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N-deal critics ask NSG to reject US proposal

14 Aug 2008, 1056 hrs IST,IANS

WASHINGTON: The Washington based Arms Control Association (ACA) has asked nuclear exporting countries to flatly reject "as unsound and irresponsible" a US proposal to exempt India from the group's guidelines without any additional conditions.

"One of the most notable and troublesome features" of the US proposal is the weak and very ambiguous language in section 2, which is ostensibly meant to outline what India has done that qualifies it for a special exemption from Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)guidelines, says the ACA Executive Director Daryl G Kimball.

The arms control lobby which has consistently opposed the India-US nuclear deal Wednesday published what it described as the US proposal to exempt India from existing nuclear trade restrictions maintained by the 45-member NSG. The NSG is due to meet Aug 20-21 in Vienna for an extraordinary plenary meeting to discuss the US proposal to facilitate the India-US civil nuclear deal and may convene again to vote on the initiative as early as September.

The implementing 123 agreement can be sent to the US Congress for ratification only after it gets NSG clearance.

The current US proposal would simply "recognize" India's commitments and actions that were outlined in the July 2005 joint statement by President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Kimball said in an accompanying analysis.

Section 3 would allow individual NSG members to engage in a full range of nuclear trade with India without any legally or politically meaningful requirement that would link nuclear trade with India to implementation and compliance with the commitments and actions mentioned in section 2, he said.

The proposal would only require that: "Participating Government shall maintain contact and consult through regular channels on matters connected with the implementation of the Guidelines, taking into account relevant international commitments and bilateral agreements with India."

"This is a much weaker formulation than the already weak March 2006 US draft proposal," Kimball said.

According to ACA the earlier draft stated that: "Participating Governments may transfer trigger list items and/or related technology to the safeguarded civil nuclear facilities in India ...as long as the participating Government intending to make the transfer is satisfied that India continues to fully meet all of the aforementioned non-proliferation and safeguards commitments, and all other requirements of the NSG Guidelines."

The current US proposal would leave it up to each individual NSG participant to decide whether India is or is not meeting these weak standards and loose commitments before they sell nuclear technology and materials, possibly including technologies the US would not be willing to sell, to India, Kimball said.

To be effective, the NSG's guidelines must establish clear and unambiguous terms and conditions for the initiation of nuclear trade and possible termination of nuclear trade with recipient states, he said.


In essence, the Bush administration is proposing an NSG rule-change that would not only erode rules-based efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons, but it would also allow other states to interpret or ignore the India-specific NSG guideline as they see fit and undermine how US lawmakers would like to see such a rule applied, Kimball said.

For instance, Russia has already shown its blatant disregard for existing NSG guidelines by re-supplying India's two Tarapur light-water reactors in 2001 and 2006.



Section 4 of the proposal stating that "Participation of India in the decisions regarding proposed amendments will facilitate their implementation by India" would effectively give India a veto over future NSG decisions even though it is not a member of the NSG, he said.


Calling the Bush administration's proposed India-specific exemption as "a non-proliferation disaster that could effectively end the NSG as a meaningful entity," Kimball said: "the current US proposal should be flatly rejected by other NSG member states as unsound and irresponsible."

If NSG states agree under pressure from an outgoing US administration to blow a hole in NSG guidelines in order to allow a few states to profit from reactor and nuclear fuel and technology sales to India, they should at a minimum, support "common sense restrictions and conditions on such trade" he said.

The conditions suggested by Kimball include:

* NSG states should establish a policy that if India resumes nuclear testing, or violates its safeguards agreements, trade involving nuclear items with India should be terminated and unused fuel supplies should be returned; * NSG states should expressly prohibit any transfer of sensitive reprocessing, enrichment, or heavy water production items or technology;

* NSG states should actively oppose any arrangement that would give India any special safeguards exemptions that would in any way be inconsistent with the principle of permanent safeguards over all nuclear materials and facilities.
*NSG states should not take any decision unless India and the IAEA conclude a meaningful Additional Protocol to supplement its new facility specific safeguards agreement;

* Before India is granted a waiver from the NSG's full-scope safeguards standards, NSG states should call upon it to join with four of the five original nuclear-weapon states in declaring that it has stopped fissile material production and call upon India to transform its nuclear test moratorium pledge into a legally binding pledge, perhaps by signing the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.

N-deal critics ask NSG to reject US proposal-India-The Times of India

something expected from the opposition lobby nothing new in it. Best is wait and watch for NSG meeting, that is crucial. If it gets clear there. mr. Bush should not have the problem in getting cleared from congress.
 
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nitesh, you are correct and you cant feel the value of the deal if it goes through without any opposition:angel:but i am optimistic that it will go through:)
 
nitesh, you are correct and you cant feel the value of the deal if it goes through without any opposition:angel:but i am optimistic that it will go through:)

he he he good one let's wait and watch:cheers:
 
Guys, what do you think about Japan? I'm getting confusing reports that Japan might vote in favor under US pressure...
 
ofcourse yes,i dont doubt it,and this is the first time am talking to a pakistani and i feel proud to be atleast an atom in the relationbridge between the two nations
 
Guys, what do you think about Japan? I'm getting confusing reports that Japan might vote in favor under US pressure...

Neo sir, any way 1 more week we will come to know the decision:cheers:
 
ofcourse yes,i dont doubt it,and this is the first time am talking to a pakistani and i feel proud to be atleast an atom in the relationbridge between the two nations

Thanks for your reply, I'm a supporter of 123 Agreement as it will create a precedent for China and France and pave way for Pakistan to strike a similar deal in time. :cheers:

Monday, August 04, 2008
Japan may back India at NSG

Japanese Foreign Ministry spokesman says his country understands New Delhi's energy needs and would adopt an approach that strengthens the non-proliferation regime

New Delhi: India could expect the support of Japan at the upcoming Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) meeting. A senior official of the country on Monday said Tokyo understands New Delhi's energy needs and would adopt an approach that strengthens the non-proliferation regime.

Giving enough hints about his country's expected position at the August 21-22 meeting of NSG in Vienna, Japanese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kazuo Kodama noted that Tokyo had gone with consensus at the IAEA Board of Governors meeting on India-specific safeguards despite having reservations on non-proliferation issues.

Kodama told reporters here that Japan understands India's needs for energy and aspiration for nuclear power in view of growing economy and would "actively participate" in the NSG deliberations when the grouping considers a waiver for India.

The Japanese position would be such, which would strengthen, rather than hamper, the universal non-proliferation system.

The statement is significant as the US, Russia, Britain, France and several other countries have been maintaining that giving a waiver to India would strengthen the non-proliferation regime by bringing New Delhi within the system.

Japan's support to India's case is vital as the NSG operates by consensus and opposition by any of the 45 member countries will abort New Delhi's plans to have civilian nuclear cooperation with the international community. Japan, the only country to have suffered nuclear weapon attacks, has strong views on non-proliferation but it has conveyed to Indian government earlier that it would not create hurdles.

Kodama's comments came on the eve of talks between External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee and his Japanese counterpart Masshiko Koumura here when the nuclear issue is expected to come up.

At the talks as part of security dialogue, Japan is likely to make an announcement on a fresh chunk of Overseas Development Assistance for India.

Kodama said Japan was keen to strengthen the strategic relationship with India.

N-deal: Japan may back India at NSG - National News – News – MSN India - News
 
don mension it dude we are friends and lets set an example for our nations:tup:
 
Neo sir, any way 1 more week we will come to know the decision:cheers:

What are the alternatives incase the NSG vote goes against India? Will you accelerate the throium based FBR programme?
 
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sorry even i have that doubt,but am an aviation enthusiast i can clear boubts in that field
 
What are the alternatives incase the NSG vote goes against India? Will you excellerate the throium based FBR programme?

The deal is not only about power, it is more to do with dual use techs that have been denied to india. If it does not get cleared, well nothing much to worry about, as usual we need to re invent the wheel
 
What are the alternatives incase the NSG vote goes against India? Will you excellerate the throium based FBR programme?

We cannot accelerate the FBR. As of now its experimental, it is set to go critical either in 2009 or 10, i forget. Commercial and efficient use of Thorium is still atleast a couple of decades away.

India will put more money in mining of Uranium.
But this deal is about nuclear fuel as much as it is about removing the sanctions on the dual use items. Those need to go ASAP.
 

VIENNA, Aug 14: The United States has proposed to waive a ban on nuclear trade with India without conditions, such as compliance with a nuclear test ban or UN inspections, but diplomats said on Thursday the draft was unlikely to pass.

The draft, circulated among members of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) and unveiled late on Wednesday by an arms control advocacy, will be discussed by the NSG next week in Vienna.

A green light by the 45-nation NSG, which operates by consensus, is necessary for the 2005 US-India deal on nuclear trade to proceed to US Congress for final ratification.

It would lift a 34-year embargo on nuclear trade for civilian purposes with the Asian nuclear power, which has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty and has tested atomic bombs.

But diplomats from several NSG member states said the draft fell behind earlier US proposals, had unacceptable clauses and omissions, and went against existing American laws on the deal. A diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said: “There are no conditions. Obviously what is missing is that (the waiver) is void if there is another atomic test.”

A second diplomat said: “I think a majority of countries feel that the current draft is very weak and there is no conditionality at all... I don’t really think that the US expects this draft to pass.”

If the waiver does not get NSG approval next week or at a second meeting likely early next month, it may not get ratified by the end of September, when US Congress adjourns for November elections, and could face indefinite limbo.

The draft was published by the US-based Arms Control Association (Arms Control Association | The authoritative source on arms control since 1971.) late on Wednesday. A spokeswoman for the US mission in Vienna declined to comment.

A senior Indian foreign ministry official said they were happy with the draft. “We are hopeful the deal will make it to US Congress by Sept 8,” the official said.

Several NSG nations are unlikely to approve an exemption unless it makes clear certain events — such as India testing a nuclear bomb or not allowing inspections at its nuclear facilities — would trigger a review.

Such demands are also stipulated in US legislation regarding the US-India deal — known as the Hyde Act — which requires permanent, unconditional inspections in India and says trade must stop if it tests another atom bomb.

A powerful congressional leader wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice last week saying if the waiver does not spell out such minimum conditions, the Bush administration should not bother seeking NSG approval before it leaves office in January.But the draft states only that NSG members “have taken note of steps that India has taken voluntarily”, including its unilateral moratorium on nuclear tests and its commitment to allow inspections by the UN nuclear watchdog. It mentions no consequences in case India does not adhere to the measures.—Reuters
 
VIENNA, Aug 14: The United States has proposed to waive a ban on nuclear trade with India without conditions, such as compliance with a nuclear test ban or UN inspections, but diplomats said on Thursday the draft was unlikely to pass.

Now this is way to much, its practically giving India a freecard to do whatever she wants with nuclear ToT.
No NSG other than USA will fall for that.
 
Now this is way to much, its practically giving India a freecard to do whatever she wants with nuclear ToT.
No NSG other than USA will fall for that.

19 of the IAEA members are also members of the NSG and they did vote for the deal. I dont think that they are going to express any reservation on the same draft.
 

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