India's fury at Pakistan training by Australia

[Chinese-Dragon]

Australians have 'predicted' an Indo-China war within next five years per a strategic policy paper.

Actually, it's the Indians who keep predicting that, not the Australians.

This is a quote from the Indian media, specifically Rediff.com:

China will launch an attack on India before 2012.

There are multiple reasons for a desperate Beijing to teach India the final lesson, thereby ensuring Chinese supremacy in Asia in this century. The recession that shut the Chinese exports shop is creating an unprecedented internal social unrest. In turn, the vice-like grip of the Communists' over the society stands severely threatened.

http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/jul/11/slide-show-1-why-china-may-attack-india.htm

Author is Bharat Verma from the Indian "think tank" called Indiandefencereview.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

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Really?? and training against which threats? the Aboriginals or the immigrants or the "boat people"? Training somewhere in the outback??

And care to share this ranking of the top three coins.

this was totally uncalled for

you guys have a big country and a good international standing but your arguments are petty... come on and grow out of this nonsense please

yes your goverment shows its displeasure over this training but lets leave it here.. why do you have to come that low to expose your jealousy? Australia is a sovereign nation and doesnt have to take dictation from India over its dealings with other countries.

 

[Guest01]

this was totally uncalled for

you guys have a big country and a good international standing but your arguments are petty... come on and grow out of this nonsense please

yes your goverment shows its displeasure over this training but lets leave it here.. why do you have to come that low to expose your jealousy? Australia is a sovereign nation and doesnt have to take dictation from India over its dealings with other countries.

It has nothing to do with Australia making their decision or anything being against Australia. I know too many of them to ever want bad for them. My response was only to highlight the nonchanlance of the post that I responded to. While I anyway know that the Aussies have a way of doing their own thing and in the end it is generally right so nothing to worry there but anyway, regretful that i said that. I am going to drink a couple of extra Toohey's tomorrow and help the economy.

 

[Bang Galore]

Do your homework before asking such a stupid question.
If you knew anything about COIN you would know we are in the top 3 nations re COIN. India and Pakistan aint in that group of 3 either.

How do you figure that? Can't recall Australia involved in fighting COIN battles over any sustained period to account for that expertise. Pakistan has only recently started COIN operations & will probably take some time evolving home grown procedures but India has been doing it for ages & it's only commonsensical to assume that the knowledge gleaned from actual operations counts for more.

Having said that, I don't understand what India is worked up about unless it is the very act of training with Pakistani forces that is the issue.

 

[justanobserver]

How do you figure that? Can't recall Australia involved in fighting COIN battles over any sustained period to account for that expertise. Pakistan has only recently started COIN operations & will probably take some time evolving home grown procedures but India has been doing it for ages & it's only commonsensical to assume that the knowledge gleaned from actual operations counts for more.

SriLanka too. SriLanka should be>>>Australia in COIN ops

 

[xdrive]

How do you figure that? Can't recall Australia involved in fighting COIN battles over any sustained period to account for that expertise. Pakistan has only recently started COIN operations & will probably take some time evolving home grown procedures but India has been doing it for ages & it's only commonsensical to assume that the knowledge gleaned from actual operations counts for more.

Having said that, I don't understand what India is worked up about unless it is the very act of training with Pakistani forces that is the issue.

You don't have to be involved in heaps of battles to be expertly trained. A training system has be developed over the past 50 years and has been perfected.

And for the record, Australia has been involved in alot of COIN operations, such as east timor, solomon islands, Malayan emergency. All of them are counter insurgency/rebel conflicts. We also do alot of COIN in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Interesting video to watch of Australian SAS doing COIN training.
YouTube - SAS Australian SASR

As you can see, they are pretty good.

 

[Asif_Nawaz]

india always crying country
she was crying
she is crying
And INSHALLAH She will be crying

 

[Gold1010]

We have a Defence force Tv advert where a pilot says hes trained F-15 pilots in the united states

Australia have also trained indonesian soldiers.

 

[Marauder]

You don't have to be involved in heaps of battles to be expertly trained. A training system has be developed over the past 50 years and has been perfected.

And for the record, Australia has been involved in alot of COIN operations, such as east timor, solomon islands, Malayan emergency. All of them are counter insurgency/rebel conflicts. We also do alot of COIN in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As you can see, they are pretty good.

The so called Insurgents in the countries you mentioned are no match to the terrorists being harboured by Pak, neither in terms of skill nor in terms of weapons.

Only thing Aussies can teach is racial discrimination.

 

[xdrive]

Only thing Aussies can teach is racial discrimination.

Trolling idiotic comments such as these are not welcomed and it only makes you look like an idiot.

 

[Gold1010]

The so called Insurgents in the countries you mentioned are no match to the terrorists being harboured by Pak, neither in terms of skill nor in terms of weapons.

Only thing Aussies can teach is racial discrimination.

yeah because india is racist free right.

Most modern racial discriminations/attacks are done by ethnic minorities who hardly call themselves australian.

during the "indian student attacks" Lebanese youths attacked a indian protest but i dont hear you calling them out?

 

[Marauder]

Trolling idiotic comments such as these are not welcomed and it only makes you look like an idiot.

Just picking up P.S (kind of) from my entire post n replying to it only makes u sound like a leader of the idiotic pack. "Aussie4ever" replied better.

 

[xdrive]

Just picking up P.S (kind of) from my entire post n replying to it only makes u sound like a leader of the idiotic pack. "Aussie4ever" replied better.

But it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. There has been much controversy around so called "racist" attacks so you decided to post a stupid smart *** comment "Australia only teaches racial discrimination" That is insulting and idiotic. So my statement still stands.

Please refrain from posting idiotic and insulting comments.

 

[Guest01]

You don't have to be involved in heaps of battles to be expertly trained. A training system has be developed over the past 50 years and has been perfected.

And for the record, Australia has been involved in alot of COIN operations, such as east timor, solomon islands, Malayan emergency. All of them are counter insurgency/rebel conflicts. We also do alot of COIN in Iraq and Afghanistan.

X,

I think his post (like mine), was in response to the pompous tone of Ratus while claiming some ranking earlier in this thread. While no disrespect for the Aussies (I have seen many upclose) professionalism, there is unfortunatley no laboratory substitute to an actual COIN environment. Specially when domestic. The number of variables - political, social, military - are so much and the pressure so tremendous that it does not even compare with any operation in a foreign country.

So once again, there is no substitute for the real thing. Unfortunately, in India, we have too much of the real thing from various sources. Highly trained and motivated. So I think that let us leave it there. Because hey, I would not give a rat's *** about how good the Indians were at COIN. I just pray that we did not have to be good. Because, to be good, you need to have the insurgency, which is not desirable to say the least.

 

[xdrive]

X,

I think his post (like mine), was in response to the pompous tone of Ratus while claiming some ranking earlier in this thread. While no disrespect for the Aussies (I have seen many upclose) professionalism, there is unfortunatley no laboratory substitute to an actual COIN environment. Specially when domestic. The number of variables - political, social, military - are so much and the pressure so tremendous that it does not even compare with any operation in a foreign country.

So once again, there is no substitute for the real thing. Unfortunately, in India, we have too much of the real thing from various sources. Highly trained and motivated. So I think that let us leave it there. Because hey, I would not give a rat's *** about how good the Indians were at COIN. I just pray that we did not have to be good. Because, to be good, you need to have the insurgency, which is not desirable to say the least.

Well you obviously don't have to have an insurgency to be good at COIN hence why Pakistan is hiring us to teach them.