India's 2nd air craft carrier would be, of Catobar Type.

[Koovie]

Where did you use to see it from? The Willingdon Island Bridge, or from the Ernakulam waterfront?

I could see it from a bridge a couple of months ago, but no idea about its name

 

[Star Wars]

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I could see it from a bridge a couple of months ago, but no idea about its name

Do you mean the bridge that crosses from Ernakulam to Willingdon Island?

 

[Rangila]

Nuclear propulsion would have been better and much cheaper fuel wise. That way no need to stop for bunkers.

 

[li0nheart]

@ OP, you cannot assume that from an article by a Russian author! Dreaming is good but daydreaming not so!
The makings of a naval power | Russia & India Report

 

[Anony]

So this means we can expect a naval MMRCA ?

Not necessarily. IAC-2 will enter service sometime around 2025. By this time N-AMCA will also mature. Even if it takes 2-3 years more, it worth waiting than go for any 4.5 gen fighter. It may also see N-FGFA/N-PAKFA. Since it will able to carry much heavier aircraft, India will want to induct N-FGFA if Russia goes ahead with naval version of FGFA/PAKFA.

 

[anant_s]

IAC being towed to dock dated 11/02/13 on google earth.

Can't make out from the top view, but all of super-structure is yet to assembled.
I'm assuming they are going for some sort of modular construction where the deck structures are being fabricated in parallel, and later will be assembled together. But it still looks a good 4-5 years away from sea trials.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Not necessarily. IAC-2 will enter service sometime around 2025. By this time N-AMCA will also mature. Even if it takes 2-3 years more, it worth waiting than go for any 4.5 gen fighter. It may also see N-FGFA/N-PAKFA. Since it will able to carry much heavier aircraft, India will want to induct N-FGFA if Russia goes ahead with naval version of FGFA/PAKFA.

Very unlikley. The AMCA is going to first be an AF-specific a/c so even at the most optimistic estimates the AF version will be in flight testing by ~2022-4. The work to "navalise" the AMCA will take quite a bit longer and whilst some of the lessons from the N-LCA can be applied to expedite the N-AMCA process there will still have to be a lot of learning and trail and error as some of the tech and design requirements will be brand new to the ADA/HAL ie launching a fighter from a catapult that requires strentghing of the forward fuselage so the plane isn't ripped to shreds on take-off, not to mention the AMCA will be twin engined and will have stealth features which bring about their own unique challenges.



Ideally, and I think @sancho has championed this, the AMCA would be built from the ground up as a naval-specific fighter which can later have an AF variant, much like the Super Hornets and Hornets before them (in their current form, not mentioning the time the F-18 bid and lost to the F-16 for the USAF). It has been proven to be much easier to make a naval fighter AF compliant than the other way around, the N-LCA and never-to-be Sea-Typhoon are proof of this.


IIRC the chief test pilot of the N-LCA said as much in an Aero India seminar talk in 2011.



As such it is between the N-MMRCA and N-FGFA to fly off the IAC-2 IMHO. However it remains to be seen whether the FGFA can easily be modified into a CATOBAR-complaint fighter as traditionally the Russians have designed their naval fighters to be STOBAR-configured so if this is what has been planned for the PAK-FA/FGFA naval variants then it is,again, likely going to be an uphill battle to make the FGFA navailised and able to operate off the IN's CATOBAR carriers.


We will first have to wait for this news (65,000+ ton CATOBAR-configured ACC) to be confirmed then have to wait and see what way the IN are looking as far as air group is concerned. On this front we should also watch for any developments interest in purchasing embarked AWACS.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Can't make out from the top view, but all of super-structure is yet to assembled.
I'm assuming they are going for some sort of modular construction where the deck structures are being fabricated in parallel, and later will be assembled together. But it still looks a good 4-5 years away from sea trials.

Google earth is not real time, it's typically 18 odd months differential I believe.

 

[aakash_2410]

Oui to the French. The Poms will best left alone!

Do you even know what you're saying?

POM (Prisoners Of Majesty) is a derogatory term used by Aussies against Brits since, it is commonly believed that most of white Aussies are descendants of British convicts who were prisoners in Australia. So, it's an Aussie way of saying 'you're still a prisoner of your majesty.'

You're not Australian, you just killed it. Plus you're indirectly making fun of India's colonised past. So, know what it means before you use it.

And why not the Brits may I ask?

 

[IND151]

So this means we can expect a naval MMRCA ?

probably, Rafale M may get selected

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Do you even know what you're saying?

POM (Prisoners Of Majesty) is a derogatory term used by Aussies against Brits since, it is commonly believed that most of white Aussies are descendants of British convicts who were prisoners in Australia. So, it's an Aussie way of saying 'you're still a prisoner of your majesty.'

You're not Australian, you just killed it. Plus you're indirectly making fun of India's colonised past. So, know what it means before you use it.

And why not the Brits may I ask?

The Brits are not the best in the business now . They are out of kilter now where ACs are concerned especially CATOBAR designs now.
I may not be a Digger, but that is no reason not to call Brits-Poms. India's colonial past is a fact as is the fact that Britain is pretty much knackered now.

 

[CarbonD]

IAC being towed to dock dated 11/02/13 on google earth.

Is it just me or IAC looks kind of small.
I guess once island is in place it might get bigger I suppose

 

[kurup]

Google earth is not real time, it's typically 18 odd months differential I believe.

From the pic itself you can see that the imagery date is 11/2/2013 .That is hardly two months old.

 

[IND151]

In the summer of 2012, India began work on a second aircraft carrier under its IAC programme. The INS Vishal is due to follow the Vikramaditya and the new Vikrant into service in the early 2020s. It will be much larger than both its sister vessels. The displacement of the Vishal will exceed 65,000 metric tonnes, against the 40,000 metric tonnes of its two predecessors. In 2010, Chief of Staff of the Indian Navy Admiral Nirmal Kumar Verma announced that the future ship would be a "large aircraft carrier capable of hosting fighters, AWACS aircraft, [tactical flying] tankers, and other hardware."

The technical specification automatically does away with STOBAR (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery), adopted for the Vikramaditya and the new Vikrant, because the deployment of flying radars and tankers on board requires a fully operational CATOBAR (Catapult Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) system, functionally similar to the U.S. super carriers and France's Charles de Gaulle. But it is not ruled out that the vessel will feature a combined scheme: the ramp in the bow will be supplemented by a catapult on the corner deck, as contained in the blueprint of the unfinished Soviet Ulyanovsk.
пустым не оставлять!!

@sancho @Penguin> have you heard about this


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