India's conventional military superiority over Pakistan is exaggerated.

[Hellfire]

no this is clearly a 2.5 to 1 or 3 to 1 advantage, and this is also not taking into account the quality of weapons either.

Let him be happy ..... he has absolutely not factored in things which are available in the domain but need collating. As it is often said in intelligence services, the int is there, it is always the question of joining the dots and not all analysts are able to do that.

Plz don't ask silly questions in which class are you studying tell the truth and plz no silly questions or I won't answer.

By capable I mean they have more quantity of troops and better toys to fight with where as their opponent doesn't have better new toys like Arabs and not capable means even with new toys and good size forces they are not very good on ground against their enemies like their wars against Israel they never defeated the Israelis even with superior quantity and equipment

I think you will find you are being silly here ... he is ex-Air Defence >25 years in your defence services ....

So, the joke is on you mate .... !

 

[90ArsalanLeo]

A song dedicated to Pakistan . Thank you .

Pakistan we already have plans for you . So it is always a matter of executing them . Soon or later ...

A song dedicated to Pakistan . Thank you .

It doesn't matter what subramy.... says whether he has plans or not he should know world doesnt revolve around his finger tips Pakistan Armed Forces are not alone when push comes to shove 200 million Pakistan will fight to the last blood this country can't be destroyed.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I respect your reply. I yearn for the two countries to be friendly. My family is from Pakistan Punjab and I have great affection for the land.

You say that you are progressing despite all odds. I'm sure you're right! But tell me how these odds have come to be? Its your military leadership man! For years they've experimented with extremism and terrorism. And the result is that your own country is now infested with terrorists.
Your economic & civic development has suffered in making way for military development. And that is because you have always lived in India's shadow. You guys had a better economy than India after Independence. But thanks to two decades of military government, you lost it all. And then Jihad. Your military dug your grave. And it will continue to do so.

Yes, we lost the war with China. But the world condemned the Chinese action, not ours. We have our share of poverty and illiteracy. But we have been successful in projecting our image as that of a powerful country, not only militarily but in terms of soft power as well.

And about the Kashmir thing, if someone did take Kashmir illegally, it was Pakistan. Which compelled the Maharaja to join India to defend his state against Pakistan--sponsered agression.
If you have a different story, then you will have confirmed being a true Pakistani! In any case, the whole world knows the story mentioned above.
And I don't know about building dams on water or whatever, Pakistan attacked India in each war. Never the other way round. 1947, 1965, 1971, 1999. The only time India acted agressively was in Siachen to take control of the land that legally belongs to her.

Pakistan doesn't live in india's shadow as quite frankly, security and military threats from india aside, Pakistan is as alien to India as Lebanon and Jordan are. We are an independent, sovereign Muslim country. We are a completely different race, culture and religion to indian people. We don't even look like them. We can't live in india shadow as the differences between Pakistan and india are too vast and unbridgeable. Hence both nations can never be compared.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I guess there's no tax on talking BS.
Did you manage to finish the 1965 war, when in fact your war lords never turned up for the victory toast or did we attack India in 1971.... Indira Gandhi is on record for saying that , ''Indian forces have entered East Pakistan.....in self defence'' ??? ... so learn some history before going berserk with your key board.

Tell me some more, Jammed up. What happened during the 1965 war? What was the lack of finish that you astutely noticed? And what victory toast are you referring to? The famous remark which nobody has been able to trace or source till today?

by the way can somebody sketch, how india will invade pakistan ? i wanna read some war scenarios coz it will be more interesting to read rather than keep posting on and on and wasting the band width and time of readers for nothing,

I don't think you'll get much of a response. My information is that there IS no plan to invade Pakistan.

Sorry about that......

 

[Manas]

Pakistan doesn't live in india's shadow as quite frankly, security and military threats from india aside, Pakistan is as alien to India as Lebanon and Jordan are. We are an independent, sovereign Muslim country. We are a completely different race, culture and religion to indian people. We don't even look like them. We can't live in india shadow as the differences between Pakistan and india are too vast and unbridgeable. Hence both nations can never be compared.

Behooda ..... Tu sacha Behooda ... Tu pakka Behooda

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Behooda ..... Tu sacha Behooda ... Tu pakka Behooda

English please. Don't do indian.

 

[waz]

India will strike Pakistan at it's weakest point i.e. the Navy. Pakistan's biggest city lies on the coast and given the pathetic state of the navy, it won't be able to do a great deal against India's Western fleet. The PAF will then be hard pressed to defend Karachi, and deliver support to the PA, and defend the skies against the IAF.
India isn't stupid enough to go for a full frontal assault against the PA, which will wear it down and lead to little success.
Pakistan has severe conventional failings in sea power, is behind in air power, and is the same when it comes to ground strength, given the smaller land area it has to defend.
War won't happen, but a limited engagement isn't in the realm of impossibility.
All in all Pakistan needs to grow its economy and not worry about what India is doing, why you may ask? It is because it is no position to address the conventional imbalances at this point in time.

 

[khanmubashir]

Firstly, seeing the number of these we have in India, you'd need a million missiles to take them out of action! In contrast, I can count the number of dams power stations and industries you have, on my fingers, of which I have ten!!

Secondly, you do know the consequences of what would happen to you if you strike India with a nuke, don't you? Annihilation!

And then we have a land mass of 2,973,193 sq km! You'd need a gazillion nukes to cover it! How many functional ones do you possess?

and we have land mass of 796096 km2 so by yr stupid math u need 1/4th of gazillion nukes to cover us How many functional ones do you possess? less than us last time check and FYI u dont need to nuke every inch u retard we have 150+ nukes for yr 20+ megacities 1 is enough to kill and destroy most of a city

 

[Manas]

English please. Don't do indian.

It was Urdu genius .

Hmm So Mr PAKISTANFOREVER doesn't know pakistan's national language Urdu . LOL Behooda Tu sacha Behooda .

 

[khanmubashir]

Try kicking them out in a conventional war!! You haven't even been able to defeat the freedom fighters in Balochistan since 1947!! So friend, fighting an insurgency or COIN ops is not the same as a conventional war.

So please don't delude yourselves into thinking that you have defeated the US or USSR!


Right! We've seen that since 1947!

Try kicking them out in a conventional war!! You haven't even been able to defeat the freedom fighters in Balochistan since 1947!! So friend, fighting an insurgency or COIN ops is not the same as a conventional war.

So please don't delude yourselves into thinking that you have defeated the US or USSR!


Right! We've seen that since 1947!

there is no baloch separation issue it was created by corrupt feudals & their goons whose life is everything in contrast to the democracy and wishes of masses just to hold onto power and misdirect people have u worked with baloch my admin is baloch he is happy with us the issue is corruption and terrorism in which to some extent foreign hand is involved
A question. If we are committing genocide against the Balochs then why we have Baloch officers and soldiers in our army. If there is no RAW then from where BLA, BRA are getting arms, funding etc? RAW is behind BLA, BRA and we haven't occupied it forcefully. Its our land. One question for India. The genocide of Kashmiris? Forcefully occupation of Hyderabad. Forceful occupation of Gurdaspur and Kashmir. Forceful occupation of land (Portuguese land)

but still we did kick them out and FYI there is no baloch separation issue it was created by corrupt feudals & their goons whose life is everything in contrast to the democracy and wishes of masses just to hold onto power and misdirect people have u worked with baloch my admin is baloch he is happy with us the issue is corruption and terrorism in which to some extent foreign hand is involved
A question. If we are committing genocide against the Balochs then why we have Baloch officers and soldiers in our army. If there is no RAW then from where BLA, BRA are getting arms, funding etc? RAW is behind BLA, BRA and we haven't occupied it forcefully. Its our land. One question for India. The genocide of Kashmiris? Forcefully occupation of Hyderabad. Forceful occupation of Gurdaspur and Kashmir. Forceful occupation of land (Portuguese land)

 

[Manas]

and we have land mass of 796096 km2 so by yr stupid math u need 1/4th of gazillion nukes to cover us How many functional ones do you possess? less than us last time check and FYI u dont need to nuke every inch u retard we have 150+ nukes for yr 20+ megacities 1 is enough to kill and destroy most of a city

You fire your first Nasr .

We fire all 50 Prithivi missiles ( full Quota for pakistan) sitting some few KM away Pakistan borders carrying 60KT Nukes and having range of 150 to 250 KM . This is our deal pakistan .

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

And yet, here is a thread and thousands more like it (in fact 70% of this website) comparing Pakistan and India. If not the same, we are too similar to ignore.

That still doesn't change the fact that the 2 nations are two vastly different entities. This is a Pakistani defence/military forum and india is our main enemy so we talk about the indian threat endlessly. Same way the Iraqis discussed the american military threat. Doesn't make Iraqis and americans the same people does it?

The moment india ceases to be a threat to Pakistan, no Pakistani forum would probably mention india again. Because there would be no need or reason too.

 

[Centurion2016]

The lack bravado in the forum is impressive
The lack of understanding modern warefare is astonishing.
The unwillingness to see or acknowledge your weaknesses is sign of internal inferiority complex.

Indians openly tell you they need to replace their mig fleet
indians openly tell you they need T72 to be ungraded to have nightvision
that the indian army lacks x y & z

its open there are no secrets its there to see....

YET WILL A PAKISTANI EVER SAY

80% of the PAF is obsolete with no bvr and just dated mirages/F7/mig21 clones.

That PAF has 10% THE AIRLIFT capacity of the Indians

That PAF has virtual zero medium or long range SAM or ABM systems.

That the PAKISTANI army still has 800 T59S that are 50 year old technology

hardly any helicopters and virtually enough ammo and reserves to fight for 7-10 days

Finally how many cities of major importance sit within touching distance of the indian military. Lahore Islamabhad rawlpindi . ie all your entire commercial centres are with in 5 mins range of cruse missles smirch BMRL and massive air strikes

india has weaknesses but if they ever had the courage or resolve to unleash their entire military and conventional might to destroy Pakistan they can wreck havoc in all of pakistans key industrial and military centres.

Simply the Indians have
Far greater strategic depth
Far more resources
Far more political support

What the Indians lack has some one suggested is the stomach for the fight or they worry too much about GDP GROWTH .

FOR Pakistanis they have nothing to lose

 

[khanmubashir]

You fire your first Nasr .

We fire all 50 Prithivi missiles ( full Quota for pakistan) sitting some few KM away Pakistan borders carrying 60KT Nukes and having range of 150 to 250 KM . This is our deal pakistan .

and we will fire 100 nukes from 60km nasar to 3000km shaheen that covers whole of india and still have 50 to spare if not more

 

[90ArsalanLeo]

India will strike Pakistan at it's weakest point i.e. the Navy. Pakistan's biggest city lies on the coast and given the pathetic state of the navy, it won't be able to do a great deal against India's Western fleet. The PAF will then be hard pressed to defend Karachi, and deliver support to the PA, and defend the skies against the IAF.
India isn't stupid enough to go for a full frontal assault against the PA, which will wear it down and lead to little success.
Pakistan has severe conventional failings in sea power, is behind in air power, and is the same when it comes to ground strength, given the smaller land area it has to defend.
War won't happen, but a limited engagement isn't in the realm of impossibility.
All in all Pakistan needs to grow its economy and not worry about what India is doing, why you may ask? It is because it is no position to address the conventional imbalances at this point in time.

Pakistan Recently tested coastal anti-ship missile this defense system will provide some deterrence for our navy.