Indians to demonstrate in front of UN August 12 against Lokpal Bill

[kingkobra]

Anna is all well and good and his motivations are all noble - but his methods at least in this case are wrong - whats to stop people like ramdev who just care for themselves and their own political ambitions to use these same methods against the govt if hazare succeeds.

Well people are tired of politicians so i do not think people will blindly support those who have political motives behind their actions...yet i will say if motive is good and outcome is not going to harm anyone then government should bend..after all we elect them for progress of this country..

 

[Kadamba]

I suggested constant demands and the odd one day protest which will not have a huge impact on the economy( thus cannot be called blackmail ) but will bring in the media and that is what matters. this is the media era not gandhian.

Even Anna did fast one day fast but whats the result. Did Government took him seriously?. Smilarly such one day strikes will be either ignored or will be muscled down with force.
Buddy remember one thing, "l@@ton ke bh00t baaton se nahin maante "

 

[Jon Snow]

Well people are tired of politicians so i do not think people will blindly support those who have political motives behind their actions...yet i will say if motive is good and outcome is not going to harm anyone then government should bend..after all we elect them for progress of this country..

what you are saying is that the ends justify the means and i am disagreeing - that's all there is to it

 

[ashokdeiva]

who included chemists and hospitals in strikes - they should always be left out. and every method will have consequences - gandhian involved people protesting against the british and to boycott govt jobs, colleges etc - leaving thousands of people with no access to education and no jobs hence no livelihood.

you are living in a world of dreams, Media attention for the strick that you claim will not even be published or telecast if the government wants to. but when it comes to the Gandhian way. People still belive in the living legend in what can be achieved with Fasting.
Even Baghat Singh fasted in Jail to get what all prisoner should get.

And Ramdev case is a curious case, where people are not idiots to just blindly elect him. His cause was correct for Corruption so he enjoyed his diciples support. if the cause was crap then he would have been scraped by his own disiples. You think that the people do not question when following newbies.

 

[Jon Snow]

Even Anna did fast one day fast but whats the result. Did Government took him seriously?. Smilarly such one day strikes will be either ignored or will be muscled down with force.
Buddy remember one thing, "laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahin maante "

if the govt doesnt take him seriously then whats stopping him from forming his own political party and contesting elections and hence truly proving whether he has majority support or not???
this is a democracy - he has every right to do exactly what i have stated and with his current popularity he might even succeed.

 

[Jon Snow]

you are living in a world of dreams, Media attention for the strick that you claim will not even be published or telecast if the government wants to. but when it comes to the Gandhian way. People still belive in the living legend in what can be achieved with Fasting.
Even Baghat Singh fasted in Jail to get what all prisoner should get.

And Ramdev case is a curious case, where people are not idiots to just blindly elect him. His cause was correct for Corruption so he enjoyed his diciples support. if the cause was crap then he would have been scraped by his own disiples. You think that the people do not question when following newbies.

in those days india was not democratic and these were the only options( and they too had bad consequences ), now whats stopping hazare from forming his party and contesting elections - if he loses then he is opposition and can question the govt on its every move and if he wins he can get his own lokpal.
as gandhi says Be the change you want to see

 

[ashokdeiva]

in those days india was not democratic and these were the only options( and they too had bad consequences ), now whats stopping hazare from forming his party and contesting elections - if he loses then he is opposition and can question the govt on its every move and if he wins he can get his own lokpal.
as gandhi says Be the change you want to see

You want a peoples man to be turned in to some guy with a political agenda, so that no one in the future will follow the food steps of Gandhi and Congress can shi* on the entire nation.

Guys, Jon Snow is a Congress agent who is starting a propaganda against Anna.
LOL

 

[Swati Shukla]

we are with u anna... we want jan lokpal bill not this sarkari jokepal.

 

[DkBose]

we are with u anna... we want jan lokpal bill not this sarkari jokepal.

i m with you

 

[Jon Snow]

You want a peoples man to be turned in to some guy with a political agenda, so that no one in the future will follow the food steps of Gandhi and Congress can shi* on the entire nation.

Guys, Jon Snow is a Congress agent who is starting a propaganda against Anna.
LOL

my bad, missed the sarcasm
maybe you have forgotten that gandhi himself was part of the same congress.

 

[Kadamba]

if the govt doesnt take him seriously then whats stopping him from forming his own political party and contesting elections and hence truly proving whether he has majority support or not???
this is a democracy - he has every right to do exactly what i have stated and with his current popularity he might even succeed.

What you said is definitely possible. However, here the main objective is change in system by incorporating strong lokpal and lokayuktas in the system so that whoever come to power will not gets a free ride on corruption before its too late. The sooner this happens better for country.

 

[ashokdeiva]

pretty offensive - I can report you for a personal attack - kindly edit.
maybe you have forgotten that gandhi himself was part of the same congress.

you did not answer the question that was on the post, but you feel for a LOL comment

Well well, I suggest you report the post, I am not editing it, You are not that inteligent to see the LOL and the sarcastic comment that I have given and you easily loose temper, which I can not help on. I am atleast happy that you got angry when called as a Congress man.

 

[Jon Snow]

You want a peoples man to be turned in to some guy with a political agenda, so that no one in the future will follow the food steps of Gandhi and Congress can shi* on the entire nation.

Guys, Jon Snow is a Congress agent who is starting a propaganda against Anna.
LOL

If you think that a People's man cannot be a politician then you have clearly lost your faith in the democracy. the whole point of democracy is that a peoples man becomes the leader - unfortunately in india that concept has been lost but hazare has a unique opportunity to bring it back - trust me when I say that if hazare stands for election I will vote for him.

 

[Jon Snow]

Well well, I suggest you report the post, I am not editing it, You are not that inteligent to see the LOL and the sarcastic comment that I have given and you easily loose temper, which I can not help on. I am atleast happy that you got angry when called as a Congress man.

Thnx for the clarification - my bad, I completely missed the sarcasm.

 

[ashokdeiva]

If you think that a People's man cannot be a politician then you have clearly lost your faith in the democracy. the whole point of democracy is that a peoples man becomes the leader - unfortunately in india that concept has been lost but hazare has a unique opportunity to bring it back - trust me when I say that if hazare stands for election I will vote for him.

To be frank, if he starts a political party, he will be screwd by the current politicians saying that this was his motives behind the fasting. He lived as a peoples man and I wish that he dies with this name not being tarnished.
Anna has shown a way for the existing politicians on how to run a country corrupt free, now the responsibility lies with us to make sure that the people running the country do not sell us for bones.