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Defense industry urged to be transparent on technology
Outdated technology: During a celebration of the 70th anniversary of the Indonesian Military at Indah Kiat Port in Banten, on Oct. 5, 2015, President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo said the government aimed to modernize Indonesia’s primary weaponry defense system. (tempo.co/-)
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The National Air and Space Power Center of Indonesia (NASPCI) has urged the government to revise Law No.16/2012 on technology transparency in the defense industry.
“We expect the revised law to support our interest in creating security with sophisticated weaponry systems and that regulations will not be an obstacle for defense development,” NASPCI coordinator Air Vice Marshal Usra Hendra Harahap said after a focus group discussion on the role of the defense industry to support weaponry for the Indonesian Air Force, in Jakarta on Tuesday.
Harahap said the development of the defense industry and the need for weapons should be balanced.
“Indeed we have to buy weapons from our defense industry, but we also need to know the technology capability of our defense industry, as well as its transparency,” Harahap said. “We don’t want the industry to claim that it can make everything, but the fact is it can’t. Transparency is very important.”
Military expert Al Araf supported the idea of revising the law on the defense industry.
“When we talk about a transfer of technology in the law, to be honest it is not easy. We need to implement a ‘learning by doing’ motto, otherwise we can’t do that. This is also important in the revised law,” Al Araf said.
Currently, Indonesia has several companies that focus on defense, namely state-owned land system and weapons maker PT Pindad, aerospace industry player PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) and shipbuilding company PT PAL.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...ry-urged-to-be-transparent-on-technology.html
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The National Air and Space Power Center of Indonesia (NASPCI) has urged the government to revise Law No.16/2012 on technology transparency in the defense industry.
“We expect the revised law to support our interest in creating security with sophisticated weaponry systems and that regulations will not be an obstacle for defense development,” NASPCI coordinator Air Vice Marshal Usra Hendra Harahap said after a focus group discussion on the role of the defense industry to support weaponry for the Indonesian Air Force, in Jakarta on Tuesday.
Harahap said the development of the defense industry and the need for weapons should be balanced.
“Indeed we have to buy weapons from our defense industry, but we also need to know the technology capability of our defense industry, as well as its transparency,” Harahap said. “We don’t want the industry to claim that it can make everything, but the fact is it can’t. Transparency is very important.”
Military expert Al Araf supported the idea of revising the law on the defense industry.
“When we talk about a transfer of technology in the law, to be honest it is not easy. We need to implement a ‘learning by doing’ motto, otherwise we can’t do that. This is also important in the revised law,” Al Araf said.
Currently, Indonesia has several companies that focus on defense, namely state-owned land system and weapons maker PT Pindad, aerospace industry player PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) and shipbuilding company PT PAL.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...ry-urged-to-be-transparent-on-technology.html
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Marder medium tank. Indonesian Marder IFV have few number upgraded by Rheinmetall include better power packs, better suspension, better protection and raised roof
Indo Defence 2016: Tank boat dominance moves up river
The new X-18 Tank Boat built by Indonesian shipbuilder PT Lundin is expected to begin firing trials next year.
An actual-sized model is on display at the Indo Defence exhibition. The vessel combines the versatility of a lightweight catamaran with the power of a 105mm gun from CMI Defence, one of Lundin's partners.
The Indonesian MoD has taken a real interest in the system. Widjajanto, the chief commercial officer at PT Pindad – the other partner of Lundin – said that the Minister of Defence has expressed interest in developing a new specialist ‘swamp battalion’ that can traverse the numerous Indonesian waterways and thinks the craft can fit this role.
Widjajanto added that there were discussions with a Middle East country about the vehicle. UAE has previously expressed an interest in the vehicle.
First announced in May 2015, the X-18 has now completed structural design and engineering phases. CEO of PT Lundin, John Lundin, told Shephard that the company has also run the vessel in a test tank to prove the concept and was ready to start building and get a prototype in the water fitted with the CMI 3105 modular turret that can fire from 30mm to 105mm calibre munitions.
Lundin said the X-18 is technically feasible using a catamaran hull made from advanced composite materials and using the 105mm turret from CMI Defence.
The 40t boat ultimately has three functions. The first was to have a brown water/riverine craft but secondly to also has a green water/littoral capability to work close to the shore to support amphibious landings on a large scale as well giving firepower along the waterways and in very shallow water.
Instead of having large warships with small guns and trying to get close to the shore, the concept is to put larger calibre guns on smaller vessels to provide fire support.
‘What is unique about the CMI gun is it has 42° elevation so that when an amphibious landing reaches stage two on the shore it can beach land and provide an artillery function to back up the troops. CMI as far as we know is the only one that can offer this dual functionality,’ Lundin said.
The third role is as a troop transporter/logistics craft. X-18 has a crew of six but can take up to 20 troops and logistics supplies and in the same sense could be used in a medical evacuation role if required.
The main challenge in carrying a heavy gun on a lightweight boat is having good enough stabilisation. The catamaran hull with a hydrofoil (underwater wings) takes away a lot of the stability issues. Along with a good gyrostabilisation system from a vehicle, a relatively small boat can support a larger calibre gun and all additional personnel and logistics loads.
Lundin argued that a turret on a vehicle moving over land actually moves a lot more than when compared to a turret on a waterborne platform.
CMI technology has been able to manage the recoil forces of the gun, Jean-Luc Maurange, president of CMI Defence, told Shephard that ‘although the gun is large calibre the recoil forces that are transported from the weapon to the boat are massively lower than a traditional tank gun’.
Therefore when doing composite materials engineering the forces they have to contend with are of a magnitude less making it more feasible to support a bigger gun.
The other major challenge alongside the stability issue was the marinisation of the 105mm gun and turret for maritime operations. CMI has used different materials, adding corrosion protection sealing for the electronics. Maurange said this was the major part of the work that they had to do.
Furthermore, the tower structure below the turret, which usually goes deep down into a standard naval vessel and includes the basket and ammunition handling and storage, is much less on the X-18.
Maurange said that the CMI gun uses an autoloader with a bussle, which means that the depth that the turret extends into the boat is an order of magnitude lower and permits the architecture for the craft. It can store 32 shells in two rows of 16 and these are stored below the waterline.
The armour package is 7.62mm protection for the crew areas and 12.7mm for frontal protection. Lundin said that during beach landings the protection systems often use 12.7mm so this will offer extra reinforcement although weight restrictions means that it can be provided all around.
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/...t-dominance-moves-river/#.WBh6XmYDdhE.twitter
Indo Defence 2016: Tank boat dominance moves up river
The new X-18 Tank Boat built by Indonesian shipbuilder PT Lundin is expected to begin firing trials next year.
An actual-sized model is on display at the Indo Defence exhibition. The vessel combines the versatility of a lightweight catamaran with the power of a 105mm gun from CMI Defence, one of Lundin's partners.
The Indonesian MoD has taken a real interest in the system. Widjajanto, the chief commercial officer at PT Pindad – the other partner of Lundin – said that the Minister of Defence has expressed interest in developing a new specialist ‘swamp battalion’ that can traverse the numerous Indonesian waterways and thinks the craft can fit this role.
Widjajanto added that there were discussions with a Middle East country about the vehicle. UAE has previously expressed an interest in the vehicle.
First announced in May 2015, the X-18 has now completed structural design and engineering phases. CEO of PT Lundin, John Lundin, told Shephard that the company has also run the vessel in a test tank to prove the concept and was ready to start building and get a prototype in the water fitted with the CMI 3105 modular turret that can fire from 30mm to 105mm calibre munitions.
Lundin said the X-18 is technically feasible using a catamaran hull made from advanced composite materials and using the 105mm turret from CMI Defence.
The 40t boat ultimately has three functions. The first was to have a brown water/riverine craft but secondly to also has a green water/littoral capability to work close to the shore to support amphibious landings on a large scale as well giving firepower along the waterways and in very shallow water.
Instead of having large warships with small guns and trying to get close to the shore, the concept is to put larger calibre guns on smaller vessels to provide fire support.
‘What is unique about the CMI gun is it has 42° elevation so that when an amphibious landing reaches stage two on the shore it can beach land and provide an artillery function to back up the troops. CMI as far as we know is the only one that can offer this dual functionality,’ Lundin said.
The third role is as a troop transporter/logistics craft. X-18 has a crew of six but can take up to 20 troops and logistics supplies and in the same sense could be used in a medical evacuation role if required.
The main challenge in carrying a heavy gun on a lightweight boat is having good enough stabilisation. The catamaran hull with a hydrofoil (underwater wings) takes away a lot of the stability issues. Along with a good gyrostabilisation system from a vehicle, a relatively small boat can support a larger calibre gun and all additional personnel and logistics loads.
Lundin argued that a turret on a vehicle moving over land actually moves a lot more than when compared to a turret on a waterborne platform.
CMI technology has been able to manage the recoil forces of the gun, Jean-Luc Maurange, president of CMI Defence, told Shephard that ‘although the gun is large calibre the recoil forces that are transported from the weapon to the boat are massively lower than a traditional tank gun’.
Therefore when doing composite materials engineering the forces they have to contend with are of a magnitude less making it more feasible to support a bigger gun.
The other major challenge alongside the stability issue was the marinisation of the 105mm gun and turret for maritime operations. CMI has used different materials, adding corrosion protection sealing for the electronics. Maurange said this was the major part of the work that they had to do.
Furthermore, the tower structure below the turret, which usually goes deep down into a standard naval vessel and includes the basket and ammunition handling and storage, is much less on the X-18.
Maurange said that the CMI gun uses an autoloader with a bussle, which means that the depth that the turret extends into the boat is an order of magnitude lower and permits the architecture for the craft. It can store 32 shells in two rows of 16 and these are stored below the waterline.
The armour package is 7.62mm protection for the crew areas and 12.7mm for frontal protection. Lundin said that during beach landings the protection systems often use 12.7mm so this will offer extra reinforcement although weight restrictions means that it can be provided all around.
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/...t-dominance-moves-river/#.WBh6XmYDdhE.twitter
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Light weight, low profile [INDODEF16-D1]
FNSS Savunma Sistemleri of Turkey and local company PT Pindad have unveiled their Modern Medium Weight Tank (MMWT) at Indo Defence 2016.
The MMWT is being developed for the Indonesian Army and two prototypes are being built, one in Turkey and one in Indonesia – both to be completed in 2017.
It is fitted with a Belgian CMI Defence two-person turret armed with a 105mm rifled gun that is fed by a bustle-mounted automatic loader with a 7.62mm machine gun mounted co-axial with the main armament. The 105mm gun can fire a wide range of ammunition.
To enable stationary and moving targets to be engaged with a high first round hit probability, a computerised fire control system is installed; the commander and gunner are both provided with stabilised day/night sights incorporating a laser rangefinder. The commander is provided with a panoramic sighting system to allow for hunter/ killer target engagements to take place.
The powerpack is a high-performance diesel engine coupled to an electronically controlled automatic transmission and a cooling system to allow the MMWT to operate in high ambient temperatures.
FNSS is quoting a maximum road speed of 70km/h, a cruising range of up to 450km and a power-to-weight ratio of 20hp/tonne with a gross vehicle weight of around 35 tonnes.
The baseline hull is of all-welded steel armour to which an appliqué armour package can be fitted for a higher level of ballistic protection.
Under-belly mine protection is fitted, as is a fire detection and suppression system. Standard equipment includes an air-conditioning system, cameras for situational awareness and an auxiliary power unit that allows all the key subsystems to be run with the main diesel engine switched off.
The role of the MMWT is not to engage more heavily armed and protected main battle tanks but to engage lighter threat vehicles such as reconnaissance platforms, infantry fighting vehicles, troop carriers and combat support vehicles.
It can also be used to support dismounted infantry in the direct fire role, with the 105mm gun being used against pill boxes and other battlefield obstacles. Its light weight and low profile allow it to be deployed in areas that cannot be accessed by traditional MBTs that today normally weigh well over 70 tonnes.
http://www.janes.com/article/65134/light-weight-low-profile-indodef16-d1
FNSS Savunma Sistemleri of Turkey and local company PT Pindad have unveiled their Modern Medium Weight Tank (MMWT) at Indo Defence 2016.
The MMWT is being developed for the Indonesian Army and two prototypes are being built, one in Turkey and one in Indonesia – both to be completed in 2017.
It is fitted with a Belgian CMI Defence two-person turret armed with a 105mm rifled gun that is fed by a bustle-mounted automatic loader with a 7.62mm machine gun mounted co-axial with the main armament. The 105mm gun can fire a wide range of ammunition.
To enable stationary and moving targets to be engaged with a high first round hit probability, a computerised fire control system is installed; the commander and gunner are both provided with stabilised day/night sights incorporating a laser rangefinder. The commander is provided with a panoramic sighting system to allow for hunter/ killer target engagements to take place.
The powerpack is a high-performance diesel engine coupled to an electronically controlled automatic transmission and a cooling system to allow the MMWT to operate in high ambient temperatures.
FNSS is quoting a maximum road speed of 70km/h, a cruising range of up to 450km and a power-to-weight ratio of 20hp/tonne with a gross vehicle weight of around 35 tonnes.
The baseline hull is of all-welded steel armour to which an appliqué armour package can be fitted for a higher level of ballistic protection.
Under-belly mine protection is fitted, as is a fire detection and suppression system. Standard equipment includes an air-conditioning system, cameras for situational awareness and an auxiliary power unit that allows all the key subsystems to be run with the main diesel engine switched off.
The role of the MMWT is not to engage more heavily armed and protected main battle tanks but to engage lighter threat vehicles such as reconnaissance platforms, infantry fighting vehicles, troop carriers and combat support vehicles.
It can also be used to support dismounted infantry in the direct fire role, with the 105mm gun being used against pill boxes and other battlefield obstacles. Its light weight and low profile allow it to be deployed in areas that cannot be accessed by traditional MBTs that today normally weigh well over 70 tonnes.
http://www.janes.com/article/65134/light-weight-low-profile-indodef16-d1
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N219. Credit to PT DI.
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Turangga APC - PT Karya Tugas Anda. Credit to Felix Lintang.
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Turangga APC - PT Karya Tugas Anda. Credit to Felix Lintang.
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Turangga APC - PT Karya Tugas Anda. Credit to Felix Lintang.
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Look at those curves!!
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Looks promising, but they have to compete with PINDAD Komodo 4x4 APC & SSE if they wanna sell it to the Armed forces & Police. Do they have a chance? Pindad already bagged hundred unit order for Komodo 4x4.
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$20 Billion Defence Budget Boom in Indonesia, IHS Markit Says
Indonesia to become fifth fastest-growing defence budget in the world
October 31, 2016 05:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
LONDON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Despite a recent slowdown in defence spending, Indonesia will experience a return to robust growth by 2019, according to new analysis from IHS Markit (Nasdaq: INFO), a world leader in critical information, analytics and solutions.
Indonesia will be the fifth fastest-growing defence budget in the world between 2016 and 2025, the IHS Markit analysis predicts, growing at a compound annual rate of 4.7 percent and spending more than $20 billion on procurement over the period.
“Indonesia currently faces several challenges. It has confrontations around the Natuna Islands in the South China Sea as well as maritime piracy and terrorism issues in its territorial waters,” said Ridzwan Rahmat, senior defence and security analyst for IHS Jane’s. “At the same time, it is trying to enhance autonomy in its defence.”
Driven by escalating strategic concerns, Indonesia’s military requires a wide range of equipment, especially in sea and air domains. Procurement programs the government has approved for the period of 2015 and 2019 include an F-5 multirole fighter, offshore patrol vessels, replacement of mine countermeasure vessels (MCMVs) and artilleries.
Intense competition
The Indonesian defence market is shifting, with the country’s commitment to diversify suppliers. Between 2009 and 2018, more than 30 countries are expected to export to Indonesia. “This reflects Indonesia’s wariness about dependency of a supplier or a set of suppliers, as well as the intention to ‘shop around’ for the best defence deals, spurring competition,” said Jon Grevatt, APAC defence industry analyst for IHS Jane’s.
During the same period, South Korea, Russia and France will hold a combined 53 percent of market share. The other half of that market will be shared by about 30 countries, many with even less than 1 percent. “South Korea recently assumed the major supplier position, mainly supported by such key deals as the T-50 jet trainer and Type 209 submarines,” Grevatt said. “The U.S. is also quickly gaining market share although the wariness of the U.S. still persists in Indonesia.”
Industrial capability
Indonesia’s indigenous capability is still limited but with the government’s commitment to develop capability as a means to boost the economy, it is slowly developing thanks to collaboration with foreign contractors. A number of co-development and production projects have emerged in the past five years or so, including some industry engagement and obligations. “Some of these can be regarded as over-ambitious, such as the Type 209 submarines, South Korea’s next-generation KFX fighter, and medium tanks with Turkey,” Grevatt said. “Yet, the collaboration strategy is certain to remain the key driver for the advancement at all levels of procurement.”
IHS Jane’s experts Ridzwan Rahmat and Jon Grevatt will attend the Indo Defence 2016 Expo & Forum from November 2 to 5, 2016. For comment and interviews ahead of and during the event, please contact press@ihs.com.
Read more at http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161031005426/en/20-Billion-Defence-Budget-Boom-Indonesia-IHS
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As I said earlier, they better aim for civic market. Make some civilian versions out of that thing. No problem with the engines not being geneuinely made, as Lykan Hypersport also uses Porsche engine.
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Yup, they can also target export market by offering JV with any interested parties.
PINDAD & FNSS Medium Tank
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Looking at it from different angles, it seems like what the Hydra Army would use
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