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firstly, your post is out of topic. Syrian conflict has nothing to do with this thread
Indonesia is ready to continue to buy the vaunted " German trash - Leopard-2 series" from Germany and still jeopardize the lives of Indonesian tankman or better to buy Ukrainian the best tanks T-64 with a high protection?
firstly, your post is out of topic. Syrian conflict has nothing to do with this thread
secondly, maybe you should think first before posting any comment with trolling intention
your argument is rubbish,
if you look the picture closely,
there's no debris scattered around the tank
there's no insert wound anywhere within the body and the turret
so, we can conclude that the damage is not done by outside threat, because there's no penetration at all!
that tank is deliberately destroyed by the crew
you know, it is a common standard operating procedure for the tank crew disabling their own tank in special circumstances
it is done when the tank is damaged beyond repair,
they destroyed their own tank to prevent the weaponry fall to the enemy's hand
that's why in battlefield, tank crew is typically equipped with thermite grenade
unlike Leopard 2, your Bulat tank is just a garage queen..she's never seen any actual combat, am i right?
Well rested Indonesians, I do not see your admiration for what you have bought a German tank Leopard 2 trash instead of a good Ukrainian T-64! ? Rejoice. You deserve it
See all wide-eyed
vaunted German tank
no way that minor debris caused by ammo cook-off or high explosiveThere seem to be debris at the right side of the tank
I understand that you are incredibly proud of your tanks.Ironically you have become a bad representative for your own country. Politeness can give so much benefits in the long run.
New Recruit
^^^unlike Leopard 2, your Bulat tank is just a garage queen..she's never seen any actual combat, am i right?
New Recruit
Turks and Indonesians - two people - brothers in style making wrong decisions. Both the people and the Turks and Indonesians God gave a chance to choose their normal tanks, which they would have been proud.
But the Turks and Indonesians have made a fatal mistake - choose German tanks Leopard-2 series. God in 2000 gave the Turks a chance instead of German Leoard-2A4 select developed by Ukraine under the Turkish side demands Ukrainian T-84 Yatagan (Scimitar), but the Turks have disobeyed God, and went on about fashion by German shit - Leopard-2.
With Indonesians exactly a decade later happened also ironic in the Turkish manner. In 2011, God gave a chance not stupid Indonesians instead of German Leoard-2A4 Revolution choose the Ukrainian tank T-64, but the Indonesians disobeyed God, and went on about fashion, like the Turks by the German shit - Leopard-2 Revolution. The Turks for their mistake already bitterly paying right now. And indoneziyvtsev still ahead!
What all of you and congratulate ...
There are many factors as to how the turkish army lost its tanks. Several evaluation shows that the problem with turkish army is that their tanks move almost alone if not alone at all. This doctrine is common among middle eastern armies tho.. REGARDLESS what tank they ride. It can be seen from many videos that shows that tanks moved ALONE in cities, no wonder they were blind in many spots.
In comparison, Indonesian cavalry doctrine states that tanks should not go alone if you have seen our latest military wargame in this video
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See minute 2:50, you can see that our Leos are accompanied by mechanized infantries with M113s and Marder IFVs.