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India's farming community averaging 28 suicides a day

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That is significiant amount of suicide per day. I didnt know Suicide was a major factor in India. It is something that has never been present in India culturally
 
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But they are supa pawa....have trillions of dollars in account..... :lol:
Waiting for a certain Indian member to come up with, India is a democracy so it's transparent and Russia, America, Ethiopia have more suicides than India.
 
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Unfortunately Punjab is one of the region's where Dowry is rampant. If anyone had managed to read that article the poor man had got an loan for his daughter's marriage and people know the rate of marrying someone in Punjab. Some parts of India needs an consciousness that involve not spending millions on extra expenses.
 
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Unfortunately Punjab is one of the region's where Dowry is rampant. If anyone had managed to read that article the poor man had got an loan for his daughter's marriage and people know the rate of marrying someone in Punjab. Some parts of India needs an consciousness that involve not spending millions on extra expenses.

Not true...

According to a report by the National Crime Records Bureau, the states with the highest incidence of farmer suicide in 2015 were Maharashtra (3,030), Telangana (1,358), Karnataka (1,197), Madhya Pradesh (581), Andhra Pradesh (516), and Chhattisgarh (854).


Indian Punjab have better community support system and better distribution of wealth, not entrenched in oppression by the landowners who will skin the poor farmers. And in Punjab they are land owners, compared to poor farmers working on leased land.
 
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That is significiant amount of suicide per day. I didnt know Suicide was a major factor in India. It is something that has never been present in India culturally

On the contrary suicide is not rare in India. Various groups do it. For example, students.

Even in USA there are farmer suicides but in India it is vastly more because India is an extremely capitalist country and that has been so for 3000 or so years. The caste system is one component of this. In India, suicide for socio-economic reasons is an acceptable part of culture.

To come back to present times India, and this is my refrain here, just between the ten year period of 1995 to 2015 there were 300,000+ farmer suicides. If these many suicides would have happened among say the middle class software engineers the middle class would have probably risen in revolt. But in case of the farmers the middle class has not done so.

The article in the OP speaks of depleted ground water as one reason for suicides. Another reason in India is the small size of farm lands - of a few acres - which get smaller through distribution among children during inheritance time.

Another reason for farmer suicide in much of India is micro-finance given by private lenders, dedicated micro-finance ( such as SKS Microfinance ) and sometimes regular banks. Many a time the loan ( small ) is given at high interest rate. The loan will be enough only for some immediate necessity ( say purchase of fertilizer ) and not for turning the loan taker to become rich. Harassment by agents of the loan giver in a social environment where suicide is acceptable turns thoughts of the farmer towards suicide. And some do it.

What should be done in India should be to turn agriculture into a scientific practice / methodology : Collectivized farm labor, computer-controlled Vertical Farming and Urban Farming; and water pipelines from rivers to the point of farm usage ( like the Libyan GMMR ( Great Manmade River ) project. Gather the populations of say ten villages and provide the people with a new township where farming is done is the aforementioned way.

@Sharma Ji
 
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On the contrary suicide is not rare in India. Various groups do it. For example, students.

Even in USA there are farmer suicides but in India it is vastly more because India is an extremely capitalist country and that has been so for 3000 or so years. The caste system is one component of this. In India, suicide for socio-economic reasons is an acceptable part of culture.

To come back to present times India, and this is my refrain here, just between the ten year period of 1995 to 2015 there were 300,000+ farmer suicides. If these many suicides would have happened among say the middle class software engineers the middle class would have probably risen in revolt. But in case of the farmers the middle class has not done so.

The article in the OP speaks of depleted ground water as one reason for suicides. Another reason in India is the small size of farm lands - of a few acres - which get smaller through distribution among children during inheritance time.

Another reason for farmer suicide in much of India is micro-finance given by private lenders, dedicated micro-finance ( such as SKS Microfinance ) and sometimes regular banks. Many a time the loan ( small ) is given at high interest rate. The loan will be enough only for some immediate necessity ( say purchase of fertilizer ) and not for turning the loan taker to become rich. Harassment by agents of the loan giver in a social environment where suicide is acceptable turns thoughts of the farmer towards suicide. And some do it.

What should be done in India should be to turn agriculture into a scientific practice / methodology : Collectivized farm labor, computer-controlled Vertical Farming and Urban Farming; and water pipelines from rivers to the point of farm usage ( like the Libyan GMMR ( Great Manmade River ) project. Gather the populations of say ten villages and provide the people with a new township where farming is done is the aforementioned way.
Just my opinion, there is no comparison between software engineers and farmers. What is a average farmer but a self-employed laborer ?

The scientific farming you mentioned would become a engineering and computer science thing, with lots of automation and less labour. Bitter reality is, that laborious work has no value, in modern age, even very skilled craftsmen, very skilled with hands, are outdated due to technology.

In my humble opinion, it is best to adapt to changes and reskill ourselves. But not everyone can adapt. Only thing that would help such people who can't help themselves is democracy and voting rights. I thank God everyday for democracy and the right to vote.
 
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Just my opinion, there is no comparison between software engineers and farmers. What is a average farmer but a self-employed laborer ?

The scientific farming you mentioned would become a engineering and computer science thing, with lots of automation and less labour. Bitter reality is, that laborious work has no value, in modern age, even very skilled craftsmen, very skilled with hands, are outdated due to technology.

In my humble opinion, it is best to adapt to changes and reskill ourselves.

Agreed.

But not everyone can adapt.

I am sure that all current farmers can be taught to adapt to scientific agriculture to different levels. It needs a vocational training where a stipend is paid to the trainee for more motivation.

Only thing that would help such people who can't help themselves is democracy and voting rights. I thank God everyday for democracy and the right to vote.

Well, India, USA, Pakistan, Britain etc don't have real democracy. For what is real democracy please read this post of mine.
 
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