kemudian diulang mulai dari bagian awal lagi. Demikian dimainkan secara berulang-ulang sesuai kebutuhan.

Sri Sultan berkesempatan hadir dalam acara syukuran peringatan HUT ke-75 Kormar usai pelaksanaan upacara militer, dengan inspektur upacara KSAL dan Komandan Upacara Kolonel (Mar) Danuri, yang sehari-hari menjabat Asisten Operasi Pasmar 1 Jakarta.

https://republika.co.id/berita/qjvl08484/ksal-bantah-tni-al-incar-kapal-iver-huitfeldt

 

[¿Por qué?]

Just forget it dude, the acquisition budget is just astronomical. Just compare these:

Airbus Raih Kontrak US$6,36 Miliar Dari Jerman Untuk 38 Unit Eurofighter “Quadriga” Typhoon

Boeing Awarded $1.5B Contract for 28 Kuwait Super Hornets

And we're talking about german here, one of eurofighter consortium, and long time user where their Typhoon's infrastructure already in place and isn't a problem anymore.

Their price difference are too significant.
With Shornet you got more mature tech, maritime strike capabilities, and possibly for growler conversion.
Aside from austrian second hand, ga usah banyak berharap lah...

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

First of all, why do you use deals for brand NEW jets of Typhoon T3B/4 and Shornet, to compare to our potential deal of USED Austrian Typhoon T1?

Second of all, that project to reduce operating cost is for all RAF's Typhoons including T1 (they still operate maybe 50 or something until now). The project is not for brand new Typhoon only. So if MoD eventually choose to buy this USED Austrian T1, maybe we can somehow ask Airbus/RAF/TyTAN if they can share their method so we can copy the way they do it for our own Typhoon T1.

Last but not least, I said it already more than couple months ago. There'll be more than 60 USED Typhoons T1 for sale soon. I could be wrong on the number, but the point is that if we decided to buy and somehow successfully manage to operate this Austrian T1 (never mind with the lower operating cost), there'll be more USED T1 jets (more upgraded version) available if we intend to expand the fleet cheaply.

So nobody's talking about buying Typhoon T3B/4 here man. At least not yet. Or perhaps you read somewhere that's actually what MoD wants? Pls share it here.