"Indo-Greek Cooperation: Countering the Turkey-Pakistan Nexus"

[Trango Towers]

India always two steps behind. Always backing losers.

 

[Cliftonite]

Indians are so lame. This will feature another Karolina Goswami/Renee Lynn/Francois Gautier paid shill to extoll the virtues of curry powder Bharati sanskriti


Muh Hindu Genocide 80 million killed Tanatan dharma.

 

[Orkunhun]

Just a couple of hippies gathering. I see no politicians or any significiant people. I hope both countries develope ties tho and for that meeting keep the hippies home. showchasing some official state manner pics or vids is key here lets keep it professional guys.

I wonder if you do not consider MP's or MEP's as politicians?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

....

 

[VkdIndian]

Absolute hatred can cloud the thinking and vision absolutely.

It is fine to be critical of an adversary. But always calling a nation loser and names may not be a good idea in the long run. It may cloud one’s judgment and critical assessment.

If Pakistan was so capable a nation it should be visible in various areas, mainly economy, education, innovation which in turn will create a world standing. Pakistan is tottering at the edge on economic front, in the grey list of FATF, getting its plane impounded for poor handling of even day to matters but remains a highly capable nation as per a lot of FMs. Come on dudes....

It is in no way a statement that India is doing a superlative job on everything. It has failed on quite a few fronts too. But has definitely a better standing compared to Pakistan.

Coming to India’s cooperation with Greece.

Firstly, Turkey unnecessarily tried to finger India on Kashmir. Turkey has no leverage on India in any which way. It is not a strong enough nation to wield any power in this region. But it has global ambitions as a leader of Muslim nations. That prompted dear friend Erdogan to sing Kashmir tune.

An unnecessary and avoidable confluence of interests created by an overly ambitious Erdogan.

India too doesn’t have much at stake in the Greece vs Turkey issues. But this recent conflict has provided a good opportunity to India to show Turkey that nuisance value can be created both ways.

What can India put on the table in this partnership? No idea as yet. But it would definitely be more than what Pakistan can put on table in its alliance with Turkey.

Pakistan tried to join the alliance that Turkey dreams of leading. I hope it remembers its impact when Saudis made it borrow from China to repay its debt. Middle East still remains the main source of oil and gas which I am sure would be required by Pakistan. Current problems of Pakistan not being able to manage LNG gas might be a result of few OIC nations trying to teach a lesson to Pakistan. It’s an assessment. There could be some other angle to it.

In the meanwhile I suggest that some of the friends who are filled with hatred become a bit of realist and start analysing things with facts in mind.

See, I have put these words without quoting names, religion, cuss words. Though my views may be a little different from some other FMs.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Yes we you will need plenty of those along with coffee makers as well in any potential future conflict

We wouldn't want those to claim they signed some document while they were half-asleep

View attachment 709371

Too bad there were no muktis around to save nandu and his sukhoi mate.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Absolute hatred can cloud the thinking and vision absolutely.

It is fine to be critical of an adversary. But always calling a nation loser and names may not be a good idea in the long run. It may cloud one’s judgment and critical assessment.

If Pakistan was so capable a nation it should be visible in various areas, mainly economy, education, innovation which in turn will create a world standing. Pakistan is tottering at the edge on economic front, in the grey list of FATF, getting its plane impounded for poor handling of even day to matters but remains a highly capable nation as per a lot of FMs. Come on dudes....

It is in no way a statement that India is doing a superlative job on everything. It has failed on quite a few fronts too. But has definitely a better standing compared to Pakistan.

Coming to India’s cooperation with Greece.

Firstly, Turkey unnecessarily tried to finger India on Kashmir. Turkey has no leverage on India in any which way. It is not a strong enough nation to wield any power in this region. But it has global ambitions as a leader of Muslim nations. That prompted dear friend Erdogan to sing Kashmir tune.

An unnecessary and avoidable confluence of interests created by an overly ambitious Erdogan.

India too doesn’t have much at stake in the Greece vs Turkey issues. But this recent conflict has provided a good opportunity to India to show Turkey that nuisance value can be created both ways.

What can India put on the table in this partnership? No idea as yet. But it would definitely be more than what Pakistan can put on table in its alliance with Turkey.

Pakistan tried to join the alliance that Turkey dreams of leading. I hope it remembers its impact when Saudis made it borrow from China to repay its debt. Middle East still remains the main source of oil and gas which I am sure would be required by Pakistan. Current problems of Pakistan not being able to manage LNG gas might be a result of few OIC nations trying to teach a lesson to Pakistan. It’s an assessment. There could be some other angle to it.

In the meanwhile I suggest that some of the friends who are filled with hatred become a bit of realist and start analysing things with facts in mind.

See, I have put these words without quoting names, religion, cuss words. Though my views may be a little different from some other FMs.

"india is doing so well"............... :

53% Indian households defecate in open: World Bank says on World Toilet Day | India News - Times of India

India News: With over 600 million people in India defecating in the open, absence of toilet or latrine is one of the important contributors to malnutrition, a Wor

m.timesofindia.com

IQ by Country - World Ranking of Countries by their Average IQ

What to know what country has the highest average IQ? â What is the average IQ of your country? â Full list of countries by their average IQ - more than 180 countries! â â Find answers about IQ by country here! â¦

new-iq-test.com

Superpower? India First Needs to Save Its Children & Women from Malnutrition | NewsClick

Latest health survey (NFHS-5) reveals shocking levels of anaemia and malnutrition in states.

www.newsclick.in

Down To Earth | Latest news, opinion, analysis on environment & science issues | India, South Asia

Down To Earth brings to you latest news, opinion and blogs on environment and science from India and south Asia. Follow us for information on water, waste, climate change and energy among other topics

www.downtoearth.org.in

China Has Occupied Over 38,000 Sq Km of Indian Land In Ladakh & Arunachal: India Govt

The Indian government highlighted in Parliament that 38,000 sq km of Indian territory was under Chinese occupation which included parts in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh but emphasized that and the entire region would remain an inalienable part of India, reports the Times of India. India-China...

eurasiantimes.com

India top recipient of US economic aid - Times of India

US News: India has been identified as the largest recipient of U.S economic assistance over a 66-year period in inflation-adjusted dollars although Washington'

m.timesofindia.com

Half of the world’s poor live in just 5 countries

Of the world’s 736 million extreme poor in 2015, 368 million—half of the total—lived in just 5 countries. The 5 countries with the highest number of extreme poor are (in descending order): India, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, and Bangladesh.

blogs.worldbank.org

India accused of poverty 'smokescreen'

India has been accused of creating a "smokescreen" to conceal the true scale of poverty in the country after the government claimed to have lifted more than 50 million people above the threshold in the last five years.

www.telegraph.co.uk

India houses 24% of world's malnourished; 30% of stunted children under 5

India has shown improvement in reducing child stunting but with 46.6 million stunted children, the country is home to over 30.9% of all stunted children under five--the highest in the world

wap.business-standard.com

Why India remains malnourished

Two-and-a-half-year-old Rabina weighs 6.5 kg. A healthy child of her age should weigh at least 8 kg. But Rabina could not escape the curse of being born in Shiv

www.downtoearth.org.in

India has one third of world's poorest, says World Bank

One in three of the world's poorest people are living in India, the world's second-fastest growing economy, according to a new study by the World Bank.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Apart from. Having 40% of the ENTIRE earth's most severely malnourished and extreme poor as well as over 600 million people defecating in the open each day, india has NOTHING to offer the world.........

 

[retaxis]

India with its massive population can't even make a mobile phone (all from China) let alone what it should be doing with its population like china (space power, 5th gen jets indigenous etc). Maybe Indian diet is very bad for its Low IQ and they struggle with malnourishment thats why they always begging from others.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

India with its massive population can't even make a mobile phone (all from China) let alone what it should be doing with its population like china (space power, 5th gen jets indigenous etc). Maybe Indian diet is very bad for its Low IQ and they struggle with malnourishment thats why they always begging from others.

IQ by Country - World Ranking of Countries by their Average IQ

What to know what country has the highest average IQ? â What is the average IQ of your country? â Full list of countries by their average IQ - more than 180 countries! â â Find answers about IQ by country here! â¦

new-iq-test.com

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Absolute hatred can cloud the thinking and vision absolutely.

It is fine to be critical of an adversary. But always calling a nation loser and names may not be a good idea in the long run. It may cloud one’s judgment and critical assessment.

If Pakistan was so capable a nation it should be visible in various areas, mainly economy, education, innovation which in turn will create a world standing. Pakistan is tottering at the edge on economic front, in the grey list of FATF, getting its plane impounded for poor handling of even day to matters but remains a highly capable nation as per a lot of FMs. Come on dudes....

It is in no way a statement that India is doing a superlative job on everything. It has failed on quite a few fronts too. But has definitely a better standing compared to Pakistan.

Coming to India’s cooperation with Greece.

Firstly, Turkey unnecessarily tried to finger India on Kashmir. Turkey has no leverage on India in any which way. It is not a strong enough nation to wield any power in this region. But it has global ambitions as a leader of Muslim nations. That prompted dear friend Erdogan to sing Kashmir tune.

An unnecessary and avoidable confluence of interests created by an overly ambitious Erdogan.

India too doesn’t have much at stake in the Greece vs Turkey issues. But this recent conflict has provided a good opportunity to India to show Turkey that nuisance value can be created both ways.

What can India put on the table in this partnership? No idea as yet. But it would definitely be more than what Pakistan can put on table in its alliance with Turkey.

Pakistan tried to join the alliance that Turkey dreams of leading. I hope it remembers its impact when Saudis made it borrow from China to repay its debt. Middle East still remains the main source of oil and gas which I am sure would be required by Pakistan. Current problems of Pakistan not being able to manage LNG gas might be a result of few OIC nations trying to teach a lesson to Pakistan. It’s an assessment. There could be some other angle to it.

In the meanwhile I suggest that some of the friends who are filled with hatred become a bit of realist and start analysing things with facts in mind.

See, I have put these words without quoting names, religion, cuss words. Though my views may be a little different from some other FMs.

Why is India so triggered over Kashmir? Why is India so fragile that it needs to respond to mere words from the Turks? It's frankly pathetic. Indian behaviour is shocking, siding with Armenia -who probably don't give a rat's tail about India - purely to antagonise the ally of Turkey and Pakistan.

The world has never known such an inferiority complex driven and paranoid nation as Hindustan.

We are not economic CPEC supapuwa of the subcontinent

So we settle for small token gifts like these which we can afford-
View attachment 709377

Aww the little maratha warriors have to delve 50 years back to speak of their last dabble with shupa pawa status.

Modi should also forward pictures of his own heroic acts during the 70s, all in the name of Bharat Mata.

 

[Orkunhun]

Absolute hatred can cloud the thinking and vision absolutely.

It is fine to be critical of an adversary. But always calling a nation loser and names may not be a good idea in the long run. It may cloud one’s judgment and critical assessment.

Why is India so triggered over Kashmir? Why is India so fragile that it needs to respond to mere words from the Turks? It's frankly pathetic. Indian behaviour is shocking, siding with Armenia -who probably don't give a rat's tail about India - purely to antagonise the ally of Turkey and Pakistan.

I have to say that the quoted words of both of our form members are true and wise.
All due respect to those who can keep the track of his/her own wisdom.

 

[VkdIndian]

For those who were wondering about the outcome of “Indo-Greek Co-operation”.

This could be a result of that.

Is this FATF article true and the pic posted is real? The article looks totally one sided.

This is guy posting shows that he is more worried India and blames Pakistan for everything. https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/01/22/pakistan-fatf-february/

defence.pk

 

[Flash_Ninja]

India plan to assist Greece in space program by making promises of cooperation from Pakistan

The whole world thinks highly of South Asia's Space program thanks to Pakistan

After all Pakistan launched Hubble ispaceh telekscope into space
Suparco sent the world’s biggest telescope to space, says Fawad Ch

India will broker a deal between Land of Pure and Greece for Taknology cooperation

It speaks volumes then that Pakistan is close friends with many countries while nobody cares about India beyond being their cash cow.

Speaking of space programs, maybe it would take meeting aliens for India to finally make a friend.... asuming they dont get a glimpse of your 'indianess' first

 

[The Eagle]

Greek and Indian EXPERTS were calling for an online discussion round on 22nd January, under the banner "Indo-Greek Cooperation: Countering the Turkey-Pakistan Nexus".

They first advertised for it with the poster shown below View attachment 708304

But after the exposure that the country map coloured as Turkish flag is actually in the shape of Bulgaria the EXPERTS changed the poster with two circles depicting Turkish and Pakistan flags as shown below.
View attachment 708305

Their own start was actually very confused let alone seeing such a Chair of the Session and the subject. However, I am not surprised if India & Greek are coming closer.... the duo will do the perfect job for Pakistan Turkey and enhance the relationships further.

For those who were wondering about the outcome of “Indo-Greek Co-operation”.

This could be a result of that.

Is this FATF article true and the pic posted is real? The article looks totally one sided.

This is guy posting shows that he is more worried India and blames Pakistan for everything. https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/01/22/pakistan-fatf-february/

defence.pk

By the way if that copy paste is a success then, I will leave it to sane minds in both countries to weigh the outcome of this meeting. Such article from Greek Times is the same thing when all the Indian media outlets copies the same article to post it on internet like one after another. That reminds me how EU DisInfoLab exposed in Indian Chronicles.

 

[xyx007]

greekcitytimes.com

Building Greco-Indian Relations: GCT Participates In Webinar Discussing Joint Turkish-Pakistani Aggression - Greek City Times
by Paul Antonopoulos

7-9 minutes

At a time when Turkey and Pakistan are increasing cooperation to target both Greece and India, Dr. Abhishek Ranjan and Bhavdeep Modi of New Delhi-based Red Lantern Analytica think-tank organised a crucial webinar to discuss strategies on countering this common threat.
The Indo-Greece Cooperation: Countering Turkey-Pakistan Nexus webinar, moderated by Dr. Gaurav Tyagi from the Jawaharlal Nehru University, featured Dr. Vandana Mishra from Jawaharlal Nehru University; independent geopolitical analyst Sonam Mahajan; Director at the Research Institute for European and American Studies, Dr. John Nomikos; MEP of the Greek Solution, Emmanouil Fragkos; and, Andreas Mountzouroulias from Penta Postagma.

Various strategies in countering the common Turkish-Pakistani threats were discussed, as well as how to boost Greek-Indian relations.
Among the most impressive ideas raised was for Greece to launch its first military satellites with Indian cooperation and knowhow.
However, many productive ideas were suggested and can be heard in the recording of the webinar.
Greek City Times‘ Paul Antonopoulos participated in the webinar, giving a Vote of Thanks and Final Statement to the webinar, where it was emphasised that Greco-Indian relations stretch back 2,300 years back to the time of Alexander the Great.

The Final Statement, as well as the entire webinar recording, can be seen below.

The full Vote of Thanks and Final Statement can be read here:
Ladies and Gentlemen, it gives me immense pleasure to deliver the Vote of Thanks for this highly engaging and highly critical webinar. Alexander the Great first arrived in the Indus Valley 2,300 years ago as a conqueror but left as a dear friend of King Porus. Nearly a thousand years before the concept of an England was conceptualised and nearly 2,000 years before the founding of the United States of America, Greeks and Indians had already gone to war, and then immediately become friends.
Although Greek philosopher Pythagoras is credited for the Pythagorean theory, Indians had known of this theorem at least 300 years earlier via the Shuba Sutra of Baudhayan. It is perhaps here that further defines the immensity of our civilizations – both capable of independently discovering, researching, philosophizing and theorizing revolutionary ideas and thoughts that are for the betterment of humanity. Our civilizations survived the test of times when others went into the pages of history permanently, such as the Babylonians.
I am sure that Alexander the Great and King Porus would be proud of the fact that the friendship between the Greek and Indian peoples, that they themselves built and established, is being continued 2,300 years later, and this webinar is a testament to that.
Unfortunately, instead of discussing ways to achieve prosperity for our countries through the exchange of capital, technology and education, we must prioritize our bilateral relations in the security field due to our respective countries bordering revisionist countries Turkey and Pakistan.
I would like to thank Andreas Mountzouroulias who was not only the first to open the discussion among our six highly distinguished speakers, but also highlighted the fact that Erdogan has neo-Ottoman dreams and that Greece needs a new dogma to counter Turkish aggression.
A special vote of thanks must also be extended to Dr. Vandana Mishra, whose short presentation today demonstrated to us why she is one of the top international relation professors in India. The professor explained to us how Erdogan is attempting to portray himself as the defender of Islam in this context, alongside Pakistan and Iran, and how this pose as a common threat to all our countries, especially in Kashmir. She also emphasized the importance that India and Greece continue building military ties, and how France should enter in a trilateral format. More importantly, she highlighted the absolute necessity that cultural ties between India and Greece must be strengthened.
I extend a very hearty vote of thanks to Emmanouil Fragkos, whose position in the European Parliament provided us all with a very unique perspective on how the hostilities against Greece and India by Turkey and Pakistan and their efforts on nuclear power. Unfortunately, he could not join us but left us an insightful video message.
Dr. John Nomikos has once again shown us why he is one of Greece’s top security analysts and we thank him for his time in appearing in today’s webinar. His highlighting that Turkish-Pakistani aggression has helped consolidate Greek and Indian relations as they are a national security threat was very insightful. He also suggested ways in which Greek and Indian relations can be improved through joint initiatives in the military sector and multilateral formats.
I give my vote of thanks to Sonam Mahajan. We could not have asked for a more concise and detailed final speaker and she certainly raised thought provoking ideas. Ms Mahajan highlighted that Turkey and Pakistan want to infiltrate our respective countries, and that unfortunately the EU has not done enough to support Greece against Turkish aggression in the East Mediterranean. She also highlighted that Turkey does not want to end its aggression, partially because of its declining economy.
As a final statement, we have a 2,300-year-old legacy that we must build, in respect of our civilizations and ancestors, and their achievements. We should not only pat ourselves on the back and say today’s seminar was good and what an excellent job we did, but we must use this opportunity to further build cross Greek-Indian relations through academic, journalistic, economic, military, technological and political exchanges.
Another important factor is that we no longer face a common threat from only joint Turkish-Pakistani aggression. We must remember that only last week Pakistan, Turkey and Azerbaijan issued a joint statement claiming they will all collectively support each other’s regional issues – this means Pakistan against Kashmir, Turkey in Cyprus and the East Mediterranean, and Azerbaijan against the Armenians. Although we have done an excellent job in advancing bilateral relations between Greece and India today, the collective threat is much wider and in future exchanges we must also include our friends from Cyprus and Armenia.
Greece faces a Turkey that is bringing neo-Ottoman ambitions from the realm of theory to reality as its recent wars against Syria, Libya and the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh demonstrate.
Meanwhile, Pakistan and its expansionist ambitions to conquer Jammu and Kashmir, adopts the ideology of Neo-Mughalism, believing that they are the successors of Turkic conquerors rather than Islamified Indians.
It is of little wonder that both Pakistan and Turkey now have strong ties, and not based on economic cooperation and development to alleviate their permeating issues of poverty and economic crises, but to continue their goal of territorial expansionism at the expense of the indigenous peoples of Greece and India.
But they will not succeed.
I thank you all and wait with excitedness and anticipation to see what we can all do collectively to continue building Greek-Indian relations even deeper.
Bharat Mata Ki Jai
Zito H Hellas
https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/01/24/india-gct-webinar-turkish-pakistani/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Turkey and Pakistan are working hard as Turkey is making ships for Pakistan, and this time we should focus on how India and others are taking this move as many groups are joining hands.