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India's Nuclear Agreement

They cannot keep selling civilian reactors mate. The grandfather clauses on which Russia and China were supplying reactors to India and Pakistan have a limit. There is a limit, China cannot sell beyond the stipulated number of reactors.
 
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China has only sold one reactor, Cashnupp II and helped us complete the Cashnupp I which was abandoned by France in 1977. There's room for a few more and all we want is 6-8 imported reactors, rest will be built in Pakistan.
 
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Didn't know you can predict the future mate...just a decade ago even the thought of US-Indo nuclear deal would have been ludicrous...today its reality...but tomorrow will be ours.

Yeah, here's wishing Pakistan all the best
 
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China has only sold one reactor, Cashnupp II and helped us complete the Cashnupp I which was abandoned by France in 1977. There's room for a few more and all we want is 6-8 imported reactors, rest will be built in Pakistan.

True Pakistan get get N reactors built but would also has to think about Uranium to run it.
 
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True, but uranium isn't the issue for a long time to come, our nuclear power generation projection is merely 8.800MW by 2020.

There are significant Uranium ore deposits in three provinces and that does not include Balochistan which is still largely unexplored.

Btw we do possess nuclear enrichment and processing technology.
 
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True, but uranium isn't the issue for a long time to come, our nuclear power generation projection is merely 8.800MW by 2020.

There are significant Uranium ore deposits in three provinces and that does not include Balochistan which is still largely unexplored.

Btw we do possess nuclear enrichment and processing technology.

That is good in that case Pakistan may not even require NSG approval. But it would need it for further investments and latest technologies.
 
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China will continue to sell civil reactors to Pakistan for the time being as long we place them under IAEA's safeguard and that's enough for now. No one actually knows the how the ball will roll as aftermath of Indo-US deal has yet to begin. IAEA and NSG stand weak on NPT and can't bully us anylonger on nuclear issue.

In the mean time our focus is on indigenously built Khushab heavy water based Pu reactors to counter India's growing nuclear arsenal. First reactor is in fully operational, second almost nearing completion as work has begun on the third one. Each reactor has the capacity to peoduce weapon grade Pu for 8-12 bombs per year.

I'm least concerned about the future.
till now Pakistan's nuclear cooperation is with china and china alone, as things will continue, there will be sanctions coming from side of US which will limit Pakistan's nuclear capability if not diminishing it.
probably there will be increased pressure from all nations on china to limit these cooperation with pakistan only time will tell
 
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True, but uranium isn't the issue for a long time to come, our nuclear power generation projection is merely 8.800MW by 2020.

There are significant Uranium ore deposits in three provinces and that does not include Balochistan which is still largely unexplored.

Btw we do possess nuclear enrichment and processing technology.


Pakistan's EPR is not even close to the research India has done in EPR and FBR, yet India lags behind in EPR technologies and would buy them along with the reactors.
 
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Rice to visit India after approval of U.S.-India nuclear deal


English_Xinhua 2008-10-02 23:51:41 Print

WASHINGTON, Oct. 2 (Xinhua) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will begin a three-day visit to India on Friday to mark the approval of a landmark U.S.-India civil nuclear cooperation agreement, the State Department said Thursday.

During the Oct. 3-5 visit, Rice will meet with Indian leaders, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

The visit comes after the U.S. Senate voted Wednesday to approve the deal with India. The House of Representatives has already approved the pact.

The deal, considered a key part of U.S. President George W. Bush's foreign policy legacy, was a step the Bush administration believes will secure a strategic partnership with India.

Critics, however, fear that the pact would deal a blow to global efforts to contain the spread of nuclear weapons as it will give the green light to India to import nuclear fuel and technology.

Washington and New Delhi reached an agreement on civil nuclear cooperation in March 2006, under which India will get access to U.S. civil nuclear technology on condition that India is to separate nuclear facilities for civilian and military use and open its nuclear facilities for inspection.

Following India's approval of the deal in July, the U.S. House of Representatives approved the agreement on Sept. 27. The 45-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group agreed early this month to lift a nuclear trade embargo on India.

On Aug. 1, the International Atomic Energy Agency agreed to sign a nuclear safeguards agreement with India, a move seen as giving the green light to India-U.S. nuclear cooperation.

Rice to visit India after approval of U.S.-India nuclear deal_English_Xinhua
 
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^^her visit is to ensure that they don't lose contracts to french


Mr. benard, you are little bit to late. French deal is already signed. What you mean is the Russia deal, who is waiting in line.
 
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Mr. benard, you are little bit to late. French deal is already signed. What you mean is the Russia deal, who is waiting in line.

Mr jeypore i know about the french deal , and the deal with russians is just a formality,
I think you didnt understood what i meant
no contracts are yet given to any french company to install nuke plants,Rice will ensure that these go to US companies.. and she indicated that on various occasions, and thats what you wont find anywhere in headlines.
 
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Indians ecstatic with US deal

By Brajesh Upadhyay
BBC News, Washington

The US Congress has ended India's three-decade-long nuclear isolation with an overwhelming Senate vote in favour of the Indo-US civilian nuclear agreement.

The 86-13 vote now paves the way for President George W Bush to sign the deal into law.

His administration has pushed for the agreement aggressively over the past three years.

The deal enables American companies to sell nuclear reactors, fuel and technology to India after a ban of more than three decades on such trade.

Major shift

It also marks a major shift in US foreign policy towards a country where relations in the past have been marked by mutual distrust.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is due to visit India on Saturday where she will ink the pact with her Indian counterpart, Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee.

The Indian ambassador to the US, Ronen Sen, who has been working on the deal since it was conceptualised in the summer of 2005, says it marks the "the highest point" in his career.

Mr Sen was the secretary of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission when the US decided to cut off the fuel supply for a nuclear reactor in the country.

"Finally, things have come full circle," he said, arguing that the deal was not just good for India and the US but also for the wider world.

Several prominent Indian Americans, who had lobbied aggressively for the deal, were jubilant.

"It's the greatest alliance of the 21st century,'' said Swadesh Chatterjee of the Indo-US Friendship Council. A North Carolina resident, Mr Chatterjee says he made 69 trips to Washington DC in the past three years.

"The Indian community is usually very divided but we have shown that when we put our heads together, we can do miracles,'' said Mr Chatterjee.

Sanjay Puri of the US India Political Action Committee is equally ecstatic. "This accord will bring a major shift in world's direction," he said.

Mr Puri and his group were instrumental in mobilising support for the deal and organised a gathering of Congress members to press for it once it was cleared by the 45-member Nuclear Suppliers Group last month.

'Misuse technology'

While the deal can boast of bipartisan support in both the House and the Senate, there were dissenting voices.

Critics say the deal allows India to expand its nuclear power industry without requiring it to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) as other nations must.

They also fear it could boost India's nuclear bomb stockpile by freeing its domestic fuel for weapons.

Democrat senator Byron Dorgan says the US is telling the world that, like India "you can misuse American nuclear technology and secretly develop nuclear weapons, you can build a nuclear arsenal in defiance of the United Nation resolution and you will be welcomed as someone exhibiting good behaviour with an agreement with the US".

Mr Dorgan tried to introduce an amendment calling for the end of US nuclear trade if India detonates a nuclear device in future but the Senate rejected it.

Supporters of the deal say it will boost nuclear trade between two countries.

"It also means that up to a quarter of a million jobs could be generated in US once the trade gets going," says Swadesh Chatterjee.

In the past three years the deal has gone through major ups and downs and overcame major political opposition in India. But things looked much brighter for the supporters of the deal when it got approval from the Nuclear Suppliers Group on 6 September.

The NSG green signal opened the door for other bilateral pacts and earlier this week India signed a nuclear deal with France. Russia has also been lobbying hard on behalf of its firms.

However, it's believed the top firms to benefit from the over a billion dollars' worth of expected trade would be US companies as it's the US that has pulled India out of its nuclear isolation.

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The deal marks a major shift in US foreign policy towards India

NUCLEAR POWER IN INDIA
  • India has 14 reactors in commercial operation and nine under construction
  • Nuclear power supplies about 3% of India's electricity
  • By 2050, nuclear power is expected to provide 25% of the country's electricity
  • India has limited coal and uranium reserves
  • Its huge thorium reserves - about 25% of the world's total - are expected to fuel its nuclear power programme long-term
Source: Uranium Information Center
 
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^^Its huge thorium reserves - about 25% of the world's total - are expected to fuel its nuclear power programme long-term
fast breeder reactors are now a reality , only GOI funding is required, if deal was not signed,India was going to build many fast breeders which are unique of their types in the world, and this could have limited foreign dominance, but US companies really tapped a huge market and at right time
 
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