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There is crash program for Indigenous design of OPV/patrol corvettes, this one will be the candidate to replace the Parchim class
There was article in foreign military magazine more than decade ago said that parchim class needed to replaced by OPV.

Eventhough some people said KCR will replace Parchim class, I still believe bigger tonnage like OPV is better as a replacement for them Parchim class.
 
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Parchim will be replaced by Diponegoro-Class, wasn't that the original plan?
 
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There was article in foreign military magazine more than decade ago said that parchim class needed to replaced by OPV.

Eventhough some people said KCR will replace Parchim class, I still believe bigger tonnage like OPV is better as a replacement for them Parchim class.

I bet they dont need state of art techies, something like SAAB CEROS 200 3d , BAe 57 mm bofor gun, Therma ECM and ESM, LEN made CMS is more than enough. Coupled with provision for Captas and hull mounted sonar. For AShM, hope they can complete the indigineous version of C705.


Parchim will be replaced by Diponegoro-Class, wasn't that the original plan?

Not really, Diponegoro class is to replace tribal class and claude jones class
 
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Densus 88 antiterror squad arrests 16-year-old in Batam
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Batam / Sat, May 23, 2020 / 03:20 pm
The National Police’s Densus 88 counterterrorism squad pacfiy suspected terrorists in a simulation exercise at the East Java Police headquarters in Surabaya, East Java. (JP/Wahyoe Boediwardhana)


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The National Police's Densus 88 counterterrorism squad arrested a 16-year-old boy in his house in Merapi Subur housing complex in Batam, Riau Islands on Wednesday evening. Recent arrests also occurred in Tasikmalaya, West Java and Kendal in Central Java.

The neighborhood unit (RT) head of the housing complex, Adip Kurniawan, told The Jakarta Post that personnel of the squad and from the Riau Islands Police arrested the boy and he was taken to the Riau Islands Police headquarters.

Adip said the terrorism suspect was the eldest of two siblings and the family had just rented the house in March.


“They’re new here and they’re friendly, but the one arrested is a child,” Adip said.

Riau Islands Police chief Insp. Gen. Aris Budiman confirmed the arrest during his inspection of Idul Fitri holiday security. “So far, the security in Riau Islands and Batam is under control,” he said.

Aris, however, did not divulge more information about the teenager’s arrest.

In 2016, Densus 88 unraveled a terrorist network calling itself Katibah Gonggong Rebus (KGR), led by 31-year-old Gigih Rahmat Dewa in Batam. The police said they once planned to shoot a rocket to Marina Bay in Singapore from Batam.

Gonggong rebus” is actually the name of a Batam dish of boiled snails.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news...error-squad-arrests-16-year-old-in-batam.html
 
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This is one of the reason we should still be in KFX/IFX program

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Claims American Fighters Are Only Useful for Airshows - Why F-18s Can’t Fight Without Washington’s Permission

In an interview with Qatari news outlet Al Jazeera, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad provided insight into his country’s experience operating American manufactured F-18 Hornet fighter jets and the considerable limitations imposed on operations by Washington. The Royal Malaysian Air Force currently operates three classes of fighter, including the high end heavyweight Russian Su-30MKM as its most modern platform and small numbers of older medium weight F-18 and MiG-29 platforms. Mahathir noted regarding the terms imposed by the U.S. on clients for its fighter aircraft that the source codes for the jets were not provided, meaning: “we cannot program the plane for any attacks against other countries without getting the programming done by Americans. So although the planes are very good, in terms of performance very powerful engines, but we cannot program the plane by ourselves. You have to refer to the United States for putting the program for any raid on foreign countries for example. So our planes were costly. We have them. We can fly them at airshows. But we cannot use them to fight any other country because we don’t get the source code.”


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F-18 Medium Fighter

Mahathir further elaborated: “The way they treated Malaysia as a buyer of the F-18, we find that the planes are only good for airshows. But we cannot program it for, say, attacks against other countries or for any other use. That is the experience of Malaysia. But I suspect that other countries also did not get the source codes… the planes are not really a weapon that you can control. The control is with the Americans.” He noted that European states may be provided with source codes, but indicated that few non-Western states would, and that even munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government. The interviewer thus concluded that clients for F-16 of F-18 fighters “can only use them against targets designated by the United States, not targets that they themselves would like to hit.”

article_5ec51e217e9ee0_90767606.jpg

Su-57 and MiG-35 Next Generation Fighters

Mahathir’s statement has considerable implications given that Malaysia is currently considering purchasing a new generation of fighter jets to replace its F-18, MiG-29 and possibly even the Su-30. Kuala Lumpur has previously indicated an interest in the Russian MiG-35 and Su-57 next generation medium and heavyweight fighters, and Russia has offered to purchase its MiG-29s second hand to help offset the cost of a MiG-35 purchase. The Su-57 is likely to replace the Su-30MKM in future, although given the older platform’s still viable capabilities there is less of an urgent need to make such a purchase. While other countries operating the F-18 have sought to replace them either with the F-18E Super Hornet or the F-35A Lightning II platforms, the Prime Minister’s account of Malaysia’s experience with the Hornet indicates that future purchases of American fighters are unlikely. The F-18 could instead be replaced by more MiG-35 fighters, which are from the same weight range but have a lower operational cost and superior combat performance across the spectrum. Unlike U.S. aircraft, Russian fighters do not have similar restrictions on their use meaning countries can deploy them far more freely without political dependance on Moscow.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...s-can-t-fight-without-washington-s-permission
 
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This is one of the reason we should still be in KFX/IFX program

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Claims American Fighters Are Only Useful for Airshows - Why F-18s Can’t Fight Without Washington’s Permission

In an interview with Qatari news outlet Al Jazeera, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad provided insight into his country’s experience operating American manufactured F-18 Hornet fighter jets and the considerable limitations imposed on operations by Washington. The Royal Malaysian Air Force currently operates three classes of fighter, including the high end heavyweight Russian Su-30MKM as its most modern platform and small numbers of older medium weight F-18 and MiG-29 platforms. Mahathir noted regarding the terms imposed by the U.S. on clients for its fighter aircraft that the source codes for the jets were not provided, meaning: “we cannot program the plane for any attacks against other countries without getting the programming done by Americans. So although the planes are very good, in terms of performance very powerful engines, but we cannot program the plane by ourselves. You have to refer to the United States for putting the program for any raid on foreign countries for example. So our planes were costly. We have them. We can fly them at airshows. But we cannot use them to fight any other country because we don’t get the source code.”


article_5ec51dfc204372_58883857.jpeg

F-18 Medium Fighter

Mahathir further elaborated: “The way they treated Malaysia as a buyer of the F-18, we find that the planes are only good for airshows. But we cannot program it for, say, attacks against other countries or for any other use. That is the experience of Malaysia. But I suspect that other countries also did not get the source codes… the planes are not really a weapon that you can control. The control is with the Americans.” He noted that European states may be provided with source codes, but indicated that few non-Western states would, and that even munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government. The interviewer thus concluded that clients for F-16 of F-18 fighters “can only use them against targets designated by the United States, not targets that they themselves would like to hit.”

article_5ec51e217e9ee0_90767606.jpg

Su-57 and MiG-35 Next Generation Fighters

Mahathir’s statement has considerable implications given that Malaysia is currently considering purchasing a new generation of fighter jets to replace its F-18, MiG-29 and possibly even the Su-30. Kuala Lumpur has previously indicated an interest in the Russian MiG-35 and Su-57 next generation medium and heavyweight fighters, and Russia has offered to purchase its MiG-29s second hand to help offset the cost of a MiG-35 purchase. The Su-57 is likely to replace the Su-30MKM in future, although given the older platform’s still viable capabilities there is less of an urgent need to make such a purchase. While other countries operating the F-18 have sought to replace them either with the F-18E Super Hornet or the F-35A Lightning II platforms, the Prime Minister’s account of Malaysia’s experience with the Hornet indicates that future purchases of American fighters are unlikely. The F-18 could instead be replaced by more MiG-35 fighters, which are from the same weight range but have a lower operational cost and superior combat performance across the spectrum. Unlike U.S. aircraft, Russian fighters do not have similar restrictions on their use meaning countries can deploy them far more freely without political dependance on Moscow.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...s-can-t-fight-without-washington-s-permission

Mahatir should know, the spearhead of RMAF is their Hornet fleets, not their Flanker. Even during standoff in Lahad Datu it was the Hornet who delivered the ordnance, not the Flanker. And, there is much political bullshit in the Mahatir statements
 
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I bet they dont need state of art techies, something like SAAB CEROS 200 3d , BAe 57 mm bofor gun, Therma ECM and ESM, LEN made CMS is more than enough. Coupled with provision for Captas and hull mounted sonar. For AShM, hope they can complete the indigineous version of C705.

Not really, Diponegoro class is to replace tribal class and claude jones class

I'm curious about the definition of OPV in our navy playbook (ship specification, operational doctrine, mission profile, etc). Apakah bagi AL OPV masuk kategori principle surface combatant?
 
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I'm curious about the definition of OPV in our navy playbook (ship specification, operational doctrine, mission profile, etc). Apakah bagi AL OPV masuk kategori principle surface combatant?

they should bore KRI prefix, so they are included on principle surface combatant.
 
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This is one of the reason we should still be in KFX/IFX program

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Claims American Fighters Are Only Useful for Airshows - Why F-18s Can’t Fight Without Washington’s Permission

In an interview with Qatari news outlet Al Jazeera, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad provided insight into his country’s experience operating American manufactured F-18 Hornet fighter jets and the considerable limitations imposed on operations by Washington. The Royal Malaysian Air Force currently operates three classes of fighter, including the high end heavyweight Russian Su-30MKM as its most modern platform and small numbers of older medium weight F-18 and MiG-29 platforms. Mahathir noted regarding the terms imposed by the U.S. on clients for its fighter aircraft that the source codes for the jets were not provided, meaning: “we cannot program the plane for any attacks against other countries without getting the programming done by Americans. So although the planes are very good, in terms of performance very powerful engines, but we cannot program the plane by ourselves. You have to refer to the United States for putting the program for any raid on foreign countries for example. So our planes were costly. We have them. We can fly them at airshows. But we cannot use them to fight any other country because we don’t get the source code.”


article_5ec51dfc204372_58883857.jpeg

F-18 Medium Fighter

Mahathir further elaborated: “The way they treated Malaysia as a buyer of the F-18, we find that the planes are only good for airshows. But we cannot program it for, say, attacks against other countries or for any other use. That is the experience of Malaysia. But I suspect that other countries also did not get the source codes… the planes are not really a weapon that you can control. The control is with the Americans.” He noted that European states may be provided with source codes, but indicated that few non-Western states would, and that even munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government. The interviewer thus concluded that clients for F-16 of F-18 fighters “can only use them against targets designated by the United States, not targets that they themselves would like to hit.”

article_5ec51e217e9ee0_90767606.jpg

Su-57 and MiG-35 Next Generation Fighters

Mahathir’s statement has considerable implications given that Malaysia is currently considering purchasing a new generation of fighter jets to replace its F-18, MiG-29 and possibly even the Su-30. Kuala Lumpur has previously indicated an interest in the Russian MiG-35 and Su-57 next generation medium and heavyweight fighters, and Russia has offered to purchase its MiG-29s second hand to help offset the cost of a MiG-35 purchase. The Su-57 is likely to replace the Su-30MKM in future, although given the older platform’s still viable capabilities there is less of an urgent need to make such a purchase. While other countries operating the F-18 have sought to replace them either with the F-18E Super Hornet or the F-35A Lightning II platforms, the Prime Minister’s account of Malaysia’s experience with the Hornet indicates that future purchases of American fighters are unlikely. The F-18 could instead be replaced by more MiG-35 fighters, which are from the same weight range but have a lower operational cost and superior combat performance across the spectrum. Unlike U.S. aircraft, Russian fighters do not have similar restrictions on their use meaning countries can deploy them far more freely without political dependance on Moscow.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...s-can-t-fight-without-washington-s-permission


I support the KFX/IFX program and I really think we should commit to it, but I would seriously take this site with a grain of salt, I've interacted with the alleged author/writer of the site, he's kinda biased against American and Western jets despite having decent arguments
 
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This is one of the reason we should still be in KFX/IFX program

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Claims American Fighters Are Only Useful for Airshows - Why F-18s Can’t Fight Without Washington’s Permission

In an interview with Qatari news outlet Al Jazeera, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad provided insight into his country’s experience operating American manufactured F-18 Hornet fighter jets and the considerable limitations imposed on operations by Washington. The Royal Malaysian Air Force currently operates three classes of fighter, including the high end heavyweight Russian Su-30MKM as its most modern platform and small numbers of older medium weight F-18 and MiG-29 platforms. Mahathir noted regarding the terms imposed by the U.S. on clients for its fighter aircraft that the source codes for the jets were not provided, meaning: “we cannot program the plane for any attacks against other countries without getting the programming done by Americans. So although the planes are very good, in terms of performance very powerful engines, but we cannot program the plane by ourselves. You have to refer to the United States for putting the program for any raid on foreign countries for example. So our planes were costly. We have them. We can fly them at airshows. But we cannot use them to fight any other country because we don’t get the source code.”


article_5ec51dfc204372_58883857.jpeg

F-18 Medium Fighter

Mahathir further elaborated: “The way they treated Malaysia as a buyer of the F-18, we find that the planes are only good for airshows. But we cannot program it for, say, attacks against other countries or for any other use. That is the experience of Malaysia. But I suspect that other countries also did not get the source codes… the planes are not really a weapon that you can control. The control is with the Americans.” He noted that European states may be provided with source codes, but indicated that few non-Western states would, and that even munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government. The interviewer thus concluded that clients for F-16 of F-18 fighters “can only use them against targets designated by the United States, not targets that they themselves would like to hit.”

article_5ec51e217e9ee0_90767606.jpg

Su-57 and MiG-35 Next Generation Fighters

Mahathir’s statement has considerable implications given that Malaysia is currently considering purchasing a new generation of fighter jets to replace its F-18, MiG-29 and possibly even the Su-30. Kuala Lumpur has previously indicated an interest in the Russian MiG-35 and Su-57 next generation medium and heavyweight fighters, and Russia has offered to purchase its MiG-29s second hand to help offset the cost of a MiG-35 purchase. The Su-57 is likely to replace the Su-30MKM in future, although given the older platform’s still viable capabilities there is less of an urgent need to make such a purchase. While other countries operating the F-18 have sought to replace them either with the F-18E Super Hornet or the F-35A Lightning II platforms, the Prime Minister’s account of Malaysia’s experience with the Hornet indicates that future purchases of American fighters are unlikely. The F-18 could instead be replaced by more MiG-35 fighters, which are from the same weight range but have a lower operational cost and superior combat performance across the spectrum. Unlike U.S. aircraft, Russian fighters do not have similar restrictions on their use meaning countries can deploy them far more freely without political dependance on Moscow.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...s-can-t-fight-without-washington-s-permission
Matathir is talking out of his ***. He's only saying this for political points. Literally the only planes left flying in his gimped Air Force are his US jets and they have been supplied with all the things that they need to respond to any threat 24/7.

Also..

"munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government."

Same goes for any other country that supplies weapons.
 
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I support the KFX/IFX program and I really think we should commit to it, but I would seriously take this site with a grain of salt, I've interacted with the alleged author/writer of the site, he's kinda biased against American and Western jets despite having decent arguments
Matathir is talking out of his ***. He's only saying this for political points. Literally the only planes left flying in his gimped Air Force are his US jets and they have been supplied with all the things that they need to respond to any threat 24/7.

Also..

"munitions for the F-18s could not be purchased to update the aircraft without approval from the U.S. government."

Same goes for any other country that supplies weapons.

The site quote Mahathir statement from Aljazeera and so we should find the original article from Aljazeera to prove the content, but the notion saying that US fighter buyer cannot get source code is possibly true since even USA doesnt give source code of F35 to his close partner in F35 program either. It is important for upgrade and (possibly) changing and controling IFF instrument.

The importance thing to discuss is whether source code is really crucial for attacking role of the aircraft into the extend it can possibly prevent the user to launch the missile to, lets say, another US made fighters if they dont know the source code. I am not an expert on this so we need this discussion further whether the unknowing of the source code can limit attack capability of the aircraft.

Alman Helvas also has brought this problem to surface although it is not clear whether he actually get the information from source in his Air force contact or maybe he just read the same article we are reading now. He needs to clarify this ASAP since as defense journalist who was once working in Jane Defense he should have extensive insider from our Airforce people and broad international friends and contact who understand the detail.

U.S. to withhold F-35 fighter software code
Jim Wolf


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will keep to itself sensitive software code that controls Lockheed Martin Corp’s new radar-evading F-35 fighter jet despite requests from partner countries, a senior Pentagon program official said.

Access to the technology had been publicly sought by Britain, which had threatened to scrub plans to buy as many as 138 F-35s if it were unable to maintain and upgrade its fleet without U.S. involvement.

No other country is getting the so-called source code, the key to the plane’s electronic brains, Jon Schreiber, who heads the program’s international affairs, told Reuters in an interview Monday.

“That includes everybody,” he said, acknowledging this was not overly popular among the eight that have co-financed F-35 development — Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Norway.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...5-fighter-software-code-idUSTRE5AO01F20091125
 
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The site quote Mahathir statement from Aljazeera and so we should find the original article from Aljazeera to prove the content, but the notion saying that US fighter buyer cannot get source code is possibly true since even USA doesnt give source code of F35 to his close partner in F35 program either. It is important for upgrade and (possibly) changing and controling IFF instrument.

The importance thing to discuss is whether source code is really crucial for attacking role of the aircraft into the extend it can possibly prevent the user to launch the missile to, lets say, another US made fighters if they dont know the source code. I am not an expert on this so we need this discussion further whether the unknowing of the source code can limit attack capability of the aircraft.

Alman Helvas also has brought this problem to surface although it is not clear whether he actually get the information from source in his Air force contact or maybe he just read the same article we are reading now. He needs to clarify this ASAP since as defense journalist who was once working in Jane Defense he should have extensive insider from our Airforce people and broad international friends and contact who understand the detail.

U.S. to withhold F-35 fighter software code
Jim Wolf


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will keep to itself sensitive software code that controls Lockheed Martin Corp’s new radar-evading F-35 fighter jet despite requests from partner countries, a senior Pentagon program official said.

Access to the technology had been publicly sought by Britain, which had threatened to scrub plans to buy as many as 138 F-35s if it were unable to maintain and upgrade its fleet without U.S. involvement.

No other country is getting the so-called source code, the key to the plane’s electronic brains, Jon Schreiber, who heads the program’s international affairs, told Reuters in an interview Monday.

“That includes everybody,” he said, acknowledging this was not overly popular among the eight that have co-financed F-35 development — Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Norway.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...5-fighter-software-code-idUSTRE5AO01F20091125

Better yet I have the video of Mahathir saying it

The source codes are only needed if you're a country like Israel who wants to modify their jets and do stuff like integrating their own missiles, etc. If you're not going to and don't even have the capability of modifying the jets like for example the Israelis do then why bother wanting the source codes?

Also regarding the source codes being required to fire the missiles, I don't think its true, Pakistan was able to use AIM-120's against Indian MiG's and Su-30MKI during the 2019 Skirmish, to the point where the Indians had proof of it and they arguably performed better than the R-77's the IAF had at the time, I mean do you really think if the AIM-120's required Washington's permission to be fired, the PAF would easily be allowed to use it against the IAF? Again the source codes aren't for being able to fire the missiles, its for integrating the missiles into the jets (CMIIW).

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...issiles-were-used-by-pakistan-in-aerial-brawl

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-16s-shot-down-in-indian-battle-idUSKCN1RH0IM
 
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Better yet I have the video of Mahathir saying it

The source codes are only needed if you're a country like Israel who wants to modify their jets and do stuff like integrating their own missiles, etc. If you're not going to and don't even have the capability of modifying the jets like for example the Israelis do then why bother wanting the source codes?

Also regarding the source codes being required to fire the missiles, I don't think its true, Pakistan was able to use AIM-120's against Indian MiG's and Su-30MKI during the 2019 Skirmish, to the point where the Indians had proof of it and they arguably performed better than the R-77's the IAF had at the time, I mean do you really think if the AIM-120's required Washington's permission to be fired, the PAF would easily be allowed to use it against the IAF? Again the source codes aren't for being able to fire the missiles, its for integrating the missiles into the jets (CMIIW).

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...issiles-were-used-by-pakistan-in-aerial-brawl

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-16s-shot-down-in-indian-battle-idUSKCN1RH0IM
Yeah, source code is only for integration. Which is more or less Intellectual Property related and is not unique to the US. China, Russia, Europe, etc. all do the same thing.
 
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