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[MarveL]

Indonesia to Posses Anti-Submarine Choppers

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The Indonesian Navy is to receive AS565 Panther anti-submarine helicopters that it has requested to the Defense Ministry.

"We have requested for a squadron (16 choppers). Yet we do not know for sure when they will arrive [in the country]," said First Admiral Untung Suropati, the chief of Information Department of the Indonesian Navy.

Untung said the Navy had yet to posses this sort of choppers, adding that the Eurocopter-made choppers had the ability to detect submarines and torpedoes.

He said the Navy planned to place the anti-submarine Panthers onboard its battleships to enhance the fighting skills of the ships.

“So it can be said that our philosophy on helicopters differs from those of the Air Force,” he said.

Indonesian Navy to Posses Anti-submarine Choppers | National | Tempo.Co :: Indonesian News Portal

ada hubunganya sama heli dolphin oranye yang disulap kemaren?


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PT DI to Build Heli Panther for Navy

PT DI Akan Bangun Heli Panther untuk TNI AL

Varian AS-565 Panther dengan peralatan dipping sonar (photo : CMA)

TEMPO.CO , Jakarta - PT Dirgantara Indonesia akan mendukung keinginan Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Laut menambah kekuatan helikopter anti-kapal selam. Perusahaan pembuat pesawat dan helikopter lokal itu pun setuju dengan pilihan TNI AL pada helikopter Eurocopter AS565 Panther.

Bahkan PT DI ikut merekomendasikan nama helikopter tersebut ke Kementerian Pertahanan. "Helikopter ini paling cocok untuk TNI AL," kata Direktur Teknologi Penerbangan PT DI Andi Alisjahbana melalui pesan pendek kepada Tempo, Rabu, 30 April 2014.

Alasannya, helikopter Panther ini sangat cocok dioperasikan di atas dek kapal perang. Bahkan, helikopter ini sudah digunakan oleh pasukan penjaga pantai Amerika Serikat atau US Coast Guard.

Alasan lain, PT DI sudah menjalin kerja sama dengan pabrikan Eurocopter sejak 1974. Saat ini, PT DI memegang lisensi perakitan helikopter produksi Eurocopter Superpuma, Fennec, dan BO 105.

Selain itu, PT DI baru saja mendapat lisensi pembuatan helikopter Dauphin yang belum lama ini sudah diserahkan ke Badan SAR Nasional. "Helikopter Panther itu cuma nama militer dari Dauphin," katanya. Walhasil, PT DI mampu membuat helikopter Panther yang tak jauh beda dengan Dauphin.

Untuk Panther versi militer, Andi melanjutkan, PT Dirgantara Indonesia siap memasangkan alat khusus untuk memburu kapal selam musuh yang disebut dipping sonar. Alat tersebut merupakan radar pencari kapal selam yang digunakan di dalam air. Sonar ini menangkap suara pergerakan mesin dan baling-baling kapal selam di dalam air.

"Disebut dipping karena alat ini dipasang di helikopter lalu ketika hovering (melayang), alat itu diturunkan masuk ke dalam air untuk bisa mendeteksi suara kapal selam," katanya.

Sayangnya, Andi belum mau membicarakan nominal harga helikopter anti-kapal selam Panther. Namun sumber Tempo di Kementerian Pertahanan mengatakan per unit helikopter Panther dihargai US$ 21,27 juta. "Rencana pembelian antara 11-16 unit," kata seorang sumber yang enggan disebut namanya.

PT DI Akan Bangun Heli Panther untuk TNI AL Â | -nasional- | Tempo.co

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

5 Oktober nanti bakalan ada Apache di Monas gak yach ?

If im not mistaken, the delivery schedule is 2017

Lagipula calon pilotnya baru mulai training dan Apache kan butuh penyesuaian dgn lensa monocular utk nightvision / cam di mata kanan dan mata kiri utk liat instrumen.

 

[MarveL]

DEFENSE STUDIES

 

[Nike]

If im not mistaken, the delivery schedule is 2017

Lagipula calon pilotnya baru mulai training dan Apache kan butuh penyesuaian dgn lensa monocular utk nightvision / cam di mata kanan dan mata kiri utk liat instrumen.

kan ada plastidip om

 

[Hakan]

Indonesian Navy to acquire 16 ASW helicopters

The Indonesian Navy (Tentera Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) is to acquire 16 AS565 Panther anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters from Airbus Helicopters, it announced on 28 April.

"The contract is in the final stages of being approved by the defence ministry. However, we are not able to give a timeline as to when the helicopters will be delivered", said Vice Admiral Untong Suropati, the TNI-AL's head of communications. He added that the aim is to embark the aircraft on vessels such as the SIGMA 10514-class guided-missile corvettes.

According to the TNI-AL, the decision to purchase the AS565 was made at the recommendation of aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), which will be involved in the production of the aircraft. PTDI has previously worked with Airbus on the manufacture of CN235 medium transport aircraft.

A PTDI spokesperson told IHS Jane's on 2 May that the company will be working with Airbus Helicopters in manufacturing the airframes and dipping sonar equipment. PTDI and Airbus Helicopters may produce all 16 aircraft in Bandung. Details for any joint production arrangements will be finalised once the contract has been confirmed by TNI-AL.

COMMENT
The navy's ASW helicopter requirement is one element of Jakarta's ongoing programme to develop what it calls a 'Minimum Essential Force' (MEF), which also includes the development of a defence industrial base through transfer of technology (ToT), joint production and joint development.

Divided into three phases - 2010-2014, 2015-2019, and 2020-2024 - the navy's procurements include the ASW helicopter; the phased mid-life modernisation of two corvettes for an estimated USD100 million; two hydrographic and oceanographic research ships (USD100 million); a new sail training ship (USD80 million); and two CN 235 maritime patrol aircraft (USD60 million).

The naval air arm is organised into two wings: Udara 1 at Juanda (the main training base) and Udara 2 at Tanjung Pinang. The most modern helicopters in service are four Bell 412 EP helicopters delivered in 2012. In 2011 the navy said that the Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite was a contender for the helicopter requirement; this was likely due to the availability of SH-2Gs that were ordered and then cancelled by Australia - these aircraft have since been purchased by New Zealand.

The requirement for ASW helicopters reflects the increase in subsurface fleets in Southeast Asia. Singapore is expanding its submarine fleet from four to six boats with the procurement of two Type 218SGs from ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, while Vietnam recently received the first two of six 'Kilo'-class boats from Russia. Indonesia itself is purchasing three Chang Bogo-class diesel-electric attack submarines from South Korea, while China's ongoing naval build-up includes attack and ballistic missile submarines.

Indonesian Navy to acquire 16 ASW helicopters - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Thanks for the update bro MarveL, but i think the image for Helicopter Full Combat SAR (Showing Blackhawk helo at bottom right) is wrong, they should put image of EC-725 Cougar

 

[Nike]

Thanks for the update bro MarveL, but i think the image for Helicopter Full Combat SAR (Showing Blackhawk helo at bottom right) is wrong, they should put image of EC-725 Cougar

You will found several flaws at Those pics or info graphic

For example, an Leopard1

 

[Zarvan]

Indonesia to Posses Anti-Submarine Choppers

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The Indonesian Navy is to receive AS565 Panther anti-submarine helicopters that it has requested to the Defense Ministry.

"We have requested for a squadron (16 choppers). Yet we do not know for sure when they will arrive [in the country]," said First Admiral Untung Suropati, the chief of Information Department of the Indonesian Navy.

Untung said the Navy had yet to posses this sort of choppers, adding that the Eurocopter-made choppers had the ability to detect submarines and torpedoes.

He said the Navy planned to place the anti-submarine Panthers onboard its battleships to enhance the fighting skills of the ships.

“So it can be said that our philosophy on helicopters differs from those of the Air Force,” he said.

Indonesian Navy to Posses Anti-submarine Choppers | National | Tempo.Co :: Indonesian News Portal

ada hubunganya sama heli dolphin oranye yang disulap kemaren?


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PT DI to Build Heli Panther for Navy
PT DI Akan Bangun Heli Panther untuk TNI AL

Varian AS-565 Panther dengan peralatan dipping sonar (photo : CMA)

TEMPO.CO , Jakarta - PT Dirgantara Indonesia akan mendukung keinginan Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Laut menambah kekuatan helikopter anti-kapal selam. Perusahaan pembuat pesawat dan helikopter lokal itu pun setuju dengan pilihan TNI AL pada helikopter Eurocopter AS565 Panther.

Bahkan PT DI ikut merekomendasikan nama helikopter tersebut ke Kementerian Pertahanan. "Helikopter ini paling cocok untuk TNI AL," kata Direktur Teknologi Penerbangan PT DI Andi Alisjahbana melalui pesan pendek kepada Tempo, Rabu, 30 April 2014.

Alasannya, helikopter Panther ini sangat cocok dioperasikan di atas dek kapal perang. Bahkan, helikopter ini sudah digunakan oleh pasukan penjaga pantai Amerika Serikat atau US Coast Guard.

Alasan lain, PT DI sudah menjalin kerja sama dengan pabrikan Eurocopter sejak 1974. Saat ini, PT DI memegang lisensi perakitan helikopter produksi Eurocopter Superpuma, Fennec, dan BO 105.

Selain itu, PT DI baru saja mendapat lisensi pembuatan helikopter Dauphin yang belum lama ini sudah diserahkan ke Badan SAR Nasional. "Helikopter Panther itu cuma nama militer dari Dauphin," katanya. Walhasil, PT DI mampu membuat helikopter Panther yang tak jauh beda dengan Dauphin.

Untuk Panther versi militer, Andi melanjutkan, PT Dirgantara Indonesia siap memasangkan alat khusus untuk memburu kapal selam musuh yang disebut dipping sonar. Alat tersebut merupakan radar pencari kapal selam yang digunakan di dalam air. Sonar ini menangkap suara pergerakan mesin dan baling-baling kapal selam di dalam air.

"Disebut dipping karena alat ini dipasang di helikopter lalu ketika hovering (melayang), alat itu diturunkan masuk ke dalam air untuk bisa mendeteksi suara kapal selam," katanya.

Sayangnya, Andi belum mau membicarakan nominal harga helikopter anti-kapal selam Panther. Namun sumber Tempo di Kementerian Pertahanan mengatakan per unit helikopter Panther dihargai US$ 21,27 juta. "Rencana pembelian antara 11-16 unit," kata seorang sumber yang enggan disebut namanya.

PT DI Akan Bangun Heli Panther untuk TNI AL Â | -nasional- | Tempo.co

16 is really a good number

 

[Harkness]

16 is really a good number

indeed, but lets wait until end of this year. hope the contract is signed by then

Indonesian navy stalks AS565 Panther deal
By: Greg Waldron
Singapore
Source: Flightglobal

The Indonesian navy is in negotiations with PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI) for the acquisition of between 11-16 Airbus Military AS565 Panther anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters.

“I can confirm we are talking to the Indonesian government about the Panther, but the numbers are in limbo,” says PTDI vice president of marketing and sales Arie Wibowo.

He says the services requires a minimum of 11 aircraft, but could obtain as many as 16.

Wibowo adds that the contract could be signed by the end of 2014. Deliveries will commence 12 months after the deal is signed, and be completed within two years – although this could vary depending on the mission package to be used aboard the aircraft.

If a contract is signed, PTDI will receive green aircraft from Airbus Helicopters, and then be responsible for installing the aircraft’s various mission systems at its Bandung facility. Wibowo says the amount of local content provided by the AS565 helped it defeat the other helicopter considered - the AgustaWestland Super Lynx 300.

The AS565 can operate from both warships and land bases, according to Airbus Helicopters’ web site.

PTDI and Airbus Helicopter have a deep relationship. Since 2008 PTDI has produced airframes for the AS332 Super Puma helicopter at its Bandung factory. In the last three decades, PTDI has undertaken licensed production of the BO105 light helicopter, and Puma SA330 transport helicopter.

In November 2013, PTDI delivered Airbus Helicopter (then called Eurocopter) the first Indonesian-produced complete main fuselage for the EC225/725 helicopter.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

indeed, but lets wait until end of this year. hope the contract is signed by then

The original order is only for 4 or 6 units but later our Chief of Air Forces said we will extend it to purchase a full squadron strength.
Since our Paskhas (Air Force Commando) already have specialized Combat SAR Battalion (Yon Paskhas 465/Brajamusti) i think the acquisition of full combat SAR helos is the right choices since our Mil-Mi 17 helos are to slow and less protected for this role.

 

[MarveL]

Delay puts cooperation with Embraer at risk
Yuliasri Perdani, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Tue, May 06 2014, 9:53 AM


The Defense Ministry said on Monday that future cooperation with Brazilian aerospace conglomerate Embraer SA could be at risk after a seven-month delay in the delivery of four EMB 314 Super Tucano turboprops ordered by Indonesia.

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said he doubted the ministry would forge a new cooperation with the firm in the future.

“The delay is not because of us, but them [Embraer],” Purnomo said at the Defense Ministry in Jakarta on Monday.

“Why it is delayed? If our initial procurement ends up like this, what about our next procurement project?”

In 2010, the Defense Ministry signed a US$284 million contract with Embraer to build a squadron of Super Tucanos to replace its OV-10 Bronco aircraft, which have been in service for three decades.

Embraer was obliged by contract to hand over the first batch of eight aircraft by August last year and then another batch in March 2015. So far, however, the ministry has only received four turboprops.

“The company argued that [the delay] was due to the far distance [between Brazil and Indonesia]. Our main concern is that they fulfill their commitment as stipulated in the contract,” he said.

Purnomo said that Deputy Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin would fly to Brazil to discuss defense cooperation, including the troubled Super Tucanos procurement project.

“The deputy minister will visit Brazil, we want to confirm their commitment. [They] have promised to deliver the squadron before Oct. 5,” the minister said, referring to the day of celebration for the Indonesian Military’s (TNI) anniversary.

To compensate Indonesia for the delay, Embraer has paid the maximum penalty of around $7 million.

“They have paid the penalty. But, this issue also has political ramifications, especially for the relationship between Brazil and Indonesia,” Purnomo said while acknowledging that the Brazilian Embassy in Jakarta had been supportive in solving the matter.

The Super Tuscanos procurement fits into Indonesia’s goal to modernize its weapons systems. The country aims to have 128 up-to-date jet fighters by 2024.

The ministry is in the process of selecting a replacement for its old Northrop F-5 Tiger fighter jets. The Air Force and the TNI have named Lockheed Martin’s F-35 as its top choice, while state aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara Indonesia (DI) suggested the Eurofighter Typhoon — manufactured by a consortium of three companies: BAE Systems, Airbus Group and Alenia Aermacchi. PT DI suggested that the consortium would be willing to transfer their technology in producing the aircraft.

“We must carefully consider many aspects in choosing the F-5 replacement […] that includes price,” Purnomo said when asked about the ministry’s aircraft of choice.

Also on Monday, Purnomo welcomed the Crown Prince of Brunei, Haji Al-Muhtadee Billah, who was on a visit to the country.

Earlier in the day, the prince was inducted as a TNI honorary member, receiving berets from three elite forces: the Army Special Forces (Kopassus), the Marine Corps and the Navy’s elite Frogmen Command (Kopaska).

Purnomo said the honorary title signified the strong defense cooperation between the countries. In the last few years, Indonesia and Brunei have established partnerships on military education and training. Purnomo expressed hope that the defense cooperation would become stronger.

“The prince will take a look at Indonesian defense industry state-owned arms manufacturer PT Pindad. I also suggested he visit PT DI, which has manufactured many CN 235 and CN 295 helicopters,” Purnomo said.

Delay puts cooperation with Embraer at risk | The Jakarta Post

 

[Nike]

F 35 jadi juga kan diincer hahahaha

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

F 35 jadi juga kan diincer hahahaha

Can't believe we aimed for that plane.
Instead of having 1 squadron of F-35, we can have 2 squadrons of Su-35.
Having such overpriced fighter with high risk of being embargoed by US at any time really doesn't make sense.
Not to mention the political 'do's and don'ts' as the terms of condition to be applied along with the acquisition.

 

[Zarvan]

Can't believe we aimed for that plane.
Instead of having 1 squadron of F-35, we can have 2 squadrons of Su-35.
Having such overpriced fighter with high risk of being embargoed by US at any time really doesn't make sense.
Not to mention the political 'do's and don'ts' as the terms of condition to be applied along with the acquisition.

Not two you need several more Squadrons of either SU-30 or SU-35 at least 7 or 8

 

[Harkness]

The original order is only for 4 or 6 units but later our Chief of Air Forces said we will extend it to purchase a full squadron strength.
Since our Paskhas (Air Force Commando) already have specialized Combat SAR Battalion (Yon Paskhas 465/Brajamusti) i think the acquisition of full combat SAR helos is the right choices since our Mil-Mi 17 helos are to slow and less protected for this role.

wait a sec bro, you're not confuse ASW helos with CSAR helos right? since my article is about Panther ASW helos not Cougar CSAR helos