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[Kansel]

For EWA, if we looking at the speed and range then 737 has more chance. But then again we often discounted the spec in favor of more affordable one due to the model of our purchased is mainly on budget first and tech spec second.

IMO there's no such things for every alutsista we purchased "kopongan" thanks to counter trade law on every alutsista purchase (likely) and looking at current purchase like su 35 and nasams and proposed viper all of em in full arm condition but lets just wait and see.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1183871871344758786

Hmm if this true cant be more better, least but not last in the string of announcement which will followed as the Financial deadline for this MEF 2 rapidly approaching

This one?

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Or this?

There's a space to place missile in the front of the cannon prob this one

 

[NEKONEKO]

should be ASW corvette too for parchim not OPV , but i think this actually could be useful to replace our FPB fleet , let me guess , three domestic shipyard , PT.Citra Shipyard , Palindo Marine , and PAL obviously .

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so technically , it is not foreign loan ???

I think it will have sonar and torpedo, but who know not much information so far.
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Any way, this OPV should have long endurance.

 

[GraveDigger388]

IMO there's no such things for every alutsista we purchased "kopongan" thanks to counter trade law on every alutsista purchase (likely) and looking at current purchase like su 35 and nasams and proposed viper all of em in full arm condition but lets just wait and see.


This one?

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Or this?
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There's a space to place missile in the front of the cannon prob this one

Damn, what beauties..

 

[zargonmuntanu]

IMO there's no such things for every alutsista we purchased "kopongan" thanks to counter trade law on every alutsista purchase (likely) and looking at current purchase like su 35 and nasams and proposed viper all of em in full arm condition but lets just wait and see.


This one?

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Or this?
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There's a space to place missile in the front of the cannon prob this one

hmm integrated mast for opv?
for a ship like opv isn't it too overkill?

 

[Gundala]

so technically , it is not foreign loan ???

"an offshore branch of Indonesian state owned bank". Loan might come from it, but who knows where the money coming from. Might be from various sources.

IMO there's no such things for every alutsista we purchased "kopongan" thanks to counter trade law on every alutsista purchase (likely) and looking at current purchase like su 35 and nasams and proposed viper all of em in full arm condition but lets just wait and see

Geezz man, I mean for the base. Tho faster and longer distance is needed they might choose the less expensive one such as CN235 with ELTA for example. Thats what Im trying to say.

 

[Nike]

Jeff Prananda got a lot of good shot, man he is into his jobs Seriously

 

[Nike]

STPI curug, Jeff Prananda

In Indonesia every school aviation is part of komcad (komponen cadangan) in which can be mobilized anytime in time of state emergency

 

[Nike]

Personel Denpal 1 Kostrad Ikuti Pelatihan Mechanical Maintenance For Instructors MLRS Astros
16 October, 2019

(Penkostrad. Rabu, 16 Oktober 2019). Personel Denpal 1 Kostrad mengikuti kegiatan pelatihan Mechanical Maintenance For Instructors MLRS Astros yang di selenggarakan oleh Pusat Persenjataan Artileri Medan dan dilaksanakan di Batalyon Armed 1 Kostrad dalam rangka meningkatkan keahlian dalam mengoperasionalkan senjata canggih rudal Astros serta memantapkan kesiapan untuk menyongsong program latihan yang akan datang, Malang, Selasa (15/10/2019).

Dikatakan Wadanpussenarmed, selama berlangsungnya pelatihan tersebut, para peserta diwajibkan untuk bersungguh-sungguh selama menerima materi latihan. Pasalnya, materi-materi latihan tersebut, nantinya sangat berguna bagi para peserta ketika kembali ke satuannya masing-masing.

Dalam hal ini, para peserta latihan harus senantiasa memiliki mental dan kepribadian yang baik, memahami dan menguasai pengetahuan kecabangan Armed karena setiap prajurit dituntut untuk bisa mengawaki Alutsista baru buatan Negara Brazil itu sehingga dapat mendukung tugas pokok TNI AD dalam mempertahankan keutuhan wilayah Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia.

http://kostrad.mil.id/post_kegiatan...ical-maintenance-for-instructors-mlrs-astros/

Celebrating the 74th anniversary of Indonesia armed forces in Indonesia embassy in washington DC, USA. Held in ballroom Bethesda, guest of honor is Major General Kevin Wulfhorst.

Credit to original owner

 

[Nike]

ADEX 2019: KAI 'open' to additional foreign partners on KFX
Jon Grevatt, Seoul - Jane's Defence Industry
16 October 2019
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The next-generation KFX fighter aircraft is expected to enter series production in the mid-2020s. To support its development additional foreign companies could be contracted to provide assistance. Source: KAI
Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) is open to considering additional foreign partners on its project to develop the Korean Fighter Experimental (KFX) aircraft, Jane's has learnt. The potential move comes as the KFX project faces challenges related to investment and capabilities.

Due to funding shortages, Indonesia - Korea's KFX development partner - has stalled on about KRW300 billion (USD253 million) in costs to support its involvement in the project, while local industry faces obstacles to develop some critical technologies for the platform.

A KAI official, who did not want to be identified, told Jane's at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition (ADEX) on 16 October that the KFX development project is still regarded as "open" in terms of technology partners. "This is still not finalised," he said in reference to KFX development alliances. "We could consider additional partners in the future."

Under a defence offset package linked to South Korea's 2014 procurement of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, the US corporation is already positioned as a technical partner on the KFX. Lockheed Martin is obligated to provide assistance across 21 technology suites including flight controls, avionics, systems integration, materials, and unspecified fighter aircraft weaponry.

However, the US government has also refused to export several technology suites under offsets, forcing South Korea to seek to develop these systems indigenously. These suites are related to the active electronically scanned array (AESA) systems, electro-optical targeting pods, infrared search and track systems, and radio frequency jammers.

Elta Systems, a subsidiary of Israel Aerospace Industries, is providing assistance to South Korean firm Hanwha Systems to develop the KFX's AESA radar.

Jane's understands that companies including Saab, Airbus and Boeing could also position themselves as future partners on the KFX, although the scope of that engagement would be subject to requirements, the structure of the partnership, and funding.

https://www.janes.com/article/91946/adex-2019-kai-open-to-additional-foreign-partners-on-kfx

 

[cabatli_53]

ADEX 2019: KAI 'open' to additional foreign partners on KFX
Jon Grevatt, Seoul - Jane's Defence Industry
16 October 2019
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The next-generation KFX fighter aircraft is expected to enter series production in the mid-2020s. To support its development additional foreign companies could be contracted to provide assistance. Source: KAI
Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) is open to considering additional foreign partners on its project to develop the Korean Fighter Experimental (KFX) aircraft, Jane's has learnt. The potential move comes as the KFX project faces challenges related to investment and capabilities.

Due to funding shortages, Indonesia - Korea's KFX development partner - has stalled on about KRW300 billion (USD253 million) in costs to support its involvement in the project, while local industry faces obstacles to develop some critical technologies for the platform.

A KAI official, who did not want to be identified, told Jane's at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition (ADEX) on 16 October that the KFX development project is still regarded as "open" in terms of technology partners. "This is still not finalised," he said in reference to KFX development alliances. "We could consider additional partners in the future."

Under a defence offset package linked to South Korea's 2014 procurement of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, the US corporation is already positioned as a technical partner on the KFX. Lockheed Martin is obligated to provide assistance across 21 technology suites including flight controls, avionics, systems integration, materials, and unspecified fighter aircraft weaponry.

However, the US government has also refused to export several technology suites under offsets, forcing South Korea to seek to develop these systems indigenously. These suites are related to the active electronically scanned array (AESA) systems, electro-optical targeting pods, infrared search and track systems, and radio frequency jammers.

Elta Systems, a subsidiary of Israel Aerospace Industries, is providing assistance to South Korean firm Hanwha Systems to develop the KFX's AESA radar.

Jane's understands that companies including Saab, Airbus and Boeing could also position themselves as future partners on the KFX, although the scope of that engagement would be subject to requirements, the structure of the partnership, and funding.

https://www.janes.com/article/91946/adex-2019-kai-open-to-additional-foreign-partners-on-kfx

I am really shocked about huge amounts of subsystems S. Korea has requested from West. As long as KF-X is subject to foreign licence and export permissions in that level, This aircraft will never serve the partners' benefits. Overall design, stealth fuselage, AESA radar, engine, EO, IRST, Jammer, Flight control, avionics and other materials that is not mentioned in open sources. I really wonder what homegrown system is remained to make a stealth fighter superior when those technologies are licenced from foreign sources. Exporting this aircraft without getting permission from third party countries are impossible. I believe Indonesia should re-consider its decision to get involved into development phase of KF-X program. These aircrafts will only provide more dependence to manufacturers while aiming to become more free on air...

 

[UMNOPutra]

I am really shocked about huge amounts of subsystems S. Korea has requested from West. As long as KF-X is subject to foreign licence and export permissions in that level, This aircraft will never serve the partners' benefits. Overall design, stealth fuselage, AESA radar, engine, EO, IRST, Jammer, Flight control, avionics and other materials that is not mentioned in open sources. I really wonder what homegrown system is remained to make a stealth fighter superior when those technologies are licenced from foreign sources. Exporting this aircraft without getting permission from third party countries are impossible. I believe Indonesia should re-consider its decision to get involved into development phase of KF-X program. These aircrafts will only provide more dependence to manufacturers while aiming to become more free on air...

Welcome to the real world.... Accept the "rule" or stop the project....

 

[Ruhnama]

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In Indonesia every school aviation is part of komcad (komponen cadangan) in which can be mobilized anytime in time of state emergency

What about private aviation school? They are also part of komcad?

 

[san.geuk]

that alman guy said the OPV price is 1.1 trilion for a single 90m opv? a single hull FFBNW, i'm curious is not too pricey isn't it?

 

[HellFireIndo]

Welcome to the real world.... Accept the "rule" or stop the project....

There's nobody here who wanna hear your shit, bitch. Can you just leave?

 

[Gaber]

I am really shocked about huge amounts of subsystems S. Korea has requested from West. As long as KF-X is subject to foreign licence and export permissions in that level, This aircraft will never serve the partners' benefits. Overall design, stealth fuselage, AESA radar, engine, EO, IRST, Jammer, Flight control, avionics and other materials that is not mentioned in open sources. I really wonder what homegrown system is remained to make a stealth fighter superior when those technologies are licenced from foreign sources. Exporting this aircraft without getting permission from third party countries are impossible. I believe Indonesia should re-consider its decision to get involved into development phase of KF-X program. These aircrafts will only provide more dependence to manufacturers while aiming to become more free on air...

I personally prefer Indonesia to work with Turkey on the TFX project even though it's too late...