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[¿Por qué?]

How?
Radio emission from aircraft is used to triangulate its position.

You can find it in detail in the official release from the company website here :

- https://www.hensoldt.net/products/radar-iff-and-datalink/twinvis-passive-radar/

and the PDF : https://www.hensoldt.net/fileadmin/...TwInvis_Passive_Radar_datasheet_E_preview.pdf

 

[Nike]

They should also use drone, way safer for observation.

Don't you think this not only carry personnel but everything including drone observer

 

[Gen3115]

USD 402 million for only 1 PKR training? isn't it very expensive? AFAIK the combat PKR cost only USD 220 million for 1 unit. why so much?

Might be because its basically a combat capable PKR but with additional training suites and facilities. If I remember correctly our previous training ship, the KRI Ki Hajar Dewantara-364 was also a combat capable surface combatant at its time but it had additional training facilities, so actually make sense if its more expensive since its basically a dual-purpose ship (surface combatant + training vessel)

 

[Chestnut]

You can find it in detail in the official release from the company website here :

- https://www.hensoldt.net/products/radar-iff-and-datalink/twinvis-passive-radar/

and the PDF : https://www.hensoldt.net/fileadmin/...TwInvis_Passive_Radar_datasheet_E_preview.pdf

I worked with Hensoldt can I can say it likely doesn't work as well as you think it does. I sincerely doubt Hensoldt would freely advertise these sort of capabilities publicly (because that would just incentivize 5th gen producers to amp up development of LOM and other reduced RCS features) unless it is a marketing gimmick.

 

[Chestnut]

I suppose it's still in the very early stage but they claimed that the radar could detect F-35 up to 93 miles (150km) during airshow.

This describes what we exactly need to detect all the F-35s in Singapore. We probably could even monitor them 24x7.

The problem still persist in detecting all of those F-35s in Australia though. Apart from distance, the lack of civilian transmitters around our border could prove vital.

Why do you keep going on and on about trying to detect F-35's? We already share tactical data with the Singaporeans, Australians, and Americans (as part of the CISMOA for the Link 16's) anyways, why should we be buying things to detect a specific aircraft that we are 1.) already on track on buying and 2.) already have data on where they are based and when there are going to be CAP operations in our bordering areas?

 

[Chestnut]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1296965558324342784

*Halls of Montezuma intensifies*

 

[Nike]

USD 402 million for only 1 PKR training? isn't it very expensive? AFAIK the combat PKR cost only USD 220 million for 1 unit. why so much?

The only thing i get it is will be complete package

 

[Cromwell]

i started to thinking that AL really thought the PKR as destroyer , perusak kawal rudal = guided missile "destroyer escort" or can be classified as light frigate , why do they need to use such ww2 classification........

Regardless what navy classifies, PKR is far from being called Destroyer

 

[Gundala]

The problem still persist in detecting all of those F-35s in Australia though

The main issue for F-35 is its range capability, she needs tanker to operate long distance mission. Remember most of the time the mission path is not a direct line but pretty much have to zig-zag to avoid detection from ground sites. In this case US have Stingray

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_MQ-25_Stingray

Idk if Aussie have it but if they dont its going to be tough for a tanker to support her since tanker can be seen clearly in radar. And we also have Kupang which will be filled with future Viper to balance the power.

I think we are on the right path in building formidable IADS, it might be in a turtle speed but at least we are in the right track. Filling the defence with SHORAD first, then MERAD (NASAMS). Once the network centric has been build we can move on to HIMAD and so on.

In this peace era what AU think they need with all those kekurangan is having interceptor/air supperiority fighter to fastly go to the target and identify it. Like I said before, lacking air def system can be covered by having more fighters to build acceptable layer of air def area. Thats why Sukhoi is still needed to fill this gap whether we like it or not until the new replacement come. (I still remember how our pilots "complain" about sukro not so ergonomic seat when sukro first batch came, and how our technician able to replace the seat with F5E seat to give more comfort for our pilot )

 

[umigami]

Why do you keep going on and on about trying to detect F-35's? We already share tactical data with the Singaporeans, Australians, and Americans (as part of the CISMOA for the Link 16's) anyways, why should we be buying things to detect a specific aircraft that we are 1.) already on track on buying and 2.) already have data on where they are based and when there are going to be CAP operations in our bordering areas?

How about capability to track J20?

 

[Chestnut]

That's one thing, I get that we're officially non-aligned but within the context of recent developments, agreements, and other documents and anecdotes shared on this thread alone; I get annoyed at having to explain to every Slavaboo time and time again why we can't buy Russian and how it's not hard to look and see the bigger picture on who is currently the adversary.

 

[Nike]

If it just land system like mortar, artillery or APC/IFV is not problem though, even for something like helicopters, as even pratt and Whitney still delivered their PW207 K turboshaft engines for ansat helicopters in production by Kazan helicopter

 

[gondes]

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[gondes]

The Black on DPM is slowly growing on me not gonna lie.

yeahh.. why don't AD continue use this:

 

[NEKONEKO]

Don't you think this not only carry personnel but everything including drone observer

Is it?
The one without the passenger doors seems used for special purpose.

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