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India’s missile defence system can bankrupt Pakistan

After spending 15 to 20 billion dollars/yr for decades and $100 millions per test Americans are nowhere near anything solid (claims are just claims) India's fictitious missile defense system developed by the same geniuses who couldn't even produce a decent SAM system will not hurt Pakistan, but it can bankrupt India, if Indian were actually to spend billions they don't have to develop one.
 
LMAO These Indians are smoking some real cow dung.
no rather indias enemies are living in false make beleve world where they think india wont strike where it hurts most dont worry we have everything that scares hell out of any potential invader in todays world and thas the main reason why even after so many problems our armed forces seem to be facing neither PLAAF nor PAF/PA has gatherred guts to attack and finish india once and for all ...... ever wonderred why and why andwhat stopped musharraf from using neukes in 1999 ?
 
India’s missile defence system can bankrupt Pakistan
30 May 2016 RAKESH KRISHNAN SIMHA
By ratcheting up spending in ballistic missile defence, India can apply the squeeze on the Pakistani economy.

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India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. Source:wikipedia.org

India’s claim that its indigenously designed ballistic missile defence (BMD) system – successfully tested on May 15 – can defend the country from a nuclear attack is being contested by a Russian expert.

According to Petr Topychkanov, Associate at the Carnegie Moscow Centre’s Non-Proliferation Programme, despite heavy investments in developing BMD systems, India may not be able to fully defend itself in a conflict from strikes by Pakistani missiles.

“Even in 10 years and with the huge budgets that India plans to spend on the development of nuclear weapons and capabilities, it is difficult to imagine it will be able to defend its territory from possible strikes from Pakistan in case of conflict,” he says.

Topychkanov’s observation isn’t wrong. Although India is now only the fourth country after Russia, Israel and the US to successfully test a BMD system, it is currently taking baby steps in ballistic missile development. BMD technologies are complicated and it will take years – and perhaps decades –before India gets a reliable system.

Even the superpowers with huge economic and technological resources at their disposal did not erect iron domes over their territories. During the Cold War, despite thousands of Russian nuclear-tipped missiles pointed at its cities and strategic nerve centres, the US abandoned its lone BMD site, in North Dakota. The Russians also built just one system, over Moscow, with the difference that it stands to this day.

In fact, Dmitri Rogozin, Russian Deputy Prime Minister responsible for the military-industrial complex, has declared: “Missile defence is an illusion – no matter how much money you invest in it.”

But Topychkanov’s opinion doesn’t provide the complete picture. India’s BMD programme is not a zero-sum project that will either protect the country or won’t. Rather, it is part of a strategic escalation that will have far-reaching geopolitical impact, especially on Pakistan.

Playing strategic chicken
A detailed study titled 'On the Strategic Value of Ballistic Missile Defence' by the French Institute of International Relations explains how BMD works to unhinge the enemy’s strategy. According to the study, BMD:

  • Creates uncertainty about the outcome of an attack in the mind of the attacker.
  • Increases the raid size required for an attack to penetrate, thereby, undermining a strategy of firing one or two and threatening more thus reducing coercive leverage.
  • Provides some assurance against risks of precipitate action by the aggressor.
  • Buys leadership time for choosing and implementing courses of action, including time for diplomacy.
  • Reduces the political pressure for pre-emptive strikes.
In short, a robust missile defence system helps to put the burden of escalation in an emerging crisis on to the adversary. When a crisis has become a hot war, then missile defence again has various strategic values. It:

*Helps to preserve freedom of action by selectively safeguarding key military and political assets.

*Increases time and opportunity to attack adversary's missile force with kinetic and non-kinetic means, potentially eliminating his capacity for follow-on attacks or decisive political or military effects.

Pakistan’s conundrum
India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. The Indian Army’s Cold Start strategy, for instance, has put huge pressure on the Pakistani economy by forcing Islamabad to crank up the production of nuclear weapons as well as delivery systems such as ballistic, cruise and tactical missiles.


The latest Indian test is likely to create more insecurity in the Pakistani military establishment. A report by the World Politics Review, states: “India’s pursuit of strategic technologies, including BMD capabilities, has created extreme paranoia in the Pakistani defence and security establishment. Pakistan has already drastically increased its nuclear arsenal in recent years in response to India’s BMD efforts.”

Pakistan is not content with having an adequate number of nuclear weapons to deter India from launching an attack. It wants to match India nuke for nuke. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists saysPakistan is on course to have the world’s fifth-largest inventory of nuclear weapons, and is spending more than $2.5 billion on nuclear weapons annually.

Given the Pakistani obsession with matching India weapon for weapon, it is likely Islamabad will try and develop a Made in Pakistan BMD. At the same time, it will attempt to buy systems from outside as a hedge against failure.

Either way the impact on the Pakistani economy will be immense. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute lists India as the fifth largest military spender with an annual budget of $51 billion. In contrast Pakistan's military budget is a paltry $7.6 billion. In overall economic terms, India's GDP of $2 trillion is the seventh largest and dwarfs Pakistan's $269 billion economy which is ranked 41st in the world.

Considering such economic disparities, there’s no way Pakistan can match India missile for missile. Overspending on defence could well bankrupt Pakistan, especially in the backdrop of western economies no longer having the inclination or the capacity to bail it out as they did in the past.

Will Islamabad take the bait?
Pakistan’s military leadership is obsessed with growing its atomic arsenal to the detriment of its economy. Terrence P. Smith of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies says that for Pakistan, nuclear weapons have become a “psychological equaliser”.

Says the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists: “In working to double the size of its already substantial nuclear arsenal, Pakistan continues to place a disproportionate focus on its nuclear programme ahead of other key security concerns. This behaviour is far from new. In 1972, Pakistani President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto famously proclaimed, ‘Even if we have to eat grass we will make nuclear bombs’. Four decades later, Pakistan continues to pursue this strategy of nuclear build-up at any cost, thereby diverting resources away from other programmes that could attempt to address the country’s internal security and economic threats.”

India’s BMD could be the proverbial straw that breaks the back of the Pakistani camel.

Spinoffs for India
In 2013, a BMD radar in Armavir, in southern Russia, detected the launch of two ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, which later turned out to be part of Israel’s test of its missile defence shield. Russia has also begun testing a new radar, designed to detect highly manoeuverable aerial targets, including cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, at a range of up to 3,000 km. India’s BMD research could also take it

While any military spending is wasteful, it is a bit like paying insurance premiums – it hurts, but when there’s a crisis you are glad you had a policy. Besides the obvious benefits, missile defence research could have lucrative spinoffs. Russia’s extensive R&D in strategic missile defence led to the development of battlefield missile defence systems such as the S-300, S-400 and S-500, of which the first two are in great demand worldwide. Similarly, India can be an exporter of low cost battlefield missile defence systems.

In 2012 Russian President Vladimir Putin, explained how Russia’s defence sector could pull the rest of the economy out of the woods. “The renewal of the military industrial complex will become a locomotive that will pull the development of various industries: metallurgy, mechanical engineering, the chemical and radio-electronic industries, the entire [information technology] and telecommunications range. The task is to multiply Russia’s economic power, create an army and military-industrial complex that will secure Russia’s sovereignty, the respect of our foreign partners and lasting peace.”

Similar benefits could accrue to India through investments in BMD and the wider defence industry.

http://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_t...e-defence-system-can-bankrupt-pakistan_598529


EPIC INDIAN FAIL. indians said exactly the same back in 1998. That indian nukes would bankrupt Pakistan in our pursuit in becoming a nuclear weapons state. Yet 18 years later, we have at least 130 nukes and our economy is the strongest it has ever been. Thanks to CPEC and other less well known programs, Pakistan is now beginning a journey that will eventually make us a developed nation whereby our citizens will enjoy a standard of living comparable to those of Turkey and South Korea.
 
EPIC INDIAN FAIL. indians said exactly the same back in 1998. That indian nukes would bankrupt Pakistan in our pursuit in becoming a nuclear weapons state. Yet 18 years later, we have at least 130 nukes and our economy is the strongest it has ever been. Thanks to CPEC and other less well known programs, Pakistan is now beginning a journey that will eventually make us a developed nation whereby our citizens will enjoy a standard of living comparable to those of Turkey and South Korea.
Pakistan can beat india anywhere, anytime and indians know.it
 
Pakistan has done and achieved whatever was necessary for its defense and will keep doing this....
But better to resolve the issues and spend on starving public on both sides especially India who faces bigger challenge than Pak to fight poverty and provision of basic necessities to public.
If both of us subtract 1 nuke or missile program may be we can upgrade our railway tracks to save human lives lost frequently due to accidents in both countries. Just a thought over a sad incident in India yesterday.
 
no rather indias enemies are living in false make beleve world where they think india wont strike where it hurts most dont worry we have everything that scares hell out of any potential invader in todays world and thas the main reason why even after so many problems our armed forces seem to be facing neither PLAAF nor PAF/PA has gatherred guts to attack and finish india once and for all ...... ever wonderred why and why andwhat stopped musharraf from using neukes in 1999 ?

Pakistan Don't need nukes to beat the hell out of India. Indian home developed technology is useless. Seriously just look at you missile program it is of no use just to beat your missile defense program what Pakistan requires is to design a flat surface missile and your radar based missile defenses become useless.
 
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Looks like money has started to leave India

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Constructing some good facilities is must when you have cash in hand

Anyone thinking of camping on Indian beaches

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Fantastic beach front property
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New aircraft carrier
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Tourist was expecting different experience for his money
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Looks like all money went into weapons

I am sure Pakistan Secret service did all this really


Fake propaganda below
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Reality
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PS: I do not wish to make fun of people suffering from poverty but for folks who claim on world domination based on weapons should first look at poverty before jumping into starting surgical strikes and wars
 
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1 Nuke to toward India that explode successfully and
1 Nuke to toward Pakistan that explode successfully

End of Story

Both of them should use brain at least, Not to invest on Defence system after Nukes

Instead spend money on your people Mads :mad::hitwall::crazy:
 
Sir, I don't know how knowledgeable these Indian writers are as I've seen a few articles and they didn't make sense to me, just like this one. But here is what I would explain based on some sense and knowledge that I may have. My apologies if it won't fit your taste. I am just typing reality here:

- Pakistan won't be putting dozens of billions of dollars into R&D for a missile defense system. In fact, she would get whatever it can, from Turkey and China. My understanding is, Pakistan will have layers of various types of defensive missile rings. These may be different type and from different origin, but they more than likely will not be integrated (which is what takes the most money). Its much cheaper to have a consolidated view of your airspace (which they already do) and use various independent systems to manage the airspace.

- If we were talking about Pakistan needing 500 4.5th or 5th gen jets to counter India, then your assumptions (or the writers) would be correct that Pakistan would go bankrupt. But here, they will be "missile heavy" and that is the cheapest route to create defensive-offensive strategy. Don't forget, the PAF is a defensive force in nature with limited offensive capability (500 KM inside Indian borders, which still covers about 75% major airbases and FOB's).

- Extending the # 2 from the above, expect Pakistan to be starting to manufacture a capable SAM in the next 2-3 years. Which will make it much cheaper to manufacture long range SAMs and build in numbers.

- China just tested a WA-BVRM (wide area bvr missile), with 300 KM range (175+ miles I think) a few hours ago from their J-16's. So imagining that the range can be further increased, any such system with 175-200 Miles (300-350 KM) can create a massive defensive barrier between Indian AF jets plus missiles, and Pakistan. In a war, majority of the IAF jets can be locked upon and fired upon while they will be well within the Indian territories (even 50-100 KM inside Indian territory is good enough). Same goes for India using S-300 or S-400's.

- India isn't like the US (with so much distance between her and the rest of the globe), that there can be three - four chances of trying to intercept inbound missiles.

In India and Pakistan's case, majority of your cities are within 2-5 minutes of each other's missiles post launch. So there is barely time for one proper intercept.

In MIRV's case, even that's a lost battle as who do you target if say 20 MIRVs are fired upon you? Either way, there are more than likely chances of about 30-40% slippage. This isn't a video game like these articles you guys post suggest, just so you remember.
 
EPIC INDIAN FAIL. indians said exactly the same back in 1998. That indian nukes would bankrupt Pakistan in our pursuit in becoming a nuclear weapons state. Yet 18 years later, we have at least 130 nukes and our economy is the strongest it has ever been. Thanks to CPEC and other less well known programs, Pakistan is now beginning a journey that will eventually make us a developed nation whereby our citizens will enjoy a standard of living comparable to those of Turkey and South Korea.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1239850/finding-way-pakistans-economy-will-collapse-next-10-years/

Haha, strongest ever economy, your citizens will enjoy a standard of living comparable to those Pakistan, don't compare yourself to real developing countries
 
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1239850/finding-way-pakistans-economy-will-collapse-next-10-years/

Haha, strongest ever economy, your citizens will enjoy a standard of living comparable to those Pakistan, don't compare yourself to real developing countries



indians and others have been saying such things since August the 14th of 1947. Yet we are still strong and standing firm. Yet indians have between 30-40% of the ENTIRE Earth's most severely malnourished and extreme poor. So you are in no position to comment about Pakistan:

http://m.firstpost.com/india/shocke...t-of-worlds-malnourished-children-916359.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-28735449
 

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