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India's air defense radar system has holes in it, lot's of them. And now the secret is out. Earlier this year, India announced that it had completed a program that combines radar data from all military and civilian aircraft tracking radars in southern India. This was done using software that merges all the tracing information, eliminating duplication and showing on one screen everything in the air from the Bay of Bengal to the Arabian Sea, the Indian Ocean and northern Sri Lanka. Naturally, this got people asking about the coverage over the rest of India's borders. These questions acquired some urgency, because India's main enemies (Pakistan and China) are in the north. Turned out the radar coverage in the rest of India was very spotty.

What is to be done? For the moment, not much. India began buying new surveillance radars in the early 1990s, as an effort to replace systems acquired in the 1970s. But the old stuff was wearing out (or just breaking down a lot), and there was not enough money to buy replacements quickly enough. This was kept quiet. For good reason. Knowledge of these gaps would be useful to the commanders of enemy air forces. Perhaps Pakistan and China already know where the gaps are. Pakistan has maritime reconnaissance aircraft that often patrol near the Indian coast. These aircraft can pick up and record data on radar signals. That will show you where the gaps are, and how frequently the gaps appear. It's now known that India only has about a quarter of the transportable radars (to quickly plug gaps) it needs. Making the situation general knowledge puts pressure on Indian politicians to provide the money for more radars, sooner.

link is Air Defense: The Great Gaps Of India


practically is it possible for pakistan to find out the gaps in radar signal
if yes then how can pakistan take advantage of this situation? is it possible to exploit such weakness in case of recent indian agression?
please lets make a proper technical discussion about such a scenerio?
 
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Lol Funny....
Indias space org is trying to do something instead of radar..dont know the technical details or how its done kinds...

SOMETHING means confidential guys..I cant give out that secret...
 
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we are coming in a war with India n NATO vs Pakistan,Iran,Turkey,Syrie,Saudi n China lets do this ; i would not like to see Russia neutral we will more than happy if you want to participate.
 
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I told you I dont know the technical details....some satellite related program to find ships or aircrafts near the border.
on the war It will be lot of fun if india keeps itself out and watch NATO vs Pak :)
 
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I told you I dont know the technical details....some satellite related program[/SIZE] to find ships or aircrafts near the border.
on the war It will be lot of fun if india keeps itself out and watch NATO vs Pak :)

as far as i know they still dont have a dedicated military satellite.might be now they use a russian or israeli military satellite.does anyone has any more information on this?
moreover i was talking about a possible indian agression <scenerio> in recent times after the aftermath of mumbai attacks and not in the near future because military technologies and capabilities in south asia is changing by the hour.
 
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ok now AM has clamped down on you guys :) here is some news:

IAF plan to link civilian, defence radars takes off-India-The Times of India

IAF plan to link civilian, defence radars takes off
20 Dec 2008, 0629 hrs IST, Rajat Pandit , TNN

NEW DELHI: After an excruciating 10-year delay, the critical requirement for the country to have a fully-automated network to integrate the wide array of military radars with each other as well as with civilian radars is finally making some progress now.

The first of the five nodes of IACCS (integrated air command and control system) will be operational in the western sector facing Pakistan by early-2009, said defence ministry sources on Friday. IAF, in fact, wants 10 IACCS nodes to cover the entire country but the government has approved only five so far. IAF had moved the IACCS case as far back as December 1998 since Indian airspace is far from impregnable. But government apathy hampered its timely implementation.

Something like IACCS becomes even more crucial today in light of intelligence reports holding that terror could strike through the aerial route after the maritime one. As earlier reported by TOI, India&#8217;s air defence coverage has several gaping holes, especially over central and peninsular India, which can be exploited by &#8216;&#8216;hostile&#8217;&#8217; aircraft quite easily.

At present, command and control of air defence operations is exercised manually from ADDCs (air defence directional centres) located in different sectors.

The automated IACCS, once it comes up, will enable quick transfer of data from low-level transportable radars (LLTRs), high-power static radars and medium-power radars as well as ground stations of AWACS (airborne warning and control systems) and aerostat radars to one central place. With multi-sensor tracking and data fusion ensuring &#8216;&#8216;a filtered and composite real-time air situation picture&#8217;&#8217; at one central place, air defence operations will be much swifter.
 
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ok now AM has clamped down on you guys :) here is some news:

IAF plan to link civilian, defence radars takes off-India-The Times of India

IAF plan to link civilian, defence radars takes off
20 Dec 2008, 0629 hrs IST, Rajat Pandit , TNN

NEW DELHI: After an excruciating 10-year delay, the critical requirement for the country to have a fully-automated network to integrate the wide array of military radars with each other as well as with civilian radars is finally making some progress now.

The first of the five nodes of IACCS (integrated air command and control system) will be operational in the western sector facing Pakistan by early-2009, said defence ministry sources on Friday. IAF, in fact, wants 10 IACCS nodes to cover the entire country but the government has approved only five so far. IAF had moved the IACCS case as far back as December 1998 since Indian airspace is far from impregnable. But government apathy hampered its timely implementation.

Something like IACCS becomes even more crucial today in light of intelligence reports holding that terror could strike through the aerial route after the maritime one. As earlier reported by TOI, India’s air defence coverage has several gaping holes, especially over central and peninsular India, which can be exploited by ‘‘hostile’’ aircraft quite easily.

At present, command and control of air defence operations is exercised manually from ADDCs (air defence directional centres) located in different sectors.

The automated IACCS, once it comes up, will enable quick transfer of data from low-level transportable radars (LLTRs), high-power static radars and medium-power radars as well as ground stations of AWACS (airborne warning and control systems) and aerostat radars to one central place. With multi-sensor tracking and data fusion ensuring ‘‘a filtered and composite real-time air situation picture’’ at one central place, air defence operations will be much swifter.

just accept it you n your countrys defence is a big pathetic joke...
 
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Good post Nitesh,

However, while the plans to integrate/network the various radars into one central system are impressive (I believe Pakistan has integrated its own various radar systems for a few years now), what updates do you have on actual radar coverage improvements or gaps, to further expound upon what the original article suggests?
 
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Good post Nitesh,

However, while the plans to integrate/network the various radars into one central system are impressive (I believe Pakistan has integrated its own various radar systems for a few years now), what updates do you have on actual radar coverage improvements or gaps, to further expound upon what the original article suggests?

AM, it is already tested (Prime contractor being Jupiter Group) the time is for roll out the major issue was having two different network the Civil Aviation Network (Under a different ministry) and IAF under defense ministry. This is major cause for delay but now the work should move in fast phase.
 
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AM, it is already tested (Prime contractor being Jupiter Group) the time is for roll out the major issue was having two different network the Civil Aviation Network (Under a different ministry) and IAF under defense ministry. This is major cause for delay but now the work should move in fast phase.

Correct me if I am wrong, but what you are referring to is the integration process of existing radar systems.

What I was referring to was what the original article refers to here:

India began buying new surveillance radars in the early 1990s, as an effort to replace systems acquired in the 1970s. But the old stuff was wearing out (or just breaking down a lot), and there was not enough money to buy replacements quickly enough. This was kept quiet. For good reason. Knowledge of these gaps would be useful to the commanders of enemy air forces. Perhaps Pakistan and China already know where the gaps are. Pakistan has maritime reconnaissance aircraft that often patrol near the Indian coast. These aircraft can pick up and record data on radar signals. That will show you where the gaps are, and how frequently the gaps appear. It's now known that India only has about a quarter of the transportable radars (to quickly plug gaps) it needs. Making the situation general knowledge puts pressure on Indian politicians to provide the money for more radars, sooner.

If you don't have sufficient radar systems to provide complete coverage, integration will only do some much, correct?
 
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The problem started getting sorted out with acquisition of Green Pine radar. The major issue with any defense purchase in India is system integration. Because of lot of different inventory. Now IAF has ordered 30 Rohini radar systems from BEL (30 have been ordered). 11 aerostats radars were ordered (not 11 in one shot 2 nos. were ordered some 2 years before then 4 more ordered now, one will be deployed /already deployed in Delhi). All in all the revamp process is going on but it will take time to have a good coverage.
 
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