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India’s Kashmir move ‘undermines’ China's sovereignty: Beijing

American establishment has miscalculated the repercussions when they give go ahead to their poodle India on Kashmir. Afghanistan has become an ego problem for this neo con hydra which is entrenched in American deep state, but their ego do not pay for the occupation , tax payers do both in terms of wealth and blood. Time is running out, either Trump do a proper cleansing of American deep state, or face a crunching defeat in Afghansitan. Leave Pakistan aside, China and Russia are not dealing with Talibans for "peace talks" you numbnuts.

PMIK made this clear in his speech today that repercussions will be global. Now people across the world need to understand why.
 
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If China join Pakistan in a full blown invasion of Kashmir and other disputed Region, Indians will surrender and have to give up those occupied Territories once and for all, and finally the region can have peace .
 
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If China join Pakistan in a full blown invasion of Kashmir and other disputed Region, Indians will surrender and have to give up those occupied Territories once and for all, and finally the region can have peace .
China did not even recognised Pakistan's concerns in its statement and u are dreaming that they would go to war against India with you!
This is beyond wishful thinking
 
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Doklam proved there is nothing China can do against India. Within the next few years, India and China will probably work out a border deal, so it doesn't matter anyway
 
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Time for unlimited weapons and financial support from China is here and now. China will never let CPEC and therefore OBOR collapse.

Let's see if India can get the same level of support from Russia and USA.
 
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'India moved on Kashmir to stop China's influence in the region'
By Anadolu Agency
Published: August 10, 2019
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ANKARA: Taiwanese scholar Chien-Yu Shih claimed on Saturday that New Delhi’s recent move in Indian Occupied Kashmir (IOK) was an attempt to check China’s growing influence in the region.

Shih, who is the secretary general of the Taiwan-based Association of Central Asian Studies, said that Indian premier Narendra Modi tried to take advantage of tensions between Washington and Beijing, in order to hinder China’s expansion in South Asia.

Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bhartiya Janata Party (BJP) government discontinued special provisions guaranteed by the Indian Constitution to the disputed region under its control, dividing the region into two downgraded and centrally-controlled “Union Territories”.
New Delhi imposed a lockdown in the Himalayan valley a day ahead of rushing an additional 40,000 troops to the region to quell possible protests, while at the same time enforcing a complete communications blockade.

China to back Pakistan in UNSC on Kashmir

“This policy move definitely is going to pose a threat to China’s further expansion,” said Shih, who teaches Journalism and International Relations at Hong Kong Chuhai College.

China is investing nearly $50 billion into Pakistani infrastructure with the aim of constructing roads, buildings, highways, bridges, cities and power plants, part of what is called the “China-Pakistan Economic Corridor” (CPEC) to connect China’s western Xinjiang province to Pakistan’s Arabian Sea coast in Balochistan.

CPEC has been declared a flagship project of China’s Belt and Road Initiative seeking to recreate the centuries-old Silk Road passing through over 100 countries.

Shih linked India’s move to the US’ Indo-Pacific strategies: “This involves not only India but the US and Japan as well.”

He underlined that with Beijing purchasing large amounts of oil from Iran, it was “good timing” for India to pursue such a policy, with China bordering the eastern frontier of IOK.

However, New Delhi’s move triggered a massive response from Pakistan which downgraded its diplomatic relations with India and indicated that it would take the case to the UN Security Council.

China also criticised the move saying the reorganisation of the disputed region undermined its sovereignty.

Beijing referred to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the Ladakh region — one of the two Union Territories — and said the country’s border concerns had not been addressed.

China and the US are at the same time engaged in a trade war, with each side increasing tariffs on the other’s goods, though both seek to ink a trade deal between them.

The trade war has impacted the Chinese side with markets witnessing 27-year low growth last quarter.

Moreover, the US-imposed sanctions on Tehran also impose penalties on countries buying oil from the country. India — once second largest buyer of Iranian oil — has since brought imports down to nil, earning US praise.

Shih said one of the major concerns for China was the transportation of oil and gas through the Indian Ocean to Western China, with the Modi government showing it was definitely a “continuing threat to development of CPEC”, with its most recent move.

Adding that no one is going to benefit from the US-China trade war, he said both countries were under “extreme pressure” on the economic front as they vilified each other.

“It is now a social consensus in US that if there is any biggest threat in future to the country that is China,” he said referring to ongoing presidential campaign in the US which goes to polls next year.

“Every move made by China poses a threat to the US and vice versa, but now they are in a deadlock,” he said.

Shih underlined that China had many issues at hand including the ongoing Hong Kong protests, criticism of the so-called re-education camps in Xinjiang, upcoming polls in Taiwan which — which it claims as its own territory, South Korea-Japan tensions and North Korea.

“China-India relations have been managed in quite a good way in recent years,” he said, adding that though Beijing sought to manipulate relations through “soft” means, the situation between the two countries was still “not out of control.”


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How India’s Kashmir Move May Complicate Its Border Dispute With China
The Indian government’s move will make border negotiations with China more difficult.

thediplomat_2017-01-17_04-07-14-36x36.jpg

By Ankit Panda
August 12, 2019

India’s Bharatiya Janata Party-led government realized a long-standing aspiration of its followers and ideological fellow travellers on August 5.

By announcing it would abrogate Article 370 of the Indian constitution, thereby ending special status for the state of Jammu and Kashmir, Delhi moved to consolidate its control over this region.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his right-hand man and home minister, Amit Shah, had cashed in on the massive electoral mandate the party had won in general elections earlier this year.

While the government’s move has won favor among both supporters and some opposition parties in India, it has opened a geopolitical Pandora’s box.

Pakistan, which claims the entirety of India-administered Kashmir as its own territory, has protested and downgraded its diplomatic ties.

Islamabad’s retaliatory actions are expected to continue and may spill into increased clashes along the sensitive Line of Control, which demarcates the Pakistani-administered portion of Kashmir from the Indian section.

But while most international attention remains focused on how Pakistan will play its cards next, China’s role in Kashmir has been relatively neglected.

India, along with Bhutan, is one of just two countries that have yet to settle their land borders with China.

Delhi’s move in Kashmir is likely to complicate future talks on finalising the border between India and China.

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, after more than half a day of silencer, condemned India’s actions.

“China is always opposed to India’s inclusion of the Chinese territory in the western sector of the China-India boundary into its administrative jurisdiction,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a statement.

She added that India “continued to undermine China’s territorial sovereignty by unilaterally changing its domestic law,” in an apparent reference to Delhi’s move on Article 370.

The accusation that a change in Indian law could affect China’s sovereignty was particularly bold – especially given Beijing’s own use of domestic law to strong-arm claimant states in the disputed South China Sea.

In any case, China continues to administer the large Kashmiri region of Aksai Chin, which sits just east of India-administered Ladakh, an area in northwestern India that will come under New Delhi’s direct rule as a result of the changes.

Ladakh used to be part of the erstwhile Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, which no longer exists, but will be succeeded by a new so-called union territory with the same name.

India’s consolidation of autonomy over Ladakh – and by extension Aksai Chin – will set up a new challenge as the two countries continue a dialogue on the border dispute. The 22nd round of that process should take place later this year.

For years, even as New Delhi and Beijing had temporary crises along their border, including the 2017 stand-off over an obscure patch of Bhutanese territory known as Doklam, their dialogue has mostly continued.

While no final resolution of the border dispute was imminent, the two sides were heading toward a crystallisation of the old status quo, with India likely making concessions on Aksai Chin, and China on the eastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.

However, with India’s abrogation of Article 370, Beijing may find itself toeing an uncompromising line on the border – taking what is certain to be a less compromising stance than before.

In particular, China’s claim over Tawang, a town in Arunachal Pradesh, is likely to harden as a result of India’s reorganisation of Ladakh.

Moreover, Tawang’s prominence in the border dispute may take on special importance should the Dalai Lama die, setting up a succession crisis between a Beijing-anointed successor and a legitimate successor outside Tibet.

In the near term, we may also expect Beijing to push the envelope along the Line of Actual Control (LoAC) – the demarcation separating Indian-administered areas from Chinese-administered ones.

While a redux of the Doklam stand-off of 2017 may be unlikely, Chinese crossings of the LoAC in Ladakh may increase to protest against India’s actions.

With its move on article 370, India will have to concern itself with both of its disgruntled neighbors.

While the situation with Pakistan will remain more acute in the coming days, India just made the task of finding a lasting solution to the border dispute with China a lot more complicated.

This article first appeared in the South China Morning Post. It is republished here with kind permission.

@Joe Shearer @beijingwalker @Dubious @war&peace @Beidou2020
 
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How India’s Kashmir Move May Complicate Its Border Dispute With China
The Indian government’s move will make border negotiations with China more difficult.

thediplomat_2017-01-17_04-07-14-36x36.jpg

By Ankit Panda
August 12, 2019

India’s Bharatiya Janata Party-led government realized a long-standing aspiration of its followers and ideological fellow travellers on August 5.

By announcing it would abrogate Article 370 of the Indian constitution, thereby ending special status for the state of Jammu and Kashmir, Delhi moved to consolidate its control over this region.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his right-hand man and home minister, Amit Shah, had cashed in on the massive electoral mandate the party had won in general elections earlier this year.

While the government’s move has won favor among both supporters and some opposition parties in India, it has opened a geopolitical Pandora’s box.

Pakistan, which claims the entirety of India-administered Kashmir as its own territory, has protested and downgraded its diplomatic ties.

Islamabad’s retaliatory actions are expected to continue and may spill into increased clashes along the sensitive Line of Control, which demarcates the Pakistani-administered portion of Kashmir from the Indian section.

But while most international attention remains focused on how Pakistan will play its cards next, China’s role in Kashmir has been relatively neglected.

India, along with Bhutan, is one of just two countries that have yet to settle their land borders with China.

Delhi’s move in Kashmir is likely to complicate future talks on finalising the border between India and China.

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, after more than half a day of silencer, condemned India’s actions.

“China is always opposed to India’s inclusion of the Chinese territory in the western sector of the China-India boundary into its administrative jurisdiction,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a statement.

She added that India “continued to undermine China’s territorial sovereignty by unilaterally changing its domestic law,” in an apparent reference to Delhi’s move on Article 370.

The accusation that a change in Indian law could affect China’s sovereignty was particularly bold – especially given Beijing’s own use of domestic law to strong-arm claimant states in the disputed South China Sea.

In any case, China continues to administer the large Kashmiri region of Aksai Chin, which sits just east of India-administered Ladakh, an area in northwestern India that will come under New Delhi’s direct rule as a result of the changes.

Ladakh used to be part of the erstwhile Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, which no longer exists, but will be succeeded by a new so-called union territory with the same name.

India’s consolidation of autonomy over Ladakh – and by extension Aksai Chin – will set up a new challenge as the two countries continue a dialogue on the border dispute. The 22nd round of that process should take place later this year.

For years, even as New Delhi and Beijing had temporary crises along their border, including the 2017 stand-off over an obscure patch of Bhutanese territory known as Doklam, their dialogue has mostly continued.

While no final resolution of the border dispute was imminent, the two sides were heading toward a crystallisation of the old status quo, with India likely making concessions on Aksai Chin, and China on the eastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.

However, with India’s abrogation of Article 370, Beijing may find itself toeing an uncompromising line on the border – taking what is certain to be a less compromising stance than before.

In particular, China’s claim over Tawang, a town in Arunachal Pradesh, is likely to harden as a result of India’s reorganisation of Ladakh.

Moreover, Tawang’s prominence in the border dispute may take on special importance should the Dalai Lama die, setting up a succession crisis between a Beijing-anointed successor and a legitimate successor outside Tibet.

In the near term, we may also expect Beijing to push the envelope along the Line of Actual Control (LoAC) – the demarcation separating Indian-administered areas from Chinese-administered ones.

While a redux of the Doklam stand-off of 2017 may be unlikely, Chinese crossings of the LoAC in Ladakh may increase to protest against India’s actions.

With its move on article 370, India will have to concern itself with both of its disgruntled neighbors.

While the situation with Pakistan will remain more acute in the coming days, India just made the task of finding a lasting solution to the border dispute with China a lot more complicated.

This article first appeared in the South China Morning Post. It is republished here with kind permission.

@Joe Shearer @beijingwalker @Dubious @war&peace @Beidou2020

I appreciate the point of view, but things are likely to be different on the ground. The Chinese, quite correctly, are feeling their way through the situation step by cautious step.

Just for the record, the Chinese have a very strong case both for Aksai Chin and for Tawang, but a very weak case for the rest of their claims in Ladakh and in Arunachal Pradesh.
 
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Its kinda funny but the Chinese seem a bit lethargic and unconcerned or maybe they want everyone to think that way. Either way, for Pak's sake lets hope the gangus have awaken the Dragon.

No chance. China's disputes with India are very cool in nature. Pakistan is practically, on its own, as far Kashmir issue and its conflict with India is concerned. Common Pakistani shall understand that China will extend a limited and restrained help, in case of any serious conflict with India. Of course, our policy makers are fully aware of it.
 
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