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Indonesia to develop submarine industry
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta, Sat, June 15 2013, 3:29 PM


The Defense Ministry says it will cooperate with the South Korean government to develop a submarine-construction industry here as a follow up to earlier knowledge transfers between the two countries.

“We are now preparing the human resources and facilities,” Head of the defense facilities agency at the Defense Ministry Rear. Adm. Rachmad Lubis said as quoted by tempo.co.id on Saturday.

He said the Ministry of Research and Technology was currently recruiting Indonesian participants who would participate in a technology-transfer program at Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering in South Korea.

“In terms of preparations for the facility, the State-Owned Enterprises Ministry is currently drawing up a design of the construction of shipyard facilities,” he added.

Analysts have called for enhanced defense cooperation between South Korea and Indonesia beyond military procurement to closer industrial cooperation. (hrl/dic)


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Despite KFX delay, S. Korea prioritizes RI’s defense link
Bagus BT Saragih, The Jakarta Post | World | Sat, June 15 2013, 11:16 AM

kfx_indonesian_variant.png

KF-X Jet Fighter concept image.

South Korea has renewed its commitment to creating a strong defense and military cooperation with Indonesia amid growing concerns surrounding the South Korean government’s decision to postpone the joint development of the KFX/IFX jet fighter.

The commitment was delivered by South Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-se during a courtesy call meeting with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in Nusa Dua, Bali, on Friday.

“On defense, the South Korean minister told [the President] that they had been identifying prospective nations to partner with. In South Korean weaponry production, the minister said that the country would only focus on selected partners, and during the meeting, we got the impression that Indonesia was still its priority partner,” Presidential spokesman for foreign affairs Teuku Faizasyah said after accompanying the President in the meeting.

The courtesy call was held on the sidelines of the sixth ministerial meeting of the Forum for East Asia and Latin America Cooperation (FEALAC).

After meeting with the South Korean minister, Yudhoyono also held a collective courtesy call meeting with delegation heads of all 34 participating nations.

Faizasyah, however, said that the meeting did not specifically discuss the KFX/IFX project; a program intended to develop a next-generation fighter aircraft by 2020.

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro previously said that the postponement of the project was because South Korea’s government was in transition. But many have suggested that South Korea’s new president, Park Geun-hye, supported by the parliament, had decided to reassess all defense and military cooperation plans with Indonesia entirely for financial reasons.

The project’s agreement was signed in 2012 when South Korea was still led by then president Lee Myung-bak.

The deal stated that Indonesia would pay for up to 20 percent of the US$5 billion development project with the remaining 80 percent to be paid by the South Korean government and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI).

However, according to Faizasyah, Yun said during his meeting with Yudhoyono that there had been no change in regard to the state of the Indonesia-South Korea relationship. “[Yan] reiterated that the good and robust relationship between the two countries would be a model of bilateral relations that South Korea would also implement with its other partner countries,” he said.

According to the Indonesian Defense Ministry, the government already spent at least US$2.7 million in 2011 and $7.3 million in 2012 on the project.

Purnomo previously said that the government would go ahead with the KFX/IFX development despite the delay.

Yudhoyono, meanwhile, told the South Korean minister that Indonesia was keen to partner with Seoul to develop its creative industry. “The creative industry is not limited to small-and medium-level but also those with high-level technology. [The President’s] proposal was responded to in a positive manner,” Faizasyah said.

Despite KFX delay, S. Korea prioritizes RI
 
Despite KFX delay, S. Korea prioritizes RI’s defense link
Bagus BT Saragih, The Jakarta Post | World | Sat, June 15 2013, 11:16 AM

kfx_indonesian_variant.png

KF-X Jet Fighter concept image.

South Korea has renewed its commitment to creating a strong defense and military cooperation with Indonesia amid growing concerns surrounding the South Korean government’s decision to postpone the joint development of the KFX/IFX jet fighter.

The commitment was delivered by South Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-se during a courtesy call meeting with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in Nusa Dua, Bali, on Friday.

“On defense, the South Korean minister told [the President] that they had been identifying prospective nations to partner with. In South Korean weaponry production, the minister said that the country would only focus on selected partners, and during the meeting, we got the impression that Indonesia was still its priority partner,” Presidential spokesman for foreign affairs Teuku Faizasyah said after accompanying the President in the meeting.

The courtesy call was held on the sidelines of the sixth ministerial meeting of the Forum for East Asia and Latin America Cooperation (FEALAC).

After meeting with the South Korean minister, Yudhoyono also held a collective courtesy call meeting with delegation heads of all 34 participating nations.

Faizasyah, however, said that the meeting did not specifically discuss the KFX/IFX project; a program intended to develop a next-generation fighter aircraft by 2020.

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro previously said that the postponement of the project was because South Korea’s government was in transition. But many have suggested that South Korea’s new president, Park Geun-hye, supported by the parliament, had decided to reassess all defense and military cooperation plans with Indonesia entirely for financial reasons.

The project’s agreement was signed in 2012 when South Korea was still led by then president Lee Myung-bak.

The deal stated that Indonesia would pay for up to 20 percent of the US$5 billion development project with the remaining 80 percent to be paid by the South Korean government and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI).

However, according to Faizasyah, Yun said during his meeting with Yudhoyono that there had been no change in regard to the state of the Indonesia-South Korea relationship. “[Yan] reiterated that the good and robust relationship between the two countries would be a model of bilateral relations that South Korea would also implement with its other partner countries,” he said.

According to the Indonesian Defense Ministry, the government already spent at least US$2.7 million in 2011 and $7.3 million in 2012 on the project.

Purnomo previously said that the government would go ahead with the KFX/IFX development despite the delay.

Yudhoyono, meanwhile, told the South Korean minister that Indonesia was keen to partner with Seoul to develop its creative industry. “The creative industry is not limited to small-and medium-level but also those with high-level technology. [The President’s] proposal was responded to in a positive manner,” Faizasyah said.

Despite KFX delay, S. Korea prioritizes RI
Dam now even that project has been delayed Man Indonesia really need to go for Sukhoi Planes as soon as possible other wise your Army and Navy are sitting ducks in case of any war
 
Dam now even that project has been delayed Man Indonesia really need to go for Sukhoi Planes as soon as possible other wise your Army and Navy are sitting ducks in case of any war
relax.... we're not goin to war tomorrow. With Indonesia's current economic condition, its not wise to buy and operate bulk of jet fighters bcoz jet fighters have very high operational cost per hour compare to warships and ground assets.

look at Brazil... they have far more bigger GDP than Indonesia but their airforce only operate few jet fighter just like Indonesia
 
relax.... we're not goin to war tomorrow. With Indonesia's current economic condition, its not wise to buy and operate bulk of jet fighters bcoz jet fighters have very high operational cost per hour compare to warships and ground assets.

look at Brazil... they have far more bigger GDP than Indonesia but their airforce only operate few jet fighter just like Indonesia
Sir you region is getting destabilized by every passing day and war will not tell you that its coming and you are nor prepared for that not even close you really need to speed up the modernization of your Air Force

relax.... we're not goin to war tomorrow. With Indonesia's current economic condition, its not wise to buy and operate bulk of jet fighters bcoz jet fighters have very high operational cost per hour compare to warships and ground assets.

look at Brazil... they have far more bigger GDP than Indonesia but their airforce only operate few jet fighter just like Indonesia
Yes and they will cry the day they made this mistake in case of any war
 
Dam now even that project has been delayed Man Indonesia really need to go for Sukhoi Planes as soon as possible other wise your Army and Navy are sitting ducks in case of any war

Not to worry according to the country think-tank. Indonesia remain safe for the next 50 years.
 
The best defense for Indonesia is to keep the country stay united.
Treat the minorities nicely yet under control, enhance social harmony between citizens of all ancestry and religions while at the same time increase productivity and remove poverty.
For any aggressor to take on Indonesia, it will try to break it up from inside first.
IMO Indonesia been doing a decent job for the pass few years.
 
and You believe these think tanks :omghaha: Now I know why Indonesian Air Force is is the mess :suicide:

Other than the facts that Think-Tank are usually consist of the country brightest & that's pretty much what we paid them for :laughcry:. Beside who wants to FU*K us anyway?
 
Yes yes keep believing these think tanks :hitwall: Man please grow up events are changing fast and you guys are not
 
Yes yes keep believing these think tanks :hitwall: Man please grow up events are changing fast and you guys are not

I appreciate your concern over our Air Force condition, but as I said before, most of national budget goes for infrastructure. I want and urge the government to purchase hundreds of pure jet fighters, but they don't see it as an urgent matter. Instead, they started to flex many anti-air mobile brigades to counter any attack from skies and navy. Our air force, although it is not as strong as China or India, it is considered enough to counter any air force in the region.
 
If CN wants Indonesia's lumber and oil, it will always pay fairly for it. Besides, Indonesia has lots of Chinese connection from within. Tourism from CN is on the rise too now.
India will not attack Indonesia lightly as another Muslim power PK is at its back.
Stay friendly or at least not aggressively with Singapore and Malaysia, all sides has much to gain from it.
Thailand will always want to and try to stay neutral as a buffer zone for all sides, and will be supported by other major powers for doing so.
Some modern jets will be helpful though, mainly as a deterrence.
Like I say, treat all citizens fairly and well and stay united, so Indonesia can develop and retain local talents, productivity will improve together with living standard.
Indonesia will stay strong and stable that way.
 

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