Does India lodged protest to other countries?
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so where does me understanding the essence of business arise.
It was you who said that as China opposed the deal so it should be prepared to loose projects in India.
Nobody was bringing that point here dear.
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I have a question what you think guys if India go for shoping from other countries other than US, will US be agreeing to that easily ????
Dosnt have guts to loose any soft cornor if those other countries having for her
If so, isn't it more bad for India than for others?
India must have forgotten who is the most important neighbor even while it's been nurturing *** for decades in shadow side.
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It was you who said that as China opposed the deal so it should be prepared to loose projects in India.
Nobody was bringing that point here dear.
That was in response to.
If you understand the essence of business, it is all about profit. If India opts for less profit or even for losing money, so be it.
Btw India did overcome other countries apprehensions that was required because they were part of NSG. It does not mean India will be dealing with all of them.
But Chinese stand at the Vienna meeting came as a surprise to India especially after Chinese President Hu Jintato and Prime Minister Wen Jiabao had assured Manmohan Singh that their country would take a constructive stand on the issue.
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India has walked into a trap: BJP
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Delhi has surrendered its right to further nuclear tests: Sinha
A day of historic shame for India, says BJP leader
Cost of nuclear power will be
very high
NEW DELHI: The Bharatiya Janata Party on Saturday said it would offer its structured response to the Nuclear Suppliers Group waiver for India after it saw the fine print of the text.
Its immediate view was that India had “walked into a nuclear non-proliferation trap” and had “surrendered its right to a further nuclear test.”
Party leader Yashwant Sinha was not at all optimistic of any gain India might have made with the India-U.S. nuclear deal.
The three points that were of utmost importance were: right to exercise the option to test, availability of enrichment and reprocessing technology and dual-use technology, and uninterrupted and guaranteed fuel supply for the life-time of the reactors India might buy.
Hyde Act
Asked whether the BJP would be satisfied if these three concerns were met by the waiver, Mr. Sinha said he believed that was not possible. The Hyde Act ensured that India would not get these benefits.
Mr. Sinha said: “The United States will ensure that no other country, be it Russia or France, engage in nuclear commerce with India on terms different from those spelt out in the Hyde Act.”
“Punitive steps”
In the event of India going for another nuclear test the steps that the United States and other countries would take would be “punitive in the extreme.”
He believed that with this deal, India’s nuclear technology would be “frozen at its current level forever.”
There was always a continuous need for upgrading technology and “we cannot say that after 1998 Pokhran we have all the technology we need and will never need to test again.”
The BJP leader described Saturday, the day India won a waiver at the meeting of the NSG in Vienna, as a “day of historic shame for India.” The legacy of Indira Gandhi’s Pokhran I and Atal Bihari Vajpayee’s Pokhran II had been destroyed, Mr. Sinha said.
National interest
He said “national interest had been surrendered by the Manmohan Singh government.”
Finally, on the benefit of getting nuclear energy for civilian use, Mr. Sinha wondered what the cost of each unit of nuclear power would be. He warned that the benefits of nuclear energy in terms of additional electricity would not become apparent for a decade or more and the cost would be very high.
The Hindu : Front Page : India has walked into a trap: BJP
Neena Vyas
Delhi has surrendered its right to further nuclear tests: Sinha
A day of historic shame for India, says BJP leader
Cost of nuclear power will be
very high
NEW DELHI: The Bharatiya Janata Party on Saturday said it would offer its structured response to the Nuclear Suppliers Group waiver for India after it saw the fine print of the text.
Its immediate view was that India had “walked into a nuclear non-proliferation trap” and had “surrendered its right to a further nuclear test.”
Party leader Yashwant Sinha was not at all optimistic of any gain India might have made with the India-U.S. nuclear deal.
The three points that were of utmost importance were: right to exercise the option to test, availability of enrichment and reprocessing technology and dual-use technology, and uninterrupted and guaranteed fuel supply for the life-time of the reactors India might buy.
Hyde Act
Asked whether the BJP would be satisfied if these three concerns were met by the waiver, Mr. Sinha said he believed that was not possible. The Hyde Act ensured that India would not get these benefits.
Mr. Sinha said: “The United States will ensure that no other country, be it Russia or France, engage in nuclear commerce with India on terms different from those spelt out in the Hyde Act.”
“Punitive steps”
In the event of India going for another nuclear test the steps that the United States and other countries would take would be “punitive in the extreme.”
He believed that with this deal, India’s nuclear technology would be “frozen at its current level forever.”
There was always a continuous need for upgrading technology and “we cannot say that after 1998 Pokhran we have all the technology we need and will never need to test again.”
The BJP leader described Saturday, the day India won a waiver at the meeting of the NSG in Vienna, as a “day of historic shame for India.” The legacy of Indira Gandhi’s Pokhran I and Atal Bihari Vajpayee’s Pokhran II had been destroyed, Mr. Sinha said.
National interest
He said “national interest had been surrendered by the Manmohan Singh government.”
Finally, on the benefit of getting nuclear energy for civilian use, Mr. Sinha wondered what the cost of each unit of nuclear power would be. He warned that the benefits of nuclear energy in terms of additional electricity would not become apparent for a decade or more and the cost would be very high.
The Hindu : Front Page : India has walked into a trap: BJP
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A landmark decision’
VIENNA: A top United States official has termed the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) waiver a landmark decision that would strengthen the non-proliferation regime and tackle the global challenge of clean energy.
It was an important moment for strengthening the global non-proliferation regime, John Rood, U.S. acting Under Secretary of State for Arms Control, said.
He said the “very important” statement of External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Friday, which spoke of India’s commitment towards strengthening the non-proliferation system, played a major role in the discussions at the NSG.
Members of the NSG approached the issue in a serious manner. “Countries had particular concerns, particular historical experience but they approached the issue with the required constructive and cooperative attitude,” he said. — PTI
The Hindu : Front Page : ‘A landmark decision’
VIENNA: A top United States official has termed the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) waiver a landmark decision that would strengthen the non-proliferation regime and tackle the global challenge of clean energy.
It was an important moment for strengthening the global non-proliferation regime, John Rood, U.S. acting Under Secretary of State for Arms Control, said.
He said the “very important” statement of External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Friday, which spoke of India’s commitment towards strengthening the non-proliferation system, played a major role in the discussions at the NSG.
Members of the NSG approached the issue in a serious manner. “Countries had particular concerns, particular historical experience but they approached the issue with the required constructive and cooperative attitude,” he said. — PTI
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Conditions of Hyde Act remain: Karat
One has to wait for the full text of waiver to know its ramifications for India: CPI
NEW DELHI: The Left parties on Saturday conveyed their disagreement with the decision of NSG waiver for India, with the Communist Party of India (Marxist) stating it is “neither clean nor unconditional” while the CPI described it as a “black day.”
In his brief statement, CPI(M) general secretary Prakash Karat said the waiver could not be claimed to be clean since the conditionalities of the Henry J Hyde Act remained.
He said the extent to which the conditions formed part of the waiver would be known only once its text was made available.
“It is surrender towards operationalising the nuclear deal [with the United States of America],” the CPI(M) leader said.
“Premature”
The Communist Party of India did not agree with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s declaration that the waiver was a “historic decision.” It was not only premature but a deliberate attempt to hide the adverse amendments incorporated in the final draft.
“One has to wait for the full text of the waiver to understand all its ramifications for India,” the party Central Secretariat said in a statement. It was quite clear that the suo motu statement by External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Friday had been accepted by the NSG as a commitment by India to surrender its right to future research and development.
Besides, it seemed that India had given up its claim on transferring the dual use technology, the CPI said and cited the Bush administration’s letter to the U.S. Congress that Washington would never allow transfer of sensitive technology for reprocessing and enrichment to India.
“A black day”
“If that has been accepted for NSG waiver, then it is not a historic day but a ‘black day’ for India as far as our nuclear programme is concerned. This waiver will kill our efforts to develop the nuclear technology based on thorium,” the statement said.
The party reiterated that the government should not proceed with operationalising the 123 agreement until all ramifications of the NSG waiver became clear.
The Hindu : Front Page : Conditions of Hyde Act remain: Karat
One has to wait for the full text of waiver to know its ramifications for India: CPI
NEW DELHI: The Left parties on Saturday conveyed their disagreement with the decision of NSG waiver for India, with the Communist Party of India (Marxist) stating it is “neither clean nor unconditional” while the CPI described it as a “black day.”
In his brief statement, CPI(M) general secretary Prakash Karat said the waiver could not be claimed to be clean since the conditionalities of the Henry J Hyde Act remained.
He said the extent to which the conditions formed part of the waiver would be known only once its text was made available.
“It is surrender towards operationalising the nuclear deal [with the United States of America],” the CPI(M) leader said.
“Premature”
The Communist Party of India did not agree with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s declaration that the waiver was a “historic decision.” It was not only premature but a deliberate attempt to hide the adverse amendments incorporated in the final draft.
“One has to wait for the full text of the waiver to understand all its ramifications for India,” the party Central Secretariat said in a statement. It was quite clear that the suo motu statement by External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Friday had been accepted by the NSG as a commitment by India to surrender its right to future research and development.
Besides, it seemed that India had given up its claim on transferring the dual use technology, the CPI said and cited the Bush administration’s letter to the U.S. Congress that Washington would never allow transfer of sensitive technology for reprocessing and enrichment to India.
“A black day”
“If that has been accepted for NSG waiver, then it is not a historic day but a ‘black day’ for India as far as our nuclear programme is concerned. This waiver will kill our efforts to develop the nuclear technology based on thorium,” the statement said.
The party reiterated that the government should not proceed with operationalising the 123 agreement until all ramifications of the NSG waiver became clear.
The Hindu : Front Page : Conditions of Hyde Act remain: Karat
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US based body says India has not got 'clean waiver'
Indo-Asian News Service
New Delhi, September 07, 2008
First Published: 15:35 IST(7/9/2008)
Last Updated: 17:22 IST(7/9/2008)
Call it words of frustration or a reality check on the euphoria that flowed out of Vienna, but the US-based Arms Control Association claims that India has not got the "clean" or "unconditional" waiver it demanded from the 45-member Nuclear Suppliers' Group (NSG).
At the end of the NSG's marathon 76-hour meeting in Vienna Saturday, the powerful cartel that controls global supply of nuclear fuel, equipments and technologies awarded the "waiver" to India.
Despite being elated at the historic decision that ended India's three decades of nuclear isolation and opened the doors for trade between New Delhi and NSG members, Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon refused to say whether it was a "clean waiver" for India.
"The NSG statement on India does not meet the ACA's standards or that of a large number of NSG states nor should it satisfy key US Congressional leaders, but it is not the 'clean' and 'unconditional' waiver India was demanding either," the Association said in a statement on its website.
It went on to say that in the days to come there will be "serious differences" between India and the NSG members about the interpretations of the guidelines as many of the issues were not fully resolved at the group's meeting in Vienna.
"Because the negotiations were tough and the real differences not fully resolved, there will likely be serious differences between India and most of the NSG about the interpretation of what the guidelines allow and don't allow and what the consequences of any violation of India's non-proliferation and disarmament commitments would be," the ACA said.
But it also added: "This outcome is a failure of the NSG as a whole, the US delegation, and the NSG chair Germany."
The Association, which has been a strong opponent of concessions to India, said that from the statements issued by the NSG, and some of its members such as Austria, China, Germany, Ireland, Japan, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Switzerland and "others" - it was evident that for all "practical purposes" there were problems ahead for India.
The ACA listed some of them:
*NSG states should not and will not likely engage in "full" nuclear trade with India.
*NSG states should and very likely would terminate nuclear trade with India if it resumes testing
*India's compliance with it pre-2005 non-proliferation commitments and the implementation of bilateral trade with India will be reviewed on a regular (probably annual) basis by the NSG.
To explain why this will happen, the Arms Control Association said: "Most states will try to remain consistent with US law, policy, and the US interpretations of its bilateral trade agreement with India."
It added: "Collectively, these bar the transfer of enrichment, reprocessing, and heavy water technology to Indian national facilities, the Hyde Act also mandates a cutoff of US trade if India resumes testing, and according to the State Department's Jan 16 responses to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, US fuel supply assurances will be invalid if India tests for any reason."
The ACA claimed that some of the NSG members who were reluctant to give their waiver for India had made it clear how the group's policy on India will be implemented.
It said: "Japan noted that the exemption for India was decided on the condition that India continues to observe its commitments, especially its nuclear test moratorium pledge
"Japan noted that if India resumed testing, 'the logical consequence is to terminate trade,' most of the other statements also made this point."
The Association pointed out that Germany, "and perhaps others," have made it clear that they expected India to take "further non-proliferation and disarmament measures".
It said this also included "the entry into force of the CTBT (Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty) and a termination of fissile material production for weapons".
The provisions of the CTBT makes it clear that it will not come "into force" or cannot be implemented unless a country like India also signs and ratifies. India has neither signed nor ratified the treaty.
US based body says India has not got 'clean waiver'- Hindustan Times'
Indian energy market is arguably very fat. But as a developing country, it cant afford luxurious equipments. Both are reflected in the fact that Indias biggest unclear power unit is of 1kMW capacity, and most are of 200MWs.
Western countries such as US, probably France and Canada etc. should be the main suppliers of equipments, fuel and technologies due to status quo. China, as a member of NSG, can still get some marginal benefits guess Bush might have affirmed Hu of profit sharing.
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US based body says India has not got 'clean waiver'
You seriously like Indian media as you mostly prefer to post them for even Pakistani matters which is contrary to your claims.
back to topic - Not everyone will be happy with the deal in India Communist are not happy, BJP shows its not happy just because they are in opposition. Similary in US some organizations may not be happy.
But truth is India got NSG waiver and it were 45 countries who mattered including China and they have all given approval.
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