Indonesia Defence Forum

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Indonesia new coast guard ship, KN Tanjung Datu (110 meter long), built by Indonesian local shipyard, PT Palindo Marine.

 

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The reason Korean need to build their own fighter than just relying on US fighters. These coming from Korean Air Force ex pilot/General. One main reason is that it will be cheaper and easier to maintain our own fighter. In the time of war, this is very crucial. Some time he said Korean must delay the maintenance for about six month or even up to one year due to their dependency on US manufacturer.

Indonesian Aerospace official also said previously in other media that Indonesia will be much easier to upgrade the plane if KFX/IFX become our back bone fighter and he said this will give some sort of advantage for our Air Force that in the end can increase our deterrent capability.

 

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AL receives 2 new LST from PT. DKB ( Dok Dan Perkapalan Kodja Bahari)
KRI Teluk Kendari 518 & KRI Teluk Kupang 519

https://twitter.com/x/status/1336212587977998343

Australian and Indonesian Navies Coordinated Patrol 2020

The AUSINDO CORPAT 2020 highlights that the important task of patrolling our shared borders and spending quality in-company time as mariners, warfighters, brothers and sisters and strategic partners does not stop because of COVID-19

https://twitter.com/x/status/1336181461037150208

 

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The Commander of Kolinlamil Begins Tasks, Attends the Commemoration of RI Fleet Day 2020

By mimbarmaritim on December 7, 2020

Mimbar Maritim - Surabaya

Satya Wira Jala Dharma . Commander of the Military Naval Crossing Command (Kolinlamil) First Admiral TNI Irvansyah, SH, CHRMP, M. Tr (Opsla) attended the 2020 Republic of Indonesia (RI) Fleet Day ceremony at Ujung Pier, Surabaya, Monday (7/12/2020).

The 2020 Fleet Day which was held virtually was also attended by Base Commanders with Ceremonial Inspector (Irup) Chief of Naval Staff (Kasal) Admiral TNI Yudo Margono, SE, MM
Panglima Kolinlamil who was present in person to commemorate the 75th Armada Day. as well as to make a working visit to Satlinlamil 2 Surabaya in order to deliver an entry briefing.

In his mandate, Kasal said that along with the dynamics of changing threats and the complexity of the tasks of the Indonesian Navy in the future, the forces of the Indonesian Fleet must continue to be built and strengthened, the elements of the Indonesian Armada forces must be prepared and equipped as a modern force, not only by presenting new Alutsista but as well as comprehensive development including the preparation of human resources, supporting facilities and infrastructure as well as developing doctrine, training and operational tactics.


“Prove to our beloved country that you are soldiers of the Indonesian Navy, the backbone of the country's defense at sea, Jalasena soldiers who proudly bear the motto of Ghora Wira Madya Jala, brave and dignified soldiers in the middle of the ocean. Make your enemies tremble, make your opponents think, it is better for them to be destroyed in the waves and storms than to have to face you, because you are more powerful than waves and storms, ”said Kasal.

On this occasion, six Indonesian Warships (KRI) of the 40 M Fast Patrol and KRI Landing Ship Tank (LST) types were also inaugurated. Patrol boats that are ready to go to sea, including KRI Karotang 872, KRI Mata Bongsang 873, KRI Posepa 870 and KRI Escolar 871. While KRI Teluk Kendari 518 and KRI Teluk Kupang 519 are Landing Ship Tank type ships. Likewise, the inauguration of the Commander of each ship was carried out at the 2020 Indonesian Fleet Day Commemoration Ceremony.


With the theme "Victorious in the Ocean for the Indonesian progress", the ceremony which was held at the Ujung Surabaya pier was simple with standard health protocols according to the conditions of the Covid-19 pandemic. (Ody - Dispen).

 

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Home / TNI / Polri / Kasal visit the Alugoro Submarine

Jakarta, Koranpelita.com
Chief of Navy Staff Admiral TNI Yudo Margono, SE, MM, visited the national shipyard PT. PAL Indonesia (Persero) and observing the KRI Alugoro submarine made by Indonesians in Surabaya, Monday (7/12).

KRI Alugoro is one of the submarines built in collaboration between PT PAL Indonesia and Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) South Korea. This submarine has carried out a functional test. and the plan will be delivered on January 15, 2021 in Ocean Dharma Day.

Kasal's arrival was greeted by the Acting President Director of PT. PAL Indonesia Etty Soewardani, Senior Executive Vice President (SEVP) of PT PAL Rear Admiral TNI (Ret.) Mulyadi, Kabaranahan of the Indonesian Ministry of Defense Air-Vice Marshal TNI Yusuf Jauhari, S.Sos., M.Eng., And Dansatgas of the Domestic Procurement Project for Diesel Electric Submarines ( Yekda DN KSDE) Alugoro, Colonel (T) Budi Raharjo on the ground floor of the PIP building PT. PAL Indonesia.

During the visit to PT PAL Indonesia, after remarks by the Acting Managing Director of PT PAL Indonesia, Kasal watched the profile of PT PAL which is a National Strategic Industry that produces ships both military and commercial.
On this occasion, Kasal also received a presentation on the progress of the construction of the Alugoro Submarine (Kasel) by the Dansatgas Yekda DN KSDE Alugoro.

Kasal in his speech hoped that PT PAL Indonesia would become more advanced and able to compete with manufacturers abroad. In addition, inviting all elements to jointly build and raise PT PAL Indonesia, which is the nation's mainstay, to eliminate dependence on other countries.

"The leaders of this country wish to be able to build sophisticated ships in their own country. The Navy as the user, PT PAL as the builder and the Ministry of Defense as the provider of funds must work together for the glory of our country, "said Kasal.

Also accompanying Kasal in this activity were the Main Officials of the Headquarters, Pangkoarmada II, Pangkolinlamil and Danlantamal V. (ay)



so, clear now. the sub will be handover in 15 january 2021 guys

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1336080043735281664

As usual, take it with a grain of salt... but this comes after the meeting between the acting U.S. secretary of defense Christopher Miller, and Minister of Defense Prabowo Subianto on Monday... So perhaps it's true the rumors that F-16V doesn't really interest us and that we have chosen to go with European jets...

However there should still be other big ticket items that we need to procure from the US... can't really expect us to get the GSP facilities extension for free, can we..? So what to expect...? Well we are also looking for AEW&C, MPA, Tankers and Cargo planes... So B737 Wedgetail, P8 Poseidon, C130J, MV-22 Osprey comes to mind... for Tankers I don't think the KC-46 is really ready yet, so likely we will choose MRTT instead...

For the jets, well... both the Typhoon and Rafale are excellent fighters, but if we are going to be getting both at (almost) the same time is rather... at least for me.. ... but whatever the decision, I hope it will be soon... this saga has been ongoing for too long now...

Home / TNI / Polri / Kasal visit the Alugoro Submarine

Jakarta, Koranpelita.com
Chief of Navy Staff Admiral TNI Yudo Margono, SE, MM, visited the national shipyard PT. PAL Indonesia (Persero) and observing the KRI Alugoro submarine made by Indonesians in Surabaya, Monday (7/12).

KRI Alugoro is one of the submarines built in collaboration between PT PAL Indonesia and Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) South Korea. This submarine has carried out a functional test. and the plan will be delivered on January 15, 2021 in Ocean Dharma Day.
so, clear now. the sub will be handover in 15 january 2021 guys

I hope with the acceptance into TNI AL, there will be no more unsubstantiated rumors regarding it's performance... If it's accepted then it means it should've passed all its tests..

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1336080043735281664

As usual, take it with a grain of salt... but this comes after the meeting between the acting U.S. secretary of defense Christopher Miller, and Minister of Defense Prabowo Subianto on Monday... So perhaps it's true the rumors that F-16V doesn't really interest us and that we have chosen to go with European jets...

However there should still be other big ticket items that we need to procure from the US... can't really expect us to get the GSP facilities extension for free, can we..? So what to expect...? Well we are also looking for AEW&C, MPA, Tankers and Cargo planes... So B737 Wedgetail, P8 Poseidon, C130J, MV-22 Osprey comes to mind... for Tankers I don't think the KC-46 is really ready yet, so likely we will choose MRTT instead...

For the jets, well... both the Typhoon and Rafale are excellent fighters, but if we are going to be getting both at (almost) the same time is rather... at least for me.. ... but whatever the decision, I hope it will be soon... this saga has been ongoing for too long now...


I hope with the acceptance into TNI AL, there will be no more unsubstantiated rumors regarding it's performance... If it's accepted then it means it should've passed all its tests..

For US, I hope we buy 30 AIM 120 C- 7 and 30 AIM 9X plus 15 Amramm and 15 Sidewinder for practice and it should be with TOT as Malaysia even get TOT from their AMRAMM procurement.

We are still lack of missile but so ambitious to buy new fighter.....?

It also needs quite long time before Amram and Sidewinder delivery once we ordered it.

Oya, another 10 AMRAAM and 20 AMRAMM dummy for practice for our NASAM

 

[Whizzack]

For US, I hope we buy 30 AIM 120 C- 7 and 30 AIM 9X plus 10 Amramm and 10 Sidewinder for practice and it should be with TOT as Malaysia even get TOT from their AMRAMM procurement.

We are still lack of missile but so ambitious to buy new fighter.....?

It also needs quite long time before Amram and Sidewinder delivery once we ordered it.

Well I guess procuring missiles, parts, or similar consumable items wouldn't really count as "big ticket items" for the US... With the ongoing upgrading of our Falcon fleet and also NASAMs becoming operational, it's almost a given that we will be buying more Amraams and Sidewinders... I do hope that our next purchase of missiles will be of significant quantities (in the hundreds if possible)...

More airframes are still needed too, afterall missiles don't do patrols... and with the Falcon A/B fleet still in the middle of upgrading, and the C/D fleet planning the same soon after that... we definitely will need more jets to cover our needs...

 

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Sea acceptance tests of the recently accepted LSTs :

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1336441676600995840

I love this. All members here were against me when I said I want us to buy AH-1Z Viper for the Navy. Well it looks like we are indeed interested. Whether it'll come true will be another matter.

 

[Whizzack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1336441676600995840

I love this. All members here were against me when I said I want us to buy AH-1Z Viper for the Navy. Well it looks like we are indeed interested. Whether it'll come true will be another matter.

Indeed... AH-1Z is designed from the beginning for use in maritime environment, so it's also more suitable for longer term operations from forward island bases like the Natunas compared to Apaches I think.. it will definitely be more corrosion resistant.. it will be good if the Navy/Marines can obtain a squadron for deployment from LPDs...

How is the price compared to Apaches..?

 

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Indeed... AH-1Z is designed from the beginning for use in maritime environment, so it's also more suitable for longer term operations from forward island bases like the Natunas compared to Apaches I think.. it will definitely be more corrosion resistant.. it will be good if the Navy/Marines can obtain a squadron for deployment from LPDs...

How is the price compared to Apaches..?

Yes, when I read that we want to relocate some of the Apaches to Natuna I thought Viper should be the one doing this.

Not sure about the price though. It seems that it's cheaper. Fortunately it shares some weapons with Apache.

 

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In addition to CORPAT 2020, the Indonesian and Australian navies also conducted another training in the Anambas archipelago, near the North Natuna Sea.. From TNI AL is KRI Bung Tomo while from RAN is HMAS Ballarat..

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Indonesia gets US nod for F-15 and F-18 fighter jet purchases- Nikkei

 

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Indonesia gets US nod for F-15 and F-18 fighter jet purchases
Verbal agreement was made at meeting this week, defense official says

Two F-15 jets from the 125th Fighter Wing of the Florida Air National Guard perform a flyover on May 13, in Orlando, Florida. © AP
ERWIDA MAULIA, Nikkei staff writerDecember 9, 2020 20:52 JST
JAKARTA -- The U.S. has indicated it will sell F-15 and F-18 fighter jets to Indonesia following months of meetings between top defense officials from the two countries, according to a defense official in Jakarta.
U.S. Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller was in Jakarta on Monday and Tuesday to meet with Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto. During those meetings, Miller agreed to sell the two models of fighter jets to Indonesia, which has long wanted to upgrade from its aging F-16 fleet.
Top of Miller's agenda was the South China Sea, a water where many territorial claims overlap and where China has built military bases. His visit follows Washington's lifting in October of a two-decade entry ban on Subianto over past allegations of human rights violations, allowing him to hold high-level talks with Pentagon officials.

But warming relations between the two countries has put Beijing on edge, according to Rodon Pedrason, director-general of defense strategy at Indonesia's Defense Ministry.
"They asked, 'Why did you accept them?' To which we responded diplomatically. We don't want either China or the U.S. to feel neglected," Pedrason said in a webinar on Tuesday.

Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto, left, walks with acting U.S. Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller as they inspect guards during a meeting in Jakarta on Dec. 7. © AP
Miller also met with Indonesian Military Commander Hadi Tjahjanto and discussed plans to step up training between the two forces.
"The secretary emphasized the importance the [U.S] department of defense places on the bilateral partnership and in securing a free and open South China Sea and Indo-Pacific region," the U.S. embassy said in a press release.
Pedrason said there had been some concerns that U.S. policy might change under Joe Biden, who will be sworn into office as president next month, although he reckoned that Washington would not renege on signed deals.
"It is just a matter of how ready we are to provide the budget," he said. For now, no agreement has been signed.
Indonesia has been pushing the U.S. to sell it F-15, F-18 and F-35 fighter jets, but finally agreed on only two models as the third could take up to 10 years to deliver, Pedrason said. The F-15s and F-18s are manufactured by U.S. aerospace companies McDonnell Douglas and Boeing.
Major powers such as France, Britain, Germany and NATO have also approached Indonesia lately to discuss the South China Sea. Pedrason said Subianto is slated to visit Britain early next year, after having made more than 20 visits over the past year in search for good armament deals, including in France, Russia, Turkey and China.
Manila will be Miller's next stop, after which he will head to Hawaii, from where he will attend a virtual meeting of defense ministers of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and the bloc's partners.
Pedrason said the defense ministry under Subianto has a grand plan of procuring more than 100 superior fighter jets, to add to Indonesia's current fleet of less than 60. "We'll have around 170 fighter jets at the end of it. Extraordinary," Pedrason said.
He did not say when the ministry hopes to achieve that target, but added Indonesia hopes to make available between $9 billion and $11 billion for new weaponry and military equipment over the next 20 years. He said Indonesia was also planning to take soft-loan offers from countries like France, Turkey, China and Russia.
As the deal for the new fighter jets could take years to come to fruition, Indonesia is planning to buy used aircraft such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, which can be delivered much sooner. Previous reports said Subianto was interested in purchasing 15 such aircraft from Austria.
But Pedrason said the plan was only a stopgap.
"It is most urgent for us now to have weaponry that can balance [the power] against red dot countries near us," he added, citing not just the South China Sea but also Indonesia's older border disputes with neighboring Malaysia and Singapore.
Pedrason said the defense ministry is also planning to buy new models of military transport aircraft Hercules, C130J and C130H, manufactured by Lockheed Martin, as well as more submarines and patrol vessels. He added the ministry was planning to train up to 300 fighter jet pilots and around 100 pilots for Hercules over the next two years.
Additional reporting by Ismi Damayanti.