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India's Industrial Output Declines 5.1%


lol nice try.

the poster was talking about overall production, not an individual item.

indian economy is on the verge of collapse due to too much debt, this industrial output collapse proves the entire indian economy is a house of cards.
thats what happens when u run massive deficits
 
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I thought unlike China, India has this magical internal demand driven economy. Guess that's just something to brag about and not to prevent one from blaming others.



No we haven't. We're in fact worried because our growth in industrial output in November has slowed to a mere 12.4%, the lowest in two-years. However we don't agree with some Indian members here that a lowly 12.4% growth in industry output will lead to the collapse of the Chinese economy.



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leave it man.. this is what happens to Chinese posters here when they find a bad news about India
 
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Not really surprised that the out put was slower than expected, the whole world is hit by a slow down because of the EU economic crisis , the faster they get things straight the faster things will get back to normal. I am not really worried about this considering all the other major economies are seeing a slow down in their industrial output and exports, so it is expected. The EU countries don't seem to be agreeing with each other and are not coming out with a strong reform plan, the faster they do it the faster the world will breathe a breath of relief.
 
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indian economy faces serious problems, its currency is collapsing, thats a sign people are losing trust in the rupee.
its inflation is extremely high.
its growth is falling.
its industrial output is collapsing and shrinking.
add to that the huge trade deficits, budget deficits.

indian economy is on the verge of a major crisis and this is nothing related to european crisis.

thats what happens when u try to get the gdp as high as possible by running constant deficits.
 
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India’s economy
Slip-sliding away


EXPECTATIONS for India’s economic growth rate have been sliding inexorably. In the early spring there was still heady talk about 9-10% being the new natural rate of expansion, a trajectory which if maintained would make the country an economic superpower in a couple of decades. Now things look very different. The latest GDP growth figure slipped to 6.9% and industrial production numbers just released, on December 12th, showed a decline of 5.1% compared with the previous period, a miserable state of affairs. The slump looks broadly based, from mining to capital goods, and in severity compares with that experienced at the height of the financial crisis, in February 2009, when a drop of 7.2% took place. Bombast is turning to panic.

Several riders apply. The industrial production series is notoriously volatile—most economists admit to being baffled by its swings. The comparison with the prior year period was unflattering. And it would be surprising if India were not hurt by the agonies of the rich world—after all from China to Brazil investors are jittery about the outlook, too. Moreover the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has been raising rates through the year to try to bring inflation, running at some 9%, under control. At Mumbai drinks parties, after a scotch too many, industrialists can be reduced to apoplexy on this subject—the central bank, they argue, has overreacted, killing growth to tame an inflation problem that is largely the result of structural factors such as poor food supply chains.

Yet another factor looms. Years of government drift have meant a loss of momentum on reform, from building infrastructure to controlling graft. That drift was symbolised by the ruling coalition’s decision this month to allow in foreign supermarkets into India, which it was forced to reverse two weeks later after widespread protests and objections from the smaller parties it relies on to stay in power. India’s economy can seem like a bicycle—it needs to keep moving fast to be stable. Once conviction in the destination falters, companies curb investment and hope turns to fear that the country’s problems may be intractable.

An optimistic reading of these latest numbers is that they might force India’s politicians to move beyond the rancour of recent months and agree a program of reforms that would bolster confidence at home and abroad. But given a busy electoral cycle the odds of that seem poor. The concern now is that if growth slows a whole lot of other worries come to the fore, from potential bad debts in the banking system, the government’s poor fiscal position and the challenge of funding a current-account deficit when outside investors have got cold feet. Already the rupee has slid reflecting the last of those worries. India’s finances look solid when it is motoring along at close to double digits and weak when it is expanding at half that rate.

Given all this an uncomfortable burden of expectation now sits on the shoulders of the RBI, one of the few government institutions in India that commands respect, albeit grudgingly from some business folk. It could start cutting rates. But given inflation is still quite persistent, this would involve a theological U-turn. It has other tools available to try to ease the supply of credit, such as lowering the amount of cash banks must hold as reserves, creating room on their balance sheets to lend more. Unless there is a sudden change in government policy—or those statistics are shown to be cranky—action now seems likely. But as in the rich world, India may find that central banks cannot always work short-term economic miracles, nor sustain long-term ones all on their own.

India
 
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India’s economy
Slip-sliding away


EXPECTATIONS for India’s economic growth rate have been sliding inexorably. In the early spring there was still heady talk about 9-10% being the new natural rate of expansion, a trajectory which if maintained would make the country an economic superpower in a couple of decades. Now things look very different. The latest GDP growth figure slipped to 6.9% and industrial production numbers just released, on December 12th, showed a decline of 5.1% compared with the previous period, a miserable state of affairs. The slump looks broadly based, from mining to capital goods, and in severity compares with that experienced at the height of the financial crisis, in February 2009, when a drop of 7.2% took place. Bombast is turning to panic.

Several riders apply. The industrial production series is notoriously volatile—most economists admit to being baffled by its swings. The comparison with the prior year period was unflattering. And it would be surprising if India were not hurt by the agonies of the rich world—after all from China to Brazil investors are jittery about the outlook, too. Moreover the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has been raising rates through the year to try to bring inflation, running at some 9%, under control. At Mumbai drinks parties, after a scotch too many, industrialists can be reduced to apoplexy on this subject—the central bank, they argue, has overreacted, killing growth to tame an inflation problem that is largely the result of structural factors such as poor food supply chains.

Yet another factor looms. Years of government drift have meant a loss of momentum on reform, from building infrastructure to controlling graft. That drift was symbolised by the ruling coalition’s decision this month to allow in foreign supermarkets into India, which it was forced to reverse two weeks later after widespread protests and objections from the smaller parties it relies on to stay in power. India’s economy can seem like a bicycle—it needs to keep moving fast to be stable. Once conviction in the destination falters, companies curb investment and hope turns to fear that the country’s problems may be intractable.

An optimistic reading of these latest numbers is that they might force India’s politicians to move beyond the rancour of recent months and agree a program of reforms that would bolster confidence at home and abroad. But given a busy electoral cycle the odds of that seem poor. The concern now is that if growth slows a whole lot of other worries come to the fore, from potential bad debts in the banking system, the government’s poor fiscal position and the challenge of funding a current-account deficit when outside investors have got cold feet. Already the rupee has slid reflecting the last of those worries. India’s finances look solid when it is motoring along at close to double digits and weak when it is expanding at half that rate.

Given all this an uncomfortable burden of expectation now sits on the shoulders of the RBI, one of the few government institutions in India that commands respect, albeit grudgingly from some business folk. It could start cutting rates. But given inflation is still quite persistent, this would involve a theological U-turn. It has other tools available to try to ease the supply of credit, such as lowering the amount of cash banks must hold as reserves, creating room on their balance sheets to lend more. Unless there is a sudden change in government policy—or those statistics are shown to be cranky—action now seems likely. But as in the rich world, India may find that central banks cannot always work short-term economic miracles, nor sustain long-term ones all on their own.

India

yup thought so.

not surprising really, when u run an economy based on debt, its going to fail eventually.

the indian miracle is starting to fall apart.

it was good while it lasted i guess.
 
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indian economy faces serious problems, its currency is collapsing, thats a sign people are losing trust in the rupee.
its inflation is extremely high.
its growth is falling.
its industrial output is collapsing and shrinking.
add to that the huge trade deficits, budget deficits.

indian economy is on the verge of a major crisis and this is nothing related to european crisis.

thats what happens when u try to get the gdp as high as possible by running constant deficits.

well said.
 
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No need to compare the growth, GDP, population and democratic potentials and etc. Just focus on your people and do you job. I do not see India can catch up with China in the next 50 years unless China suffers major setback e.g. major wars and etc.
 
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indian economy faces serious problems, its currency is collapsing, thats a sign people are losing trust in the rupee.
its inflation is extremely high.
its growth is falling.
its industrial output is collapsing and shrinking.
add to that the huge trade deficits, budget deficits.

Growth was low because steps are being taken to

indian economy is on the verge of a major crisis and this is nothing related to european crisis.

thats what happens when u try to get the gdp as high as possible by running constant deficits.


Growth was low because steps are being taken to curb infaltion(ie interest rates were increased)....which has infact started to show...food inflation is at its lowest in over two yrs.

Indian economy unlike chinese economy which is actually collapsing due to the Euro crises..will not be affected by it(as we are not dependent on them)
India is poised for 7.5% growth this yr.
 
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Growth was low because steps are being taken to curb infaltion(ie interest rates were increased)....which has infact started to show...food inflation is at its lowest in over two yrs.

Indian economy unlike chinese economy which is actually collapsing due to the Euro crises..will not be affected by it(as we are not dependent on them)
India is poised for 7.5% growth this yr.

China has nothing to fear from the Euro crisis. We will just swoop in and buy their assets at low prices if they do collapse. That's the wonder of having a positive account balance.
 
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China has nothing to fear from the Euro crisis. We will just swoop in and buy their assets at low prices if they do collapse. That's the wonder of having a positive account balance.

i hope that ccp will do,wat u have u recommened, if not

have some tissue and :cry:
 
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Growth was low because steps are being taken to curb infaltion(ie interest rates were increased)....which has infact started to show...food inflation is at its lowest in over two yrs.

Indian economy unlike chinese economy which is actually collapsing due to the Euro crises..will not be affected by it(as we are not dependent on them)
India is poised for 7.5% growth this yr.

Really? The whole Chinese economy collapsing? Since when?
 
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China has $3.2 trillion in currency reserves. :lol: More than double the entire Indian GDP.

Even the American bailout of their banks during the Credit Crunch, only cost a fraction of that.

And they did it by borrowing even more money.
 
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Really? The whole Chinese economy collapsing? Since when?

Well both Indian and Chinese growth rate has drooped almost same percentage over last year's ..so if Indian economy is collapsing "as is being said"..then so must be the Chinese.
 
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China has $3.2 trillion in currency reserves. :lol:

Even the American bailout of their banks during the Credit Crunch, only cost a fraction of that.

And they did it by borrowing even more money.
What are you gonna do with those reserves, buy Antarctica ? The Chinese have this great misconception about their stupid reserves, it include the US bonds that CN buys, it also includes FDI, then remittances, alot of it is also part of the money invested in stocks & Chinese debt bought by other global banks. Its not like all of that belongs to you, the only part that does is what is owned by China not all of it ! Going by your logic IND & US would have gone bankrupt with their debt level of & imports !
 
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