India’s future: World biggest market won’t let you in. World second market won’t let competitors in

[FairAndUnbiased]

https://www.livemint.com/technology...top-80-billion-by-2025-cii-1566387866987.html
India’s IT industry stands at $177 billion with exports amounting to $136 billion and the industry employees around 4.1 million people

Now answer the question from the original quote

That is my original quote
Please cut the crap dude. USA allows $100 billion in outsourcing business to India employing 4 million Indians. What has China done for India ?

Thanks for the source. We don't know the national distribution of those exports though. According to India's total export-import statistics 15% of India's total exports go to the US. US cannot get credit for all $100 billion dollars worth of IT exports. In particular, that's not free money; US is paying for a service. or do you think Indians should serve the US for free? That's called slavery.

Here's a small sample of what China has done for India:

1. $562 million (3500 crore) investments by Xiaomi in India in a single year.

2. India is largest borrower from China's AIIB bank.

3. Billions worth of investments in Indian power plants.

4. $84 billion in total trade per year vs. $74 billion for the US.

5. $4 billion investments in 18/30 Indian unicorn startups.

The difference is that China invests in India, while US buys from India for services rendered. It is expected to pay for services, to not do so is theft or slavery. It is not expected that someone will invest money into your operation with no expectation of immediate payoff - banks and VCs won't do it unless you have a solid business plan.

 

[Uguduwa]

India and China decoupling is sad for Asia. India and China could have been the 2 leaders of Asia triggering the Asian century and make Indo-Pacific centre of the world again.

 

[nahtanbob]

Thanks for the source. We don't know the national distribution of those exports though. According to India's total export-import statistics 15% of India's total exports go to the US. US cannot get credit for all $100 billion dollars worth of IT exports. In particular, that's not free money; US is paying for a service. or do you think Indians should serve the US for free? That's called slavery.

Here's a small sample of what China has done for India:

1. $562 million (3500 crore) investments by Xiaomi in India in a single year.

2. India is largest borrower from China's AIIB bank.

3. Billions worth of investments in Indian power plants.

4. $84 billion in total trade per year vs. $74 billion for the US.

5. $4 billion investments in 18/30 Indian unicorn startups.

The difference is that China invests in India, while US buys from India for services rendered. It is expected to pay for services, to not do so is theft or slavery. It is not expected that someone will invest money into your operation with no expectation of immediate payoff - banks and VCs won't do it unless you have a solid business plan.

"We don't know the national distribution of those exports though. "
a big joke

Everyone wants other country to purchase their goods and services

$562 million is an investment

"India is largest borrower from China's AIIB bank."
That is a loan

"Billions worth of investments in Indian power plants."
Source ?? India does not allow foreigners to own power plants. You are probably peddling sale of equipment as investments

"$84 billion in total trade per year vs. $74 billion for the US."
Why stick to total trade ? Break it into exports and imports
What is the balance of trade for China and USA ? China has $60 billion surplus. USA has a $4 billion deficit.

 

[nature is]

Your knowledge in history is as good as your knowledge of geopolitics. There was times before 97 where South Korea wasn't rich, they even looked up to countries like Pakistan to take examples from. Different times.
China did no favor to anyone, you opened your market to save yourself because your country was in absolute shit with people eating anything that walks and famine ravaging much of your nation. Chairman Mao even offered to send your women to the US as a gift.

Sending women away was a joke Mao made about over-population.

"The remark provoked laughter and was clearly meant as a joke, but Mao went on to complain that Chinese women were giving birth to too many children."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7243500.stm


If there's anything Indians are good at, that is spinning lie and twisting facts, indulging in falsehood and delusion, that perhaps explains why ave Indian IQ is so low.


@kankan326 You can never take Indians' word at face value, they will twist, lie and smear, no integrity whatsoever. If unsure, always fact check.

 

[nahtanbob]

Very myopic thinking.
Indian long term strategic thinking is malicious and flawed.
All they needed to do was to look at a map and assess American relations with each country to see which way the dominoes were going to fall.
I predicted a Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey axis 3 months ago and said that India should have joined this bloc to enhance regional progress and peace, in fact, Xi offered Modi this very thing 2 years ago when he offered a 3 way agreement between China, Pakistan and India which would have meant the peaceful resolution of all border disputes and economic and trade ties between the 3 countries, but Modi refused. I was told by the Indian posters that their was no such thing as a Eurasian bloc, it's because they can't see the obvious, who foresaw Bangladesh on the brink of ditching India, or Nepal?
The Indians don't want to finish their petty squabbles with their neighbours because they would rather be a domineering hegemon in a poor neighborhood rather that be an equal partner in a richer one.
They have bet the house on the US facing down the emerging Eurasian bloc which will grow in the near future to include CAR, Turkey and beyond and in doing so they have isolated themselves in the region and surrendered their development to the tender mercies of the Americans.

Save your wishing thinking for another day. You cannot sign a free sign trade agreement with your "Turkish brothers" to save your lives.

Please cut the crap dude. USA allows $100 billion in outsourcing business to India employing 4 million Indians
What has China done for India ?

On a side note how much Pakistani products & services do Russia, China, Iran, Turkey purchase ? Compare that to what GCC, Western Europe, USA and Japan do for you

 

[Longhorn]

Save your wishing thinking for another day. You cannot sign a free sign trade agreement with your "Turkish brothers" to save your lives.

Please cut the crap dude. USA allows $100 billion in outsourcing business to India employing 4 million Indians
What has China done for India ?

On a side note how much Pakistani products & services do Russia, China, Iran, Turkey purchase ? Compare that to what GCC, Western Europe, USA and Japan do for you

Like I said, narrow shortsighted thinking.
Let's see how this pans out for all the countries concerned.

 

[danger007]

First of all long before you do anything to Pakistan we slice half of Kashmir and got it out of your clutches in our own hands.

Secondly the division of Pakistan has a war with you but it was also desired by Pakistani politicians themselves. You can read speeches of both majority leaders bhutto and mujib and both were in favor of having separate government for east and west Pakistan so you did nothing but take a credit of what people of Pakistan and Bangladesh wanted. If it was your achievement then why didnt you occupy Bangladesh just like Kashmir?

History is much more than your text books and speeches of your leaders.

Disintegration of Pakistan is a long outstanding dream of India but unfortunately it will remain a pipe dream.

by the way its already such a shame that in order to prove yourself you have to compare yourself with a seven time smaller country. This is the thinking that will not let you grow as you just want to rule the muslims of subcontinent to take revenge of hundreds of years of muslim rulership. This is the only cause uniting you otherwise tell me a single common item in people of India that is require to make a nation ?

That half you got before India confronted Pakistan... so stop nonsense, i don't have time to read rest of your post..

 

[Peshwa]

Labeling China the East India company and labeling the west favorably would be foolish IMO. After all the East India company was created by the west to start with LOL.

India did not side in the past which is why I called India's past foreign policy wise. But in the current conflict between US and China, you have clearly and blatantly taken a side, there is no two ways about it. I am just not very optimistic that either of the outcomes (China lose or US lose) will be beneficial for you. I am of the opinion that remaining totally neutral and indifferent in this conflict would have been a wiser move. Having said that it's just my opinion and I have given my reasoning for that, I could be wrong though. Let's wait and see what happens, I think this conflict will not drag on for many decades like the US-USSR one, it will conclude rather quickly. So we will find out soon.

Quite simply, China has made the choice for India and made it blatantly clear for a number of years.
Whether it be blocking sanctions against masood azhar, to ingresses at doklam, and most recently the clashes in Ladakh, for India, these aren’t exactly the actions of a peaceful neighbor that wants to cooperate.

India is not a super power and definitely not as mighty as China, but it won’t roll over either and allow such blatant aggression.
India’s choice is very clear and that is to partner with the US to cut China down to size.
If China was neutral, India would have a non aligned policy viz. China. At this moment, India has its own axe to grind with China, while US happens to also be sharpening their knives. The timing couldn’t be better.

 

[nahtanbob]

Like I said, narrow shortsighted thinking.
Let's see how this pans out for all the countries concerned.

the devil is in the details. pakistanis have shown no interest in working out nitty gritty details
slogans are cheap - pan-Islamic, other types of brotherhood

 

[Longhorn]

the devil is in the details. pakistanis have shown no interest in working out nitty gritty details
slogans are cheap - pan-Islamic, other types of brotherhood

Nothing to do with pan anything.
The axis of world power is shifting, countries are positioning themselves for the future.
Some can see what's coming, some can't.

 

[The Accountant]

That half you got before India confronted Pakistan... so stop nonsense, i don't have time to read rest of your post..

I didnt know India didnt exist in 1948.

 

[danger007]

I didnt know India didnt exist in 1948.

Well Pakistan started invasion as maharaja tilting .... India confronted... that is how you got the half...

 

[The Accountant]

Well Pakistan started invasion as maharaja tilting .... India confronted... that is how you got the half...

Maharaja was hindu. He was indian ally. Which type of armed forces of india are they cant even provide protection to allies?

 

[Leishangthem]

Quite simply, China has made the choice for India and made it blatantly clear for a number of years.
Whether it be blocking sanctions against masood azhar, to ingresses at doklam, and most recently the clashes in Ladakh, for India, these aren’t exactly the actions of a peaceful neighbor that wants to cooperate.

India is not a super power and definitely not as mighty as China, but it won’t roll over either and allow such blatant aggression.
India’s choice is very clear and that is to partner with the US to cut China down to size.
If China was neutral, India would have a non aligned policy viz. China. At this moment, India has its own axe to grind with China, while US happens to also be sharpening their knives. The timing couldn’t be better.

FYI ,china lifted the blockade from sanctions against Mas0od azha r .Do you realise Doklam is in Bhutan not India? Bhutan was embarrassed after the stunt puilled by the indian side and right after the standoff,Bhutan had send delegates to china to create diplomatic relations with China for the first time.
The recent clash? do you know the full picture?
There's leaked Henderson's report pertaining to the war of 62,which clearly states ,the said incident resulted from provocation by Nehru's forward movement.Even though Indians live believing that it was china that provoked and invaded India in 62.China offered border issue resolution through mutual compromise, many times. Typical

 

[nahtanbob]

Most present developed countries were already developed before world war 2. So basically there is nothing to do with siding with US.

South Korea was almost bankrupted because of Wall Street robbery in 1997. It could recover because China opened its market to S.Korea. China has been S.Korea biggest market since then. If there was no China's market, there wouldn't be today's S.Korea. You dare to say China only help poor countries?

Try telling this to South Koreans. you will be called a joker of the day
What % of Samsung sales are from China ?