Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

Though in the past Indonesia already had proper destroyer like Skory class, Almirante class and J,N,K class all of them still using heroes name. Only cruiser like Sverdlov class had the honour to bear the name of our major island (Irian).

 

[Nike]

 

[NEKONEKO]

Paling engga personal gear untuk kontingen overseas kita udah lumayan, tinggal melengkapi personel yang di indonesia.
Btw sokongan dana dari un ke kita untuk peace keeper larinya kemana ya.

 

[Nike]

 

[Nilgiri]

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These pics are great!

 

[Nike]

Indonesia Brimob police units in Papua

 

[Nike]

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...pur-bidikan-prabowo-dari-sukhoi-hingga-rafale

 

[Soman45]

Tbh it's quite nice song and video

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[Gen3115]

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...pur-bidikan-prabowo-dari-sukhoi-hingga-rafale

Tough choice if it comes down these 2, you have the Su-35 that has the range, payload, maneuverability, some established infrastructure from current Flankers (armaments stock mostly) but average and some say mediocre sensors and avionics as well as lack of networking and datalink with existing systems and then you have the Rafale with similar range and payload with decent avionics and sensors as well as datalink with most current systems through Link 16 but with the Rafale you literally have to build the infrastructure and support from scratch, everything on the Rafale is exclusively French despite networking capability with other NATO standard systems.

 

[umigami]

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...pur-bidikan-prabowo-dari-sukhoi-hingga-rafale

I think that 4 units are just F16 for "menggenapkan" to be one squadron.
12+12 this year, 4 for 2021, 4 for 2022

 

[Kansel]

Tough choice if it comes down these 2, you have the Su-35 that has the range, payload, maneuverability, some established infrastructure from current Flankers (armaments stock mostly) but average and some say mediocre sensors and avionics and the you have the Rafale with similar range and payload with decent avionics and sensors as well as datalink with most current systems through Link 16 but with the Rafale you literally have to build the infrastructure and support from scratch, everything on the Rafale is exclusively French despite networking capability with other NATO standard systems.

I wouldn't say Rafale avionics is decent tho, their spectra EW is a beast!

 

[Being-Art]

I wouldn't say Rafale avionics is decent tho, their spectra EW is a beast!

Current version of Rafale also has AESA Radar, and could fitted by Meteor BVRAAM, the missile also wants to be fitted at KFX

 

[Chestnut]

Tough choice if it comes down these 2, you have the Su-35 that has the range, payload, maneuverability, some established infrastructure from current Flankers (armaments stock mostly) but average and some say mediocre sensors and avionics and the you have the Rafale with similar range and payload with decent avionics and sensors as well as datalink with most current systems through Link 16 but with the Rafale you literally have to build the infrastructure and support from scratch, everything on the Rafale is exclusively French despite networking capability with other NATO standard systems.

Aight, I'm calling bullshit if they say they can't afford the F-15 or F/A-18 while simultaneously claiming they can buy the Rafale.

For one, French equipment is much more expensive due to economy of scale. And two, the entire support infrastructure would have to be built from scratch to the point it will eat up the operational budget of the F-16 and existing Flankers.

Something is rotten at MinDef.

 

[Nike]

Aight, I'm calling bullshit if they say they can't afford the F-15 or F/A-18 while simultaneously claiming they can buy the Rafale.

For one, French equipment is much more expensive due to economy of scale. And two, the entire support infrastructure would have to be built from scratch to the point it will eat up the operational budget of the F-16 and existing Flankers.

Something is rotten at MinDef.

I think the mindef itself doesnt too entertain Rafale , they more inclined toward more F16V for obvious reason (industrial package and logistic)

 

[Chestnut]

I think the mindef itself doesnt too entertain Rafale , they more inclined toward more F16V for obvious reason (industrial package and logistic)

For the F-5 replacement or the Hawks? I'd agree with you on the Hawks but the F-5 is a whole different story.

Also, someone please tell me I'm being an idiot for bothering to post on local formils and expecting anything but stupid replies.