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Is this ever been shared b4?
Scorpion 90 with new EO, and laser warning system.

Also automated AZP S-60

Answer: Yes, this has been shared before.

The upgrade module for that Scorpion should be applied to our Badak. Badak's cockerill 90LP turret isn't stabilized meanwhile our 1990's scorpion cockerill turret already has stabilization (see video below go to 2:26).
 
Alman said we'll gonna get 24 F16v (not 16) but without weaponry, cft, jhmcs, sniper, etc.
Why not 16 but full spec??
Actually i was gonna talk about this around a week ago. Yes we're getting only 24 F-16 V instead of 32 and those will be divided to 2 Squadrons ( 12 each ) but that part of the story where they will arrive not full specs are twisted for some reason. The FMS to be released will be worth between 6 - 7 Billions USD for 24 F-16 V full specs and armed.
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Spek Persenjataan Iver class Selesai Diputuskan

29 Juni 2020




Kanon utama fregat Iver Huitfeldt class dari Denmark (photo : Naval Analyses)

Pekan lalu beredar kabar di kalangan defense netizen bahwa spesifikasi teknis atas persenjataan fregat Iver Huitfeldt class untuk Angkatan Laut Indonesia telah selesai diputuskan.

Adapun konfigurasi persenjataan fregat Iver Huitfeldt untuk Indonesia adalah :
-1x Leonardo 76 mm, meriam utama,
-1x Rheinmetall Milenium 35 mm, meriam CIWS,
-Leonardo A244/S Mod-3, torpedo,
-MBDA Exocet MM40 Block 3, 8 cells, rudal anti kapal,
-MBDA VL Mica, 16 cells, rudal pertahanan udara,
-2x FN M3 12.7 mm,
-2x Torpedo Decoy System,
Defense Studies telah melakukan konfirmasi pada sumber yang dapat dipercaya bahwa spesifikasi ini benar sebagai persenjataan standar dengan sistem sebagian besar FFBNW (fit for but not with).

Modul Stanflex

Odense Steel Shipyard mendapatkan kontrak konstruksi pembangunan 3 fregat dari Kementerian Pertahanan Denmark pada tahun 2006 senilai USD 850 juta atau senilai USD 283 juta per kapal, kontrak Odense tidak ada hubungannya dengan pengadaan senjata, AAW (anti air warfare) dan integrasi sistem. Integrasi persenjataan dan sensor dilakukan oleh DALO (Denmark's Defence Acquisition and Logistic Organization).





Persenjataan fregat diperoleh dengan melakukan daur ulang atas persenjataan dengan sistem modul Standard Flex (Stanflex) yang sebelumnya digunakan untuk kapal patroli Flyvefisken class, Knud Rasmussen class (OPV) dan Absalaon class (Auxilary Ship). Dari ketiga tipe kapal ini Iver Huitfeldt mendapatkan persenjataan meriam 76mm Oto Melara, peluncur torpedo MU-90, senapan mesin 12,7mm, meriam CIWS Rheinmetall 35mm, peluncur rudal anti kapal Harpoon Block II, dan peluncur rudal anti pesawat jarak pendek RIM-162 ESSM.

Modul StanFlex (juga dikenal sebagai STANFLEX atau Standard Flex) adalah sistem muatan misi modular yang dipergunakan oleh Angkatan Laut Kerajaan Denmark (Kongelige Danske Marine). Dengan adanya stanflex ini maka dalam konstruksi kapal ada pemisahan antara platform (hull) dan payload (mission system). Setiap modul dibungkus kontainer baja tahan karat berukuran panjang 3 meter, lebar 3.5 meter dan tinggi 2.5 meter. Mesin yang presisi memastikan bahwa setiap modul bisa cocok dengan koneksi untuk tenaga listrik, ventilasi, komunikasi, air, dan data. Senjata atau sistem dipasang di atap kontainer, sedangkan mesin-mesin, elektronik dan peralatan pendukung ditempatkan di dalam kontainer. Konsol Standar ditempatkan di ruang Combat Information Centre (Pusat Informasi Tempur).



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Fregat Iver Huifeldt yang pertama terdiri dari 6 modul stanflex, sistem modul ini terus dilakukan pengembangan hingga sekarang bisa didapatkan 12 modul stanflex, dari mulai meriam utama hingga ke RHIB dibuat menjadi modul tersendiri. Dengan adanya modul stanflex ini maka persenjataan fregat ini dapat dibongkar pasang atau dipertukarkan dengan mudah dengan kapal lainnya yang juga memakai modul stanflex dalam waktu yang singkat.

Untuk modul Stanflex ini dalam kontrak pembangunan Iver class versi Indonesia sudah terkonfirmasi tidak masuk.

Komparasi persenjataan standar Iver versi Denmark dan Indonesia

Denmark melakukan daur ulang persenjataan pada fregat Iver Huitfeldt class hampir pada semua persenjataannya karena tersedia stok dan dirawat dengan baik serta dibuatkan modul-modul tersendiri (modul stanflex), itulah sebabnya biaya fregat ini menjadi murah. Indonesia tidak melakukan daur ulang namun membeli baru untuk persenjataan fregat ini.

Antara Denmark dan Indonesia persenjataan standar fregat Iver class adalah serupa, kalaupun ada perbedaan jumlah dan merek itu karena alasan commonality dengan produk sejenis di kapal lainnya, Yang berbeda diantara keduanya adalah rudal VLS nya, berikut adalah komparasi persenjataan selain VLS.




Vertical Launching System

Dengan bobot standar kapal 5.900 ton dan bobot maksimal 6.645 ton tentu saja banyak persenjataan yang dapat ditampung di fregat dengan ukuran dek senjata sekitar 12,0x17,5m ini. Meskipun Iver class versi Denmark dan Indonesia keduanya sama-sama memiliki radar fixed array AESA dengan jangkauan yang cukup jauh namun terlihat ada perbedaan persenjataan versi Denmark dan Indonesia khususnya pada pilihan rudal Vertical Launching System untuk pertahanan udara, kita dapat melihatnya dalam beberapa tahapan.

Tranche 1
Denmark memilih Raytheon RIM-162 ESSM (24 cells) sebagai rudal jarak pendek, karena alasan commonality dengan rudal yang dipakai pada kapal AL Denmark lainnya.
Indonesia memilih rudal MBDA Mica (16 cells) sebagai rudal jarak pendek, karena alasan commonality dengan rudal yang dipakai pada fregat Martadinata class dan Bung Tomo class.

Tranche 2
Denmark memilih Raytheon Standard Missile SM-2 sebagai rudal pertahanan udara jarak menengah setelah memenangkan persaingan dengan MBDA Aster 30 VL. Dalam catatan SIPRI pesanan rudal SM-2 dilakukan pada tahun 2018.
Indonesia belum memilih rudal jarak menengah karena belum ada kapal TNI AL yang dipersenjatai dengan rudal jarak menengah. Namun jika melihat Rencana Kebutuhan TNI AD tahun 2020-2014, salah satu kontestan untuk rudal jarak menegahnya adalah MBDA Aster 30 VL, rupanya peluang untuk commonality rudal pertahanan udara jarak menengah ada disini.

Tranche 3
Pada tahapan ini AL Denmark akan melakukan penggantian meriam utama dari kaliber 76mm menjadi kaliber 127mm yang diikuti dengan penambahan rudal jelajah serang darat Tomahawk, tentu saja sebagai anggota NATO Denmark bisa mendapatkannya.
Masih belum jelas apakah Indonesia akan berhenti dengan tranche 2 atau meneruskan persenjataan kapal ini untuk menjadi destroyer dengan beberapa tambahan persenjataan.

Dengan telah selesainya pemilihan atas paket persenjataan, paket sensor, serta paket Combat Management System maka fregat Iver Huitfeldt class untuk Indonesia telah siap untuk dibuat di galangan kapal PT PAL Surabaya.

(Defense Studies)
http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/06/spek-persenjataan-iver-class-selesai.html

So the weapons configuration from Alman tweet is confirmed and no Stanflex module in our Iver variant....well i think this is the best for us at least for now
Don't take any conclusion so fast, this article AFAIK is written by blogger in response from a tweet. While indeed i must admit due to MBDA armaments there will be no Stanflex modules on our Iver variant that part where we're getting only 1 CIWS, 16 SAM Cell, 8 AShM are distorded informations for unknown reason. The specs while indeed will use MBDA platforms aren't even finalised yet in term of quantities, there can never be our Iver will be similar on those of PKR. It's interesting someone is acting on behalf of Netherlands ( no need to hide any longer ) and still trying to push that FFI
 
Actually i was gonna talk about this around a week ago. Yes we're getting only 24 F-16 V instead of 32 and those will be divided to 2 Squadrons ( 12 each ) but that part of the story where they will arrive not full specs are twisted for some reason. The FMS to be released will be worth between 6 - 7 Billions USD for 24 F-16 V full specs and armed.
Meanwhile;
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Don't take any conclusion so fast, this article AFAIK is written by blogger in response from a tweet. While indeed i must admit due to MBDA armaments there will be no Stanflex modules on our Iver variant that part where we're getting only 1 CIWS, 16 SAM Cell, 8 AShM are distorded informations for unknown reason. The specs while indeed will use MBDA platforms aren't even finalised yet in term of quantities, there can never be our Iver will be similar on those of PKR. It's interesting someone is acting on behalf of Netherlands ( no need to hide any longer ) and still trying to push that FFI
Thank you for the information,
Is that true that our varian are not with stanflex module? Is it budget reason we don't buy with stanflex module?
 
Thank you for the information,
Is that true that our varian are not with stanflex module? Is it budget reason we don't buy with stanflex module?

We don't follow Danish version as Indonesia need stand by at ready warships with armament being fitted at the ships not on module in warehouse. If they want to refit the system they Will refit when doing MLU program
 
Actually i was gonna talk about this around a week ago. Yes we're getting only 24 F-16 V instead of 32 and those will be divided to 2 Squadrons ( 12 each ) but that part of the story where they will arrive not full specs are twisted for some reason. The FMS to be released will be worth between 6 - 7 Billions USD for 24 F-16 V full specs and armed.
Meanwhile;
View attachment 645977


Don't take any conclusion so fast, this article AFAIK is written by blogger in response from a tweet. While indeed i must admit due to MBDA armaments there will be no Stanflex modules on our Iver variant that part where we're getting only 1 CIWS, 16 SAM Cell, 8 AShM are distorded informations for unknown reason. The specs while indeed will use MBDA platforms aren't even finalised yet in term of quantities, there can never be our Iver will be similar on those of PKR. It's interesting someone is acting on behalf of Netherlands ( no need to hide any longer ) and still trying to push that FFI
Glad to hear that.
That caatsa thing you mentioned. Is that an article?
Source?
 
Thank you for the information,
Is that true that our varian are not with stanflex module? Is it budget reason we don't buy with stanflex module?
Stanflex modules are for Raytheon products not MBDA

Glad to hear that.
That caatsa thing you mentioned. Is that an article?
Source?
Combat Aircraft magazine June 2020 edition page 75th. The PDF are too heavy to upload i'll just share the part which relates with Indonesia
 
We don't follow Danish version as Indonesia need stand by at ready warships with armament being fitted at the ships not on module in warehouse. If they want to refit the system they Will refit when doing MLU program
and that's going to take a very long time
 
Actually i was gonna talk about this around a week ago. Yes we're getting only 24 F-16 V instead of 32 and those will be divided to 2 Squadrons ( 12 each ) but that part of the story where they will arrive not full specs are twisted for some reason. The FMS to be released will be worth between 6 - 7 Billions USD for 24 F-16 V full specs and armed.

Good to hear that. Just put SU35 in a box for now and see how the political change in US will bring in a future, we can always look back at it anytime in a future. Again like I said; introducing Viper will be a technology leap for both pilots and technicians. This would make us ready for future technology upgrade to handle F35 while building our own network centric in the process as well. I personally love to have 24 viper fully spec & armed better than 36 with moderate to low spec and weapons. I just hope we are getting the CFT, having only one tanker plane is already bad, not getting CFT for Viper is even worse imho.
 
Good to hear that. Just put SU35 in a box for now and see how the political change in US will bring in a future, we can always look back at it anytime in a future. Again like I said; introducing Viper will be a technology leap for both pilots and technicians. This would make us ready for future technology upgrade to handle F35 while building our own network centric in the process as well. I personally love to have 24 viper fully spec & armed better than 36 with moderate to low spec and weapons. I just hope we are getting the CFT, having only one tanker plane is already bad, not getting CFT for Viper is even worse imho.
We're getting a couple of MRTT that's for sure and indeed we're on the path as F-35 operator though recent article on indomiliter about F/A-18 Block III Super Hornet seems interesting
 
We're getting a couple of MRTT that's for sure and indeed we're on the path as F-35 operator though recent article on indomiliter about F/A-18 Block III Super Hornet seems interesting
Are we getting MRRT now? Or next MEF?
ga ada gaungnya...
 

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