Indonesia Defence Forum

[Ravager]

Obviously, Kopassus

Sat 81 to be precise

 

[Nike]

Baltskin helmet, Samar camo uniform, HK416, i can't identify the watch and optical sights (seems different from person to person)

 

[Being-Art]

Baltskin helmet, Samar camo uniform, HK416, i can't identify the watch and optical sights (seems different from person to person)

That's S.A.M.A.R Komando, camo for Kopassus. While S.A.M.A.R Kartika Variants developed for regular infantry ones

 

[Nike]

It would be better for the rifles and helmet using camo pattern too

 

[deadlast]

Thanks for the correction!

For the ESM, I'm actually confused since several websites, including TNI's website, said that the ship was equipped with DR3000 ESM and didn't mention Vigile 100 ESM at all. But I think you're right, by how it looks it's more similar to Vigile 100 ESM

Btw, do you have a twitter account? Want to give you the credit once I uploaded the updated version of the infographic

KAPAL PERANG CANGGIH ITU, AKHIRNYA MERAPAT DI PANGKALAN KOARMATIM | WEBSITE TENTARA NASIONAL INDONESIA

ARMATIM (5/9) - Kehadiran kapal perang yang canggih dan modern ini merupakan kebanggaan bangsa Indonesia, karena kapal ini merupakan generasi yang terbaru dan mempunyai kemampuan yang jauh lebih maju ...

www.tni.mil.id

The ESM looks like part of FFBNW features at the time, they are commissioned by the navy with no ESM attached. The original plan maybe to fit them with DR3000S ESM but, by the looks of it they choose the Vigile 100 ESM in the end.

From Jane's Fighting Ship 2015-2016.

And for twitter, nope. Mine died (deleted) several years ago, if you really need to credit me then just use my nick here.

 

[Lasa-X]

This can be developed into poorman light MLRS, made the launcher had 8-12 tubes and use something light platform like Maung or Hilux truck and embedded them into Battalion or brigade level fire support units.

Well, there was NDL-40 light MLRS made by IPTN. I don't know if it managed to go into operational or not. Shown first time in IAS 96, if my memory serve me well.

 

[Chestnut]

Baltskin helmet, Samar camo uniform, HK416, i can't identify the watch and optical sights (seems different from person to person)

EOTech 552 on the left, Aimpoint CompM2 on the right.

Also, the plate carrier of the guy on the left is hanging too low. It's not going to protect his vitals.

 

[umigami]

Baltskin helmet, Samar camo uniform, HK416, i can't identify the watch and optical sights (seems different from person to person)

SF can personally pick whatever equipment they want (asalkan tersedia), I think...

 

[Nike]

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There is lot of difference between Indonesia side of Papua and Papua New Guinea, our side is much better at security, education and health care services, government precence being felt into the deep of jungle and mountain peaks. Hope we can developing more and giving more heartfelt care toward our brother

 

[Fl0gger]

This can be developed into poorman light MLRS, made the launcher had 8-12 tubes and use something light platform like Maung or Hilux truck and embedded them into Battalion or brigade level fire support units.

Dulu ada NDL-40

 

[Logam42]

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Kinda idiot to me, why put civillian at the front line

At least Ifan is trying to build institutional capacity. Instead of asking for TNI/Polri escort for the inspector, they want to train up the inspector to be able to act independently.

Really ambitious sure, but better than the usual begging for TNI assistance.

Naah , this low tech thing was ment for a battalion comander and staff's operational ride . It had to be done and done it cheaply and in house . Soo much money wasted on foreign products that was within our mean of manufacturing prowess . Sooner or later that freebies activities going to be over and dealt with . And to be honest even the marines find it hard to justifying their penchant for 8x8 eastern product since pandur landed in the Pindad portofolios . Not to mention the Checzh excalibur next year planning to build and open their factories in indonesia . If they also came with the Tatra's support packages then we got all wheeled AFV covered allready to be honest . Time to move on the tracked platform and implement all of those plans ...

And god i can't wait to see those indian's subpar products get to the limelight and blow out in their faces like the Indoc####s shenanigan's do .

Is that Checzh factory going to actually happen? I feel its been a pipedream for years.

 

[Ravager]

Is that Checzh factory going to actually happen? I feel its been a pipedream for years.

Based from i heard they allready have a green light from opung and allready start to surveying for a location . To be honest that doesn't tick me much . It was given . As a minor and late player sooner or later they do have to walk in if they still want to taste a slice of indonesia defense's pie budgets . They've allready paving the way . But they understand they have to sacrifice something in the process . Nevertheless , they allready have a capital for the effort . The Chezch had a very stellar reps in our military circles . But , i was more concerned of about their promise of Tatra commitment here ... Their promised to sweetening the deal was for opening a JV on heavy military vehicles manufacturing lines with the local establishment as a bundling package .
I don't know about you guys . But , i find that's very compelling . On how they'll do it . Even i still confused by it

Then again , it's Indonesia ...
We are allready used to the creed of " Seeing is believing "

 

[Indos]

At least Ifan is trying to build institutional capacity. Instead of asking for TNI/Polri escort for the inspector, they want to train up the inspector to be able to act independently.

Really ambitious sure, but better than the usual begging for TNI assistance.




Is that Checzh factory going to actually happen? I feel its been a pipedream for years.

Some civil servant do have guns like BPK (Badan Pemeriksa Keuangan) officers.

 

[Logam42]

Some civil servant do have guns like BPK (Badan Pemeriksa Keuangan) officers.

Do they get training by kopassus tho?

I genuinely lol'ed when I read that part

 

[Logam42]

Based from i heard they allready have a green light from opung and allready start to surveying for a location . To be honest that doesn't tick me much . It was given . As a minor and late player sooner or later they do have to walk in if they still want to taste a slice of indonesia defense's pie budgets . They've allready paving the way . But they understand they have to sacrifice something in the process . Nevertheless , they allready have a capital for the effort . The Chezch had a very stellar reps in our military circles . But , i was more concerned of about their promise of Tatra commitment here ... Their promised to sweetening the deal was for opening a JV on heavy military vehicles manufacturing lines with the local establishment as a bundling package .
I don't know about you guys . But , i find that's very compelling . On how they'll do it . Even i still confused by it

Then again , it's Indonesia ...
We are allready used to the creed of " Seeing is believing "

Sorry, doublepost. Its really late in the night over here.

Just wanted to ask a general question. All in all, is Indonesia's defense budget worth that much sacrifice to enter our market? I thought our defense spending has always been really low. And do you think that they still have capital during covid?

I was really improssed by the CHezch offering as well when I first read about it, its just that I read that in 2017/2018 and its been quite a while with nothing happening. :/