India's navy using the Chabahar port

[Max]

LOL what a retard why would Iran will help India? That too when China will be investing more there.
If the OP and writers knew our history then Iran has always takes a more pro Pakistan stand than India's and given our increasing economical relationship with Iran , they might take a neutral stand in future conflict between India and Pak but thats where it ends.

If u wanna write your loony theories better stick with India Afghan relationship people might buy that.

Just Wahhabi *** on fire ... no need to take it serious

 

[Serpentine]

We have already made "brave" options and the pain you are facing is evident wrt Afghanistan.


Iran is a smart player... They won't give you a "naval base"... @Serpentine. @haman10. @Daneshmand

Chahbahar for them is pure economics ... Apart from that they have sale easy opted for CPEC...

Pakistan Is The “Zipper” Of Pan-Eurasian Integration | Russian Institute for Strategic Studies
(Do read the recent report by RISS- your once "Strategic russian friends" are also opting for it.. Along with the Eurasian block)..

I wanted to start writing how this news is not true and is fabricated, then I saw who the OP is, I don't think it's necassary anymore.

 

[MadDog]

I wanted to start writing how this news is not true and is fabricated, then I saw who the OP is, I don't think it's necassary anymore.

I personally don't think Iran would give the port to Indian navy, bcuz it has shown interest in joining CPEC, which would allow it to sell oil/gas to China, will give it an overland route to China via Pakistan.
However Ajit Doval (India's NSA) had met President Rouhani, asking Indian navy be allowed to use the port, but Iranian reaction (most probably denying this access to Indian navy) is not made public as of yet.
Secret trips to West Asia

One thing to be mentioned here, is Ajit Doval is the same person who went on a secret trip to Iraq two times to negotiate the release of Indian prisoners by Islamic State, intriguingly soon after his visit, IS started making inroads into Afghanistan, to counter Taliban and threaten all neighbors of Afghanistan. Doval has publicly called out to support Baloch separatists & Taliban insurgency to engage to Pakistan, has openly claimed to live undercover in Pakistan for 7 years (obviously an exaggerated claim) , has claimed in a speech that in case of a nuclear war with Pak, some indians might survive to carry on their civilization while Pakistan can be wiped off.
Such a lunatic who is sitting at such a sensitive post in Indian regime, is by all means a security threat to this entire region.

 

[Kambojaric]

Yes we can

I believe the below map is more accurate now that Pakistan's seabed territory has expanded (source: Pakistan seabed territory grows by 50,000 square kilometres - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[Mughal-Prince]

I believe Iranies are not butt heads to do some serious shit and push us further towards middle east as we already had taken enough of sh!t at Yemen conflict and believe me that is only for Iranis. History tells that how bad a$$ Pakistan is in resolving others conflict and in Yemen we didnt do it just for our neighbours. If they seriusly wana involve in some kind of sh!t like that then they may kiss their a$$ goodbye in not only Yemen but a lot of other places as well. Believe me Iraq will be another story in no time if and only if Pakistan involved ever and I knew Iranis will never want it.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I believe the below map is more accurate now that Pakistan's seabed territory has expanded (source: Pakistan seabed territory grows by 50,000 square kilometres - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

My friend,that is EEZ..EEZ is part of International Water,though you've "Special Economic Rights" in this zone.It has nothing to do with Stopping International Shipping or diverting.Only in territorial water,one has such rights,and that is called Territorial Water which is 22.2 km from coast.

I believe Iranies are not butt heads to do some serious shit and push us further towards middle east as we already had taken enough of sh!t at Yemen conflict and believe me that is only for Iranis. History tells that how bad a$$ Pakistan is in resolving others conflict and in Yemen we didnt do it just for our neighbours. If they seriusly wana involve in some kind of sh!t like that then they may kiss their a$$ goodbye in not only Yemen but a lot of other places as well. Believe me Iraq will be another story in no time if and only if Pakistan involved ever and I knew Iranis will never want it.

Thats kind of "Empty Threat"..you see,Iran is repeatedly asking to stop funding "Terrorism and Shelling".did Pakistan pay any heed towards it?Pakistanis openly abuse Iranis here.Even if Iran gives its port to Indian Navy to access,so what??Is not so many Pakistanis are here supporting "Giving Gwadar to China"??I doubt Pakistan ever cared if Iran/India would be pleased with that Idea or not..

The thing is,Pakistanis think that they can do whatever they want but every member should pay heed what Pakistan has to say on each matter,or else they can harm them.but for fact,Pakistan is getting so isolated that in near future,there will be no "Pakistani Factor" among neighbours.

And Pakistanis didn't take part in Yemen Conflict only for Iran??Does that mean Pakistan is supporting those "Houthis" indirectly??

 

[ThaniOruvan]

So Iran is showing its real face for Muslims
They are Allie of India since long time.
Iran believed that Pakistan Trust KSA or Arabs more then Iranis.
It is still time to give them a strong message they are cowards. And Coward can only Bark
Our Main issue in this subject is not India its Iran the Munafiq of Muslim Umma


Pakistan is going to allow their land for CPEC and Russian Trade why Indian have problem with this..................
We are rival or Enemy since our Birth and we can forgive enemy but do not forgot them as enemies
That's what India and Pakistan do Well it will be fun

India has issues with CPEC only because it passes through Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.
How can Pakistan create an economic corridor over our forcibly occupied land ?
Other than that India has no issues at all......Pakistan grows or goes to ditch is not at all our concern
as we ourselves have numerous challenges to overcome.

Its not the nose..

Man you didn't have to reiterate it.
Isn't my statement quite straightforward ?

 

[zebra7]

Seems to me that the whole of Pakistan is sleeping.

Look, when we were sleeping what India did:

NORTH: They entered Tajikistan and built their base there.
SOUTH:They setup their listening stations in Oman.
WEST:Now they are Irans best friends, building a strategic port.
EAST:These barbarians are sitting right there.

If you all dont see what is happening slowly, one step at a time, I am sorry to say, our future holds many sorrow. Enough is enough, we must put our foot down.

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[ramu]

No self respecting country will allow its territory for military use by a foreign country. Indians will be fooling themselves if they believe Iran is giving India a free hand in Chabahar. However, it is equally true that the trade with India and Iran includes oil and it is a win-win situation. If India stays put in Chabahar, there are several military gains that are not explicit. Intelligence gathering on Pakistan Navy and Chinese actions will be simple. India will be able to escort trade assets with military equipment and it is legit.
In the unlikely situation of war, India will not have to make more moves but just take offensive positions within the docking range of Chabahar. Pakistan when it is fighting India cannot open another front with Iran. India will get away with lot of advantage without firing a bullet. All this will get factored into potential conflict simulations and Pakistan will be very worried. Understandably so. There are more gains but not worth writing them all. Some are best left for Pak's imagination.

For India, first this is the gateway to Central Asia (until Pakistan resists land route to Afghanistan). But in general it is an antidote to Gawadar port as Pakistan will lose the monopoly it has and trade will be fair and clean. Chabahar is in the interest of all those who want better connectivity including NATO.

 

[haviZsultan]

@DESERT FIGHTER @haviZsultan How do you want me to reason with these people ?

Keep avoiding the obstacles that come your way in this Pakistan Iran relationship-said user has been banned. He is part of the problem rather than the solution. Shias and Sunnis are one.

 

[OTTOMAN]

I personally don't think Iran would give the port to Indian navy, bcuz it has shown interest in joining CPEC, which would allow it to sell oil/gas to China, will give it an overland route to China via Pakistan.
However Ajit Doval (India's NSA) had met President Rouhani, asking Indian navy be allowed to use the port, but Iranian reaction (most probably denying this access to Indian navy) is not made public as of yet.
Secret trips to West Asia

One thing to be mentioned here, is Ajit Doval is the same person who went on a secret trip to Iraq two times to negotiate the release of Indian prisoners by Islamic State, intriguingly soon after his visit, IS started making inroads into Afghanistan, to counter Taliban and threaten all neighbors of Afghanistan. Doval has publicly called out to support Baloch separatists & Taliban insurgency to engage to Pakistan, has openly claimed to live undercover in Pakistan for 7 years (obviously an exaggerated claim) , has claimed in a speech that in case of a nuclear war with Pak, some indians might survive to carry on their civilization while Pakistan can be wiped off.
Such a lunatic who is sitting at such a sensitive post in Indian regime, is by all means a security threat to this entire region.

If all the persian cats of Pakistan Afghanistan origin would have read beyond the title, they would know thread is based on personal interview of India's national security advisor and other defence officials are quoted.
World out of this forum knows, CREDIBILITY of qouted source is far above than any thing coming from closed state's oral brigade.
If news source is misqouting Ajit Davol than, he may have sued English source, which apparently has not happened.
Who knows what goes inside closed state! other than US, no one have blind trust on Qum... so sorry, no words or manipulation can be convincing enough to prove Iran's innocence, in such sensetive matter. Indian navy was there and its a fact! What they delivered there is a secret, which Pakistan will never know. However strategic policy has to be made on principles of threat perception, which certainly is there, principally building a port next to Pakistan's strategic port reflect nothing but ill intentions. Iran already have bandar abbas for trade.....why indians and northern alluance cannot dock there?
I would not trust the unholy alliance of iran,india and northern alliance for a moment and would also be suspicious of those coming to defend this unholy allaiance.
Remaining news sources are indeed from india, and i want indian members to come forward and declare them flawed sources!

 

[Chojun]

These Mullahs and their advisors in Tehran know Pakistan very well and have learned the hard way , especially after their post-1979 activities they started inside (and around) Pakistan, which Pakistan terminated . Don't start none, won't be none.......

 

[Super Falcon]

Dont worry russia and china pur pressure on iran to not india use chabhar it might bd used by russian they need hot water and iran rissian weapons and china say to russia put pressure on iran iran will choose russia in future

Thesr are int games we must play russia primary objctive its interest not indian interest

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

So now tell me how the hell is Miss India going to juxtapose itself by being sleeping with USA, getting boned by Isreal from behind and at the same time wanting to give Iran a blow job?

Post of the day.

 

[k_arura]

I think the time has come when Pakistan must be brave and take action. We are being surround and will soon face existential crisis soon. We must engage this enemy in Afghanistan and Iran. Its now or never.

Drop a nuclear bomb on them????

Well said. Afghanistan worked well. Now we must give the other Indian ally on our west the same treatment. We cannot allow Indian assets placed permanently on our immediate western border just a few kilometers away. If we passively accept it we must live with it for life. Iran still does not have the nuclear weapon. I say its now or never.

NORTH: They entered Tajikistan and built their base there.
SOUTH:They setup their listening stations in Oman.
WEST:Now they are Irans best friends, building a strategic port.
EAST:These barbarians are sitting right there.

If you all dont see what is happening slowly, one step at a time, I am sorry to say, our future holds many sorrow. Enough is enough, we must put our foot down.

But hasn't Pakistan been putting its foot down EVER since its inception??