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[Var Dracon]

Indonesia acquires four Wing Loong I UAVs from China

Key Points

• Indonesia has acquired four units of Wing Loong I UAVs with surface strike capabilities
• Aircraft will be inducted with the country’s first composite UAV aviation squadron in West Kalimantan

The Indonesian government has acquired four strike-capable Wing Loong I medium-altitude, long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicles (MALE UAVs) from Chinese state-owned aerospace and defence company Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC).

A contract for the aircraft was signed in 2017, and the UAVs will be operated by the Indonesian Air Force’s (Tentara Nasional Indonesia – Angkatan Udara’s: TNI-AU’s) Aviation Squadron 51 (Skadron Udara 51), multiple sources from within the TNI headquarters in Cilangkap confirmed separately with Jane’s between 22 and 25 February.

Aviation Squadron 51 is based near the city of Pontianak in West Kalimantan, and the unit shares a runway with the Supadio International Airport. The squadron currently operates Israeli-made Aerostar tactical unmanned aircraft system (UAS) equipped with stabilised, gimbal-mounted electro-optic and infrared (EO/IR) sensor for surveillance missions. With the induction of the Wing Loong I, the unit will be Indonesia’s first composite UAV squadron with two different aircraft types.

The Wing Loong I was developed and manufactured by AVIC’s Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute (CADI) subsidiary. It has a length of 8.7 m, a height of 2.8 m, and features a wingspan of 14 m. The aircraft has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 1,150 kg and a payload capacity of 200 kg.

The UAV is powered by one piston engine, and has a service ceiling of 7,500 m (24,600 ft). It has a maximum range of approximately 108 n miles (200 km), and an endurance of about 20 hours. Payloads that can go on board the Wing Loong I include the DH-3010 search-and-rescue (SAR) radar, and the AVIC Luoyang LE380 EO/IR turret.

http://www.janes.com/article/78147/indonesia-acquires-four-wing-loong-i-uavs-from-china

Four unit isn't enough for a technology transfer, I guess. Maybe we should buy more? China doesn't want to give their C-705 technology unless we bought hundreds of it, which is impossible for us because our financial problems, also they refused to TOT the 3 weapons to Indomesin namely NG-18 CIWS, Type 90B MLRS, and UW-1 RCWS.... Maybe there is a secret talk, whether it's G to G or B to B

 

[Svantana]

Indonesia acquires four Wing Loong I UAVs from China

Key Points

• Indonesia has acquired four units of Wing Loong I UAVs with surface strike capabilities
• Aircraft will be inducted with the country’s first composite UAV aviation squadron in West Kalimantan

The Indonesian government has acquired four strike-capable Wing Loong I medium-altitude, long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicles (MALE UAVs) from Chinese state-owned aerospace and defence company Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC).

A contract for the aircraft was signed in 2017, and the UAVs will be operated by the Indonesian Air Force’s (Tentara Nasional Indonesia – Angkatan Udara’s: TNI-AU’s) Aviation Squadron 51 (Skadron Udara 51), multiple sources from within the TNI headquarters in Cilangkap confirmed separately with Jane’s between 22 and 25 February.

Aviation Squadron 51 is based near the city of Pontianak in West Kalimantan, and the unit shares a runway with the Supadio International Airport. The squadron currently operates Israeli-made Aerostar tactical unmanned aircraft system (UAS) equipped with stabilised, gimbal-mounted electro-optic and infrared (EO/IR) sensor for surveillance missions. With the induction of the Wing Loong I, the unit will be Indonesia’s first composite UAV squadron with two different aircraft types.

The Wing Loong I was developed and manufactured by AVIC’s Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute (CADI) subsidiary. It has a length of 8.7 m, a height of 2.8 m, and features a wingspan of 14 m. The aircraft has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 1,150 kg and a payload capacity of 200 kg.

The UAV is powered by one piston engine, and has a service ceiling of 7,500 m (24,600 ft). It has a maximum range of approximately 108 n miles (200 km), and an endurance of about 20 hours. Payloads that can go on board the Wing Loong I include the DH-3010 search-and-rescue (SAR) radar, and the AVIC Luoyang LE380 EO/IR turret.

http://www.janes.com/article/78147/indonesia-acquires-four-wing-loong-i-uavs-from-china

bedanya sama wing loong 2 apa aja y ?

 

[pr1v4t33r]

bedanya sama wing loong 2 apa aja y ?

dibikin threadnya aja, pasti forumer china langsung pada nimbrung jawab.

 

[Nike]

dibikin threadnya aja, pasti forumer china langsung pada nimbrung jawab.

Lol

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

bedanya sama wing loong 2 apa aja y ?

Different type of engine

 

[Beast]

Lol

I thought you last time claim China UCAV quality not as good as Israel and Israel one score high mark on evalutation? Indonesia will buy from Israel or Turkey? What happen to better score of Israel drone?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...-combat-aerial-vehicles.533879/#post-10096018


http://www.janes.com/article/78147/indonesia-acquires-four-wing-loong-i-uavs-from-china

China UCAV is the golden standard for most countries who wish for UCAV. Good price, great quality and technology. Battle tested.
Israel heron drone is outdated and cannot do combat missile. It cannot compete with China Wing Loong and CH-4/5 series.

Different type of engine

Its the same engine for Wing long I, only the PLAAF got more powerful engine reserve for domestic used.

 

[striver44]

I thought you last time claim China UCAV quality not as good as Israel and Israel one score high mark on evalutation? Indonesia will buy from Israel or Turkey? What happen to better score of Israel drone?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...-combat-aerial-vehicles.533879/#post-10096018


http://www.janes.com/article/78147/indonesia-acquires-four-wing-loong-i-uavs-from-china

China UCAV is the golden standard for most countries who wish for UCAV. Good price, great quality and technology. Battle tested.
Israel heron drone is outdated and cannot do combat missile. It cannot compete with China Wing Loong and CH-4/5 series.

Its the same engine for Wing long I, only the PLAAF got more powerful engine reserve for domestic used.

Congrats china

Indonesia acquires four Wing Loong I UAVs from China

Key Points

• Indonesia has acquired four units of Wing Loong I UAVs with surface strike capabilities
• Aircraft will be inducted with the country’s first composite UAV aviation squadron in West Kalimantan

The Indonesian government has acquired four strike-capable Wing Loong I medium-altitude, long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicles (MALE UAVs) from Chinese state-owned aerospace and defence company Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC).

A contract for the aircraft was signed in 2017, and the UAVs will be operated by the Indonesian Air Force’s (Tentara Nasional Indonesia – Angkatan Udara’s: TNI-AU’s) Aviation Squadron 51 (Skadron Udara 51), multiple sources from within the TNI headquarters in Cilangkap confirmed separately with Jane’s between 22 and 25 February.

Aviation Squadron 51 is based near the city of Pontianak in West Kalimantan, and the unit shares a runway with the Supadio International Airport. The squadron currently operates Israeli-made Aerostar tactical unmanned aircraft system (UAS) equipped with stabilised, gimbal-mounted electro-optic and infrared (EO/IR) sensor for surveillance missions. With the induction of the Wing Loong I, the unit will be Indonesia’s first composite UAV squadron with two different aircraft types.

The Wing Loong I was developed and manufactured by AVIC’s Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute (CADI) subsidiary. It has a length of 8.7 m, a height of 2.8 m, and features a wingspan of 14 m. The aircraft has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 1,150 kg and a payload capacity of 200 kg.

The UAV is powered by one piston engine, and has a service ceiling of 7,500 m (24,600 ft). It has a maximum range of approximately 108 n miles (200 km), and an endurance of about 20 hours. Payloads that can go on board the Wing Loong I include the DH-3010 search-and-rescue (SAR) radar, and the AVIC Luoyang LE380 EO/IR turret.

http://www.janes.com/article/78147/indonesia-acquires-four-wing-loong-i-uavs-from-china

Trus proyek tai anka gimana?

 

[Nike]

I thought you last time claim China UCAV quality not as good as Israel and Israel one score high mark on evalutation? Indonesia will buy from Israel or Turkey? What happen to better score of Israel drone?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...-combat-aerial-vehicles.533879/#post-10096018


http://www.janes.com/article/78147/indonesia-acquires-four-wing-loong-i-uavs-from-china

China UCAV is the golden standard for most countries who wish for UCAV. Good price, great quality and technology. Battle tested.
Israel heron drone is outdated and cannot do combat missile. It cannot compete with China Wing Loong and CH-4/5 series.

Its the same engine for Wing long I, only the PLAAF got more powerful engine reserve for domestic used.

And at the same thread i said we had tested it, and admit dont know what the higher ups decided.

 

[Beast]

And at the same thread i said we had tested it, and admit dont know what the higher ups decided.

Hi, Israel Heron is a joke compare to China Wing Loong I. Israel Heron is an old generation which can only surveilance and not carry out any combat mission, limited payload and older technology. Wing Loong I can do surveilance and immediate carry out attack at commanders command,carry more powerful sensor and avionics.

It is just like testing out a Datsun sedan against a Ferrari. It is no surprised Indonesian picked China Wing Loong I

 

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[Beny Karachun]

Hi, Israel Heron is a joke compare to China Wing Loong I. Israel Heron is an old generation which can only surveilance and not carry out any combat mission, limited payload and older technology. Wing Loong I can do surveilance and immediate carry out attack at commanders command,carry more powerful sensor and avionics.

It is just like testing out a Datsun sedan against a Ferrari. It is no surprised Indonesian picked China Wing Loong I

The Wing Loong I's endurance is 20 hours, compared to Heron's 52 hours, maximum altitude is around 5000 meters while Heron's is 9,100 meters.
The Chinese drone is faster though. Compare it to the Heron-TP (Eitan) or the Heron-TP-XP and it would get blown out of the water.

 

[initial_d_mk2]

Wing loong 1 now, who knows next will be FC-31
Best bang for buck though

 

[Svantana]

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Trus proyek tai anka gimana?

Jalan terus dong. Yang bareng TAI malah lebih condong ke HALE, max operating altitude lebih dari 40.000 ft (12 km). Wing Loong cuma 16.000 ft (5 km).

Terus yang bareng TAI ini sifatnya kerjasama pengembangan, jadi kita dapet ToT dll. Mirip pengembangan medium tank bareng FNSS.