What's new

India's toxic obsession

third eye

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Aug 24, 2008
Messages
18,519
Reaction score
13
Country
India
Location
India
http://tribune.com.pk/story/624815/indias-toxic-obsession/

624815-NaveedHussainNew-1383153416-481-640x480.jpg


An online current affairs magazine, The Diplomat, recently published a report about China’s new nuclear-capable bomber Xian H-6K. The aircraft, according to Chinese media, has a combat range of 3,500km. And if armed with the up to 5,000km range Changjian-10K cruise missile, it can effectively reach Okinawa, Guam and even Hawaii from mainland China. A senior Indian analyst shared the report on his Facebook wall with an obsessively cynical comment, “More important is whether we can take it [the bomber] down before it reaches Mughalsarai?” For those who don’t know, Mughalsarai is a city in Uttar Pradesh, India’s fifth largest and most populous state. The comment shows India’s growing obsession with China.

This obsession stemmed from India’s drubbing in the 1962 border war with China. And it’s ceaselessly fed on China’s burgeoning military prowess, rapid economic development and its growing regional and global influence. Add the Pakistan-China relationship, and the obsession becomes toxic.

India and Pakistan are biological twins, born of the same blood. They have many things in common, but mutual distrust has bedeviled their relationship since their bloody birth. Conversely, Pakistan and China may not have many commonalities, still they managed to develop a robust, symbiotic relationship. The Indians are wary of this bond. They believe Pakistan is colluding with China to stymie India’s growth and to foster Beijing’s geopolitical strategy in South Asia. To substantiate their fears, they refer to China’s massive strategic and political investment in Pakistan.

Pakistan transferred the management of the strategically located Gwadar port to China earlier this year. The port is purely commercial. But Indian strategists believe it is a new ‘pearl’ in the so-called ‘string of pearls’ strategy associated with China. According to this hypothetical strategy, China is building and enhancing seaports in countries such as Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Bangladesh and Pakistan, to turn them into naval bases at some point in the future in order to encircle India in a strategically disadvantageous position.

Pakistan is aware of India’s overwrought fears. And perhaps, this is what strengthens Islamabad’s belief that Delhi is fuelling the separatist insurgency in Balochistan, where the Gwadar port is located. Pakistani officials have repeatedly blamed the Indian intelligence agency, RAW, for covertly arming, training and financing Baloch separatists through Indian consulates in Afghanistan. These concerns were partly endorsed by US President Barack Obama’s special representative for the region James Dobbins. Officially, India denies the allegation. However, its former army chief, General VK Singh, reportedly admitted in a recent inquiry report that an Indian Army unit doled out money to Baloch separatists through Afghanistan.

After coming to power, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had his first official visit to China in July, where the two allies inter alia reached an array of agreements and pledged to build a trade and energy corridor from Gwadar to Kashghar, in Xinjiang. Some global powers are also out to ensure the failure of this multibillion dollar project by keeping Balochistan unstable. And Pakistan believes India is conspiring with them to scare away the Chinese from Gwadar.

The ongoing flare-up on the Line of Control and the working boundary shows that rounds and rounds of dialogue couldn’t even narrow down the trust deficit between the two states. There is no denying that an uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue is the only way for the two neighbours to detoxify their relations and work towards the economic development of their peoples. Normalisation would, however, remain a far cry unless Indian officialdom gives up its toxic obsession and re-hyphenates relations with Pakistan and China.
 
The Indians are wary of this bond. They believe Pakistan is colluding with China to stymie India’s growth and to foster Beijing’s geopolitical strategy in South Asia. To substantiate their fears, they refer to China’s massive strategic and political investment in Pakistan.

We're not the ones who destroyed India's growth story, that would be the Indian Congress party.

Type "India GDP growth rate" into Google search, it will fetch a chart from the World Bank that shows India grew at 3.2% in 2012, compared to Pakistan's 4.2% growth rate in the same period.

Hell, we ourselves were contained by both the USA and the Soviet Union during the Cold war, with both of their client states surrounding us on all sides. Even today those client states are still there. That didn't stop our economic growth, if anything it made it stronger.
 
http://tribune.com.pk/story/624815/indias-toxic-obsession/



An online current affairs magazine, The Diplomat, recently published a report about China’s new nuclear-capable bomber Xian H-6K. The aircraft, according to Chinese media, has a combat range of 3,500km. And if armed with the up to 5,000km range Changjian-10K cruise missile, it can effectively reach Okinawa, Guam and even Hawaii from mainland China. .


This article start out with Indian logic. if you have a cruise missile that you can launch from your own territory and has the range to hit the enemy territory. Why would you need to put it on a plane? Indian logic.
 
I don't know if we have toxic obsession about our neighbors but we are definitely obsessed about improving our living standards.

Pakistan is nothing but a slight irritant which can never stymie India's growth potential. China is a formidable foe both militarily and economically whom we look up to for inspiration.
 
lolzzz its not us indians but the greedi pakistani feudal/ milliatarry elite which has a toxic obession towards hindu india and they sing praises to anyone who gives them free lunch/AID (wepons and dollars) withowt asking any questions

till USA was giving them free lunch they were best freinds but as soon as USA discovered pakistans true trechrous colours and double game and back stabbing tendencies and satarted asking the questions about use of there aid and started killing terrorist with drones USA became there number one enemy ...lolzzz funnt isnt it

now Gilgit and balistan and large parts of mineral rich baloochistan are leased to China so it can feul there obsession and hate with india and ensures free supply of wepons they are dancing on chinese tuens and singing praises for them soon when china will start asking questions it will realli be intersting to see how pakistanies will respond to that ...till then good luck Pakistan and keep on feuling the fire of there toxic obsession with india
 
However, its former army chief, General VK Singh, reportedly admitted in a recent inquiry report that an Indian Army unit doled out money to Baloch separatists through Afghanistan.
Utter hogwash! He never said anything of the sort. Putting words in his mouth have become a fashion with Pakistani journalists.
 
This article start out with Indian logic. if you have a cruise missile that you can launch from your own territory and has the range to hit the enemy territory. Why would you need to put it on a plane? Indian logic.

Almost the whole article is a nonsense written by some Pakistani journalist and you are questioning it as Indian logic?
 
This article start out with Indian logic. if you have a cruise missile that you can launch from your own territory and has the range to hit the enemy territory. Why would you need to put it on a plane? Indian logic.

Heard about flexibility of multiple launch sites / platforms ?
 
Heard about flexibility of multiple launch sites / platforms ?

Third Eye, why is India's growth rate now at around 3-4%?

Do you know how many decades of 3-4% growth it will take to even double that measly 1.5 trillion GDP? Take out a calculator and see, using a simple compound interest formula.

There is nothing we need to do, India already took itself out of the game. And it was your own Congress party that did it.
 
Third Eye, why is India's growth rate now at around 3-4%?

Do you know how many decades of 3-4% growth it will take to even double that measly 1.5 trillion GDP? Take out a calculator and see, using a simple compound interest formula.

There is nothing we need to do, India already took itself out of the game. And it was your own Congress party that did it.

What does this have to do with post # 3 to which I had replied ?
 
What does this have to do with post # 3 to which I had replied ?

It has to do with the OP, specifically that Indians believe China and Pakistan are conspiring against India's growth.

Is it our fault that India is now growing at 3-4%?

Or was it your own fault for being obsessed with China and Pakistan, while failing to build up your national infrastructure (not just physical infrastructure, but social and administrative infrastructure like education systems), a process which takes decades of constant effort.
 
It has to do with the OP, specifically that Indians believe China and Pakistan are conspiring against India's growth.

Is it our fault that India is now growing at 3-4%?

Or was it your own fault for being obsessed with China and Pakistan, while failing to build up your national infrastructure (not just physical infrastructure, but social and administrative infrastructure like education systems), a process which takes decades of constant effort.

Thats the view of the author in Post No 1 and in case it hasn't been noticed - its from a Pak paper written by a Pak author.

Despite being ' obsessed' as the author & you put it we are doing fine. Muddling along.. but then that has more to do with our system of governance which is different from China & Pakistan and we are happy with that.
 
Thats the view of the author in Post No 1 and in case it hasn't been noticed - its from a Pak paper written by a Pak author.

Despite being ' obsessed' as the author & you put it we are doing fine. Muddling along.. but then that has more to do with our system of governance which is different from China & Pakistan and we are happy with that.

Muddling along? Doing fine?

Having more poverty than the entire continent of Africa, having more malnutrition and starvation than the rest of the world put together, having the majority of India's population practicing open defecation?

Falling behind Africa, do you call that "doing fine"?

Africa has a smaller population than India, a much bigger GDP than India, and they are growing at around 5% average.

And don't blame democracy, there are plenty of democracies around the world which perform exceptionally well.
 
Muddling along?

Having more poverty than the entire continent of Africa, having more malnutrition and starvation than the rest of the world put together, having the majority of India's population practicing open defecation?

Falling behind Africa, do you call that "doing fine"?

Africa has a smaller population than India, a much bigger GDP than India, and they are growing at around 5% average.

And don't blame democracy, there are plenty of democracies around the world which perform exceptionally well.

Whats your problem ?

I do not have to explain or justify anything to the likes of you.

Like I said we are muddling along & doing fine. Despite all the doomsday images you outsiders have or create, today an average Indian has more money & spends more than what he did or had a decade ago.
 
Whats your problem ?

I do not have to explain or justify anything to the likes of you.

Like I said we are muddling along & doing fine. Despite all the doomsday images you outsiders have or create, today an average Indian has more money & spends more than what he did or had a decade ago.

Sure, you are "doing fine".

I wish you good luck, but when you take out a calculator and check out what 3-4% GDP growth per annum will add to your GDP in a decade, you're going to feel sick.

China had three whole decades of sustained double-digit growth, and we are still a developing economy.

India hasn't even STARTED to have sustained double-digit growth, after three decades you will see how much of a difference a few percentage points can make in terms of compound interest.

But don't worry, delusions will make up for it. A few words from India's favourite President:

India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times

http://articles.economictimes.india...s/28389376_1_space-programme-kalam-superpower
 

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom