Indo-Russian military MTA project to begin in January

[Mirza Jatt]

Indo-Russian military MTA project to begin in January

New Delhi, Nov 10 (PTI) The Indo-Russian joint project for designing and developing a military multi-role transport aircraft (MTA) will formally begin in January next year, the government today said.

A shareholders agreement was signed on September 9 between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and Russian companies UAC and Rosoboronexport, Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju told the Rajya Sabha.

"It is planned to start the project in January 2011, after incorporation of the joint venture programme," he said in a written reply.

The agreement, he said, was for incorporation of the joint venture company for design, development and production of the MTA and it was in pursuance of the Inter-Governmental Agreement between the two countries, which was signed on November 12, 2007.

"The joint venture company will have a shareholding of 50 per cent each from both sides. The investment for the programme has been worked out to be USD 600.

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[Surrender2me]

cool news,by the way i think It's easy to build Transporter when compared to Pak fa..
So by wat time will MTA start test flight??
i guess 2012?

 

[Vajra_Yuddh]

I thought this was covered up since last Medvedev visit in 2008? Why so long in ironing out the details? There is a YouTube video already showing the 3D version of the plane.

On side notes, I think India should accept that Ukrainian offer of a joint transport aircraft too. A strategic lifter for future like Boeing C-17 or An-124 sort of plane that can have short take off and still carry heavy stuff. Ukrainians are experienced in heavy plane making.

 

[sathya]

quicker the project is done better the profit since many new players have entered this segment .

 

[luckyyy]

can kaveri engine be fitted on Indo-Russian military MTA ..?

IL-76 , has maximum takeoff weight of 157000kg..use 4 engines of 118kn each

MTA , will be having maximum takeoff weight of 68000kg , using 4 kaveri of 50kn each ...

 

[SQ8]

Better they re-engine the AN-70 with dual jets.. and voila.. a MTA, cheap, very effective.. and quick too.

 

[Infinite Sapience]

Better they re-engine the AN-70 with dual jets.. and voila.. a MTA, cheap, very effective.. and quick too.

Alteration to any part of the external airframe, changes the aerodynamics of the entire plane. Such that another series alteration are required to optimize the airframe performance, which in most cases inevitably leads to redesigning the entire plane, which in turn is seldomly less expensive or less time consuming, than a new plane.

 

[SQ8]

Alteration to any part of the external airframe, changes the aerodynamics of the entire plane. Such that another series alteration are required to optimize the airframe performance, which in most cases inevitably leads to redesigning the entire plane, which in turn is seldomly less expensive or less time consuming, than a new plane.

Really?
More expensive than starting over..
considering many early leaps in jet flight were made by re-engineing existing Props.

Btw.. the program to do this exists..
Called the AN-70-600.

 

[Vajra_Yuddh]

can kaveri engine be fitted on Indo-Russian military MTA ..?

IL-76 , has maximum takeoff weight of 157000kg..use 4 engines of 118kn each

MTA , will be having maximum takeoff weight of 68000kg , using 4 kaveri of 50kn each ...

Kaveri is an afterburning low-bypass turbofan engine, mate. It means that it is meant for powering up fighters not transport or conventional planes. There might be twist-offs from the project but Kaveri will only power Tejas MK-2 and AMCA.

 

[Vajra_Yuddh]

Really?
More expensive than starting over..
considering many early leaps in jet flight were made by re-engineing existing Props.

Btw.. the program to do this exists..
Called the AN-70-600.

But the issue is that we want to make something in which there's Indian learning involved and there's no safer bet than to get it done with a country that has loads of experience on making planes of all types, Russia.

 

[Infinite Sapience]

Really?
More expensive than starting over..
considering many early leaps in jet flight were made by re-engineing existing Props.

Btw.. the program to do this exists..
Called the AN-70-600.

I guess my exact words were "seldomly less expensive" but not getting into symantec, In long term innovation is always the less expensive option.
otherwise USAF would still be flying B-17 with jet engines instead of B-52s.

As far AN-70-600 is concerned, it is Chinese cloning factory at work, can't expect much innovation there.

 

[sancho]

Better they re-engine the AN-70 with dual jets.. and voila.. a MTA, cheap, very effective.. and quick too.

Aren't you forgetting something? Antonov Ukraine, Ilyushin Russian!
Also the An 70 is in the class of IL 76, but MRTA is meant to be in the class of C130 only. That's why the aim is to take the normal IL 76 cabine in a shorter size, with the same wing design and engines, only the cockpit section will be really new designed. The re-design shouldn't be a big problem for the Russians, because of the high commonality and the long experience with this aircraft type, neither should we expect much cost overruns.

Left the latest IL 76 version, right the MRTA, or IL 214:

 

[TenjikuKensei]

Wiki says that the takeoff and landing runs of aircraft would be 1200 meters. Is that not a lil too much? considering that the landing run(with reversed thrust) for the Il 76 is only ~500 meters?

I know that this is largely due to the fact that the MTA is a 2 engine aircraft while the Il 76 has four.However, shorter landing and takeoff distances would be invaluable in the mountainous areas (a.k.a the Himalayan region). I know that the aircraft is but in the conceptual state and might change as it is designed, I wish they add some powerful engines than the ones they are considering right now.

btw; can these aircraft be used to airdrop paratroopers? if needed?
If India is planning to buy ~50 of these aircraft, the ability to drop paratroopers would be a decidedly beneficial option and should be perused.