Indians have smaller brains, reveals study

[Whirling_dervesh]

HYDERABAD: Researchers at the International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad (IIIT-H) have created the first-ever Indian Brain Atlas. The study has revealed that the Indian brain, on an average, is smaller in height, width and volume when compared to Western and other eastern populations. This will help in early diagnosis of Alzheimer’s and other brain-related ailments.

The research has been published in Neurology India, a peer-reviewed journal.



Jayanthi Sivaswamy of the Centre for Visual Information Technology, who worked on the project, said that the Montreal Neurological Institute (MNI) template, which is used as the standard, was created using Caucasian brains. This, according to the researchers, is not ideal to analyse brain differences in the Indian population.

“As Indian brains are smaller in size when compared to MNI, the difference in scans can look alarming and lead to misdiagnosis,” Jayanthi told TOI. She added that MRI images are compared with pre-loaded MNI template to arrive at a diagnosis. “There is clear evidence based on the study that it is desirable to build a larger atlas as it is important to understand structurally what is normal. This would help catch several brain conditions early on.”


Jayanthi said that even Chinese and Korean brain templates had been constructed, but there was no corresponding template for the India-specific population. She said that the first attempt by the IIIT-H team at creating an India-specific atlas involved 50 individuals, evenly balanced out across genders.




“MRI scans of these subjects’ brains were taken at three different hospitals across three different scanners to rule out variations in scanning machines. Emboldened by the results of the pilot study, we went on to recruit 100 willing participants in the eventual construction of the atlas, referred to as IBA 100,” she added.




Jayanthi said that the atlas was validated against other atlases for various populations. “These differences in height, width, and volume are found even at the structural level, such as in the volume of the hippocampus and so on. But overall, IBA 100 is more comparable with Chinese and Korean atlases than the distant Caucasian one (MNI),” she said.




She added that her team is currently focussing on understanding the aging process. “There are many changes that take place in a brain due to advancing age, with the most typical one being atrophy, shrinking of structures,” She also added that this will help in diagnosing dementia or Alzheimers as they are associated with atrophy of the hippocampus.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...s-reveals-study/articleshowprint/71798234.cms

Add to the already:

Small Minds and Small Lullees, we have s full house.....

 

[bluesky]

How did that mission go?
Their greatest claim to fame is that they can do the work for cheap.... well when you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

It is not about the failure, it is about the effort. Once failed does not mean also a future failure. The issue is here your Science Minister was celebrating because he has a pea-size brain to understand that it was not his own country's success. Why do not you guys are unable to realize this small thing that failure is the Mother of Success? Moreover, Space is not Kashmir.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

So it is confirmed scientifically that Indians have peanut size brain.Which is the main reason of low IQ as well.

 

[Nilgiri]

South India runs on steroids for one and one group only---Brahmins...In Tamil Nadu 98 percent of the population needs 70 percent reservation just to compete against 2 percent Brahmins....14 out of the 17 chief scientists in India's original nuclear tests were Tamil Brahmins...Anyways I have said what is needed to be said and one with this thread

LOL, so going by your logic the bhaiyya expanse of "larger brain volume colour code stronk map"

A) UP and Bihar have a paucity of Brahmins to not deal with their crap situation there?

B) What's the brahmin situation in Kerala and south india in general? (why restrict to TN?)

C) Been paying attention to any of the anti-brahmin movement that has totally changed the govt hierarcy in last cpl generations in TN?....but also coincided with the social development (as much as correlation is not causation)?

D) There is some massive brahmin % in the emigrant populations in west? Or there is lot of baniya and others too?

You just want to keep proceeding down your rabbit hole lol.

Its clear you don't respond to any of the other points I bring up for a clear reason....esp given there are plenty of Indonesians and Vietnamese for you to ask firsthand in this forum.

Either you are just that stupid, or you know better but you prefer living in denial. Either way maybe you should get your theory and evidence about the "brain RPMzzzz wheeeeeeeeee" published and peer reviewed lol. See how far you get.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Delightful output. Balanced, structured and driving towards a result.

With an average growth rate of 5% and projected population growth rate... yes... about 2.5-3 decades are needed for the middle income status. You are correct. Round about where the Chinese are now.

My inquiry was more about techno-social developments and societal adaptions/absorption of this Paradigm... Anyhow, if you left it out.. you left it out.

Benchmarking with Japanese is interesting. Any particular reason? And where do you stand compared to Japan today? %Gap?

Spirituality and Conciousness. Then what is Concisousness?

Is it possible that Language provides an insight?

Architecture is, perhaps, more concise measure of the subconcious. What do you think?

What is apparant... a glaring in the face FACT... that the world we all live in is NOT of our own creation... hence, the obvious hanging on to the past for some sense of identity... SmartPhones taking even that away.... sad.

Momentum of History is driven by what?

Yes, Techo-conceptual BlackSwan did occur and it created the world we live in... and it is still living off that Momentum.

However, what is more interesting, from a study point of view, is why it occured there?

The LeftBrainWorld has quantified Love... with its inevitable consequences... again Language provide clues.

In essence we are entering a Flux state and current NationStateFramework is leading us to that massive conflict. EU is too early to call as successful evolution...

Kindly, map the LeftBrainThrust/Evolution and the destruction of RightBrainWorld... for last 500 years... every continent... WW1/WW2 to today... non-stop KillingFields... so, yeah, as you correctly identified, Collapse of the LeftBrainWorld would be the result of this Momentum.

Conciousness and Momentum of History....

What is Momentum of History?

What is Conciousness?

Can Spirituality be a UniversalFrameWork ... a Principle independent of BeliefSystems? A MathematicalEquation if you will?

But then, perhaps, a fundamental question might be What is Human?

Everything regarding Japan:

Benchmarking with Japan because Japan was the only race who realized the need to be completely aligned with Reality and Rationality before being beaten to a pulp by White Europeans. Every other race failed in that.Every race suffered complete and utter humiliation at the hands of the white man before being dragged kicking and screaming into modernity.(And all the fundamental changes in the national psyche that is required for such a change to be effectively implemented)

If Japan is indexed at 100 a country at the level of India should be indexed at 10 and a country at the level of China may be around 40 but probably higher than that..anyways no higher than 50..(in terms of techno-social competence as you put it)

You asked:
"Spirituality and Conciousness. Then what is Concisousness?"

I would say the experience of Being,the state of full experience of all senses plus thoughts, memories and emotions


You asked:

Is it possible that Language provides an insight?

Don't know, one thing I asked myself during my meditation years is whether it is possible to hold a thought non-verbally/without thinking in language. May be you would have an answer to that.

You asked:

"Architecture is, perhaps, more concise measure of the subconcious. What do you think?"

Yes, architecture does concisely capture the civilizational thought of every race,culture and tribe. Even if their written language may not be available to us all the times.




You asked:

Momentum of History and why did the Scientific Revolution first take place in Europe?

Regarding Momentum of History,what creates it,what makes it ebb and flow I would recommend the essay by John Glubb "Fate of Empires and the search for Survival"--------->if you have a few hours to kill




If you have a few years to kill then of course a thorough reading of Ibn Khaldun,Edwards Gibbon,Oswald Spengler,Alfred Toynbee,Jospeh Tainter,the writings on the Wicked Problem is sine qua non. They along with John Glubb have described the rise and fall of empires and civilizations(Spengler and Toynbee tackle civilizations too),better than somebody like me ever could. Frankly that is above my paygrade.

As to why Scientific Revolution took place in the West and no where else, Charles Murray's book Human Accomplishment:The Pursuit of Excellence in the Science and Arts from 800 B.C. to 1950 provides the necessary answers. In short a perfect marriage of Greek Philosophy and Christianity. But the real answer is much more detailed and nuanced.


You Asked:
Can Spirituality be a UniversalFrameWork ... a Principle independent of BeliefSystems? A MathematicalEquation if you will?

I donot have an answer for this. But what I do know is that whatever spirituality does take hold in the human populace,it will be the one that actualizes their ability to survive and flourish in this world rather than the next.


Other Questions AND my response to them:

The dichotomy between the Left Brain and the Right Brain and its effect on history is a novel idea, which I have not pursued though some of my observations dovetail nicely into that framework. As to regarding human, I would take a cautious approach and say Humans are a special kind of ape having the highest level of self awareness among all species on Earth

Have a nice weekend,Sir

 

[Rusty]

It is not about the failure, it is about the effort. Once failed does not mean also a future failure. The issue is here your Science Minister was celebrating because he has a pea-size brain to understand that it was not his country's success. Why do not you guys are unable to realize this small thing that failure is the Mother of Success? Moreover, Space is not Kashmir.

You clearly don't know the extent to our science program.
Did you know we are one of the few countries on earth with a research station on Antarctica?
You clearly didn't

We are only making fun of India because we know all these things are just publicity stunts by Modi.
His people are starving (check out the world hunger index) and modi jee wants to put his name on the moon.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

Cloud computing explained by an Indian.

Cow Dung an effecting shield against Atomic attack by an Indian.
https://www.quora.com/Cow-dung-Radi...-What-are-the-educated-Indians-stance-upon-it

Cow urine has gold by indian scientist.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...old-in-gir-cow-urine/articleshow/52951527.cms

 

[Krptonite]

Probably explains Indian behaviour on PDF.

By that measure, Pakistani posters are two steps ahead of Indians here.

You clearly don't know the extent to our science program.
Did you know we are one of the few countries on earth with a research station on Antarctica?
You clearly didn't

We are only making fun of India because we know all these things are just publicity stunts by Modi.
His people are starving (check out the world hunger index) and modi jee wants to put his name on the moon.

You brought up the the GoP's scientific initiative in Antarctica as its prowess in research while deriding GoI's space faring effort.

By your own measure, we beat you to the Antartic(establishing a research station) by atleast 10 years, how would you explain the foresight of pea brained Indians that preempted your attempt by a decade?

Any research fields where GoP holds comparable superiority as examples will be appreciated. Should be easy considering the abundance of big brains.

 

[Rusty]

By that measure, Pakistani posters are two steps ahead of Indians here.


You brought up the the GoP's scientific initiative in Antarctica as its prowess in research while deriding GoI's space faring effort.

By your own measure, we beat you to the Antartic(establishing a research station) by atleast 10 years, how would you explain the foresight of pea brained Indians that preempted your attempt by a decade?

due to your smaller brain size, you completely missed the point of my statements.
I will use only small words and explicitly explain the point I made.

- India... small penis... no money for food.... Modi only wants stunts like moon mission.

- Pakistan... no spend too much money on stunts... want to feed people (Pakistan ranking went up in world hunger index)... but our brain big enough .......have science station in Antarctica...... unlike Bangladesh.....

I hope the English wasn't too hard for your scientifically proven smaller brain.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

By that measure, Pakistani posters are two steps ahead of Indians here.


You brought up the the GoP's scientific initiative in Antarctica as its prowess in research while deriding GoI's space faring effort.

By your own measure, we beat you to the Antartic(establishing a research station) by atleast 10 years, how would you explain the foresight of pea brained Indians that preempted your attempt by a decade?

Any research fields where GoP holds comparable superiority as examples will be appreciated. Should be easy considering the abundance of big brains.

This is about generalizing, it does not mean 100% Indians have small brains, maybe 2-3 % doesn't fall into that category of small brains...the higher caste Tamil and south Indian Brahmins.

Posting @Juggernaut_is_here words.

South India runs on steroids for one and one group only---Brahmins...In Tamil Nadu 98 percent of the population needs 70 percent reservation just to compete against 2 percent Brahmins....14 out of the 17 chief scientists in India's original nuclear tests were Tamil Brahmins...Anyways I have said what is needed to be said and one with this thread

 

[Krptonite]

due to your smaller brain size, you completely missed the point of my statements.
I will use only small words and explicitly explain the point I made.

- India... small penis... no money for food.... Modi only wants stunts like moon mission.

- Pakistan... no spend too much money on stunts... want to feed people (Pakistan ranking went up in world hunger index)... but our brain big enough .......have science station in Antarctica...... unlike Bangladesh.....

I hope the English wasn't too hard for your scientifically proven smaller brain.

Ill return the favour

1) which scientific field Pakistan>India
2) why India antarctic research station established in 1981 and why pakistan antarctic research station in 1991, why 10 years gap?

This is about generalizing, it does not mean 100% Indians have small brains, maybe 2-3 % doesn't fall into that category of small brains...the higher caste Tamil and south Indian Brahmins.

Posting @Juggernaut_is_here words.

South India runs on steroids for one and one group only---Brahmins...In Tamil Nadu 98 percent of the population needs 70 percent reservation just to compete against 2 percent Brahmins....14 out of the 17 chief scientists in India's original nuclear tests were Tamil Brahmins...Anyways I have said what is needed to be said and one with this thread

I disagree with your assertions sir, grouping humans along spiritual lines does not give you an accurate analysis of the said grouping.

With population sample as large as Indias you're bound to encounter large data sets of every kind.

 

[Rusty]

Ill return the favour

1) which scientific field Pakistan>India
2) why India antarctic research station established in 1981 and why pakistan antarctic research station in 1991, why 10 years gap?

man, you are so retarded that you still did not understand.

You brought in the Indian Antarctica nonsense as a way to change the topic from political stunts like the moon mission to comparing India to Pakistan.

How come you don't compare India and Pakistan in terms of hunger and poverty reduction?
Oh right....

The funny part is that you think you are a big man by comparing a nation of 1.4 billion people to a nation of 200 million. Most people would be humiliated to make such a comparison.. but small brain and all that.

Again, my point being that while Pakistan is not doing political stunts like moon mission, we are feeding our people and reducing poverty.

Only small brained people think failed moon mission >feeding their people .

 

[Krptonite]

man, you are so retarded that you still did not understand.

You brought in the Indian Antarctica nonsense as a way to change the topic from political stunts like the moon mission to comparing India to Pakistan.

How come you don't compare India and Pakistan in terms of hunger and poverty reduction?
Oh right....

The funny part is that you think you are a big man by comparing a nation of 1.4 billion people to a nation of 200 million. Most people would be humiliated to make such a comparison.. but small brain and all that.

Again, my point being that while Pakistan is not doing political stunts like moon mission, we are feeding our people and reducing poverty.

Only small brained people think failed moon mission >feeding their people .

I must correct you sir and refer you to post no #52 wherein you brought up the GoP's expedition to Antartica as a sign of its scientific prowess.

Since the thread topic was about brain size and members discussion about its correlation to intelligence, please forgive me for not taking into consideration how much poverty reduction both the governments have undertaken, a mistake I shall strive to rectify.

My small brain cannot comprehend multiple lines of argument, if you could be kind enough to answer my simplistic questions, I shall be merrily be on my way.

 

[Rusty]

I must correct you sir and refer you to post no #52 wherein you brought up the GoP's expedition to Antartica as a sign of its scientific prowess.

Since the thread topic was about brain size and members discussion about its correlation to intelligence, please forgive me for not taking into consideration how much poverty reduction both the governments have undertaken, a mistake I shall strive to rectify.

My small brain cannot comprehend multiple lines of argument, if you could be kind enough to answer my simplistic questions, I shall be merrily be on my way.

If you had a brain large enough, you would realize that I bought up the Antarctica as an example of our scientific endeavors.

Bluesky implied that Pakistan had no scientific endeavors, I proved him wrong by showing that we did.


You then saw that, saw your small penis size then immediately started a measuring contest..... For like no reason.

So again, while Pakistan does have scientific endeavors, our focus is on poverty reduction and not stunts.

No need to get into a measuring contest.

 

[Chhatrapati]

If you had a brain large enough, you would realize that I bought up the Antarctica as an example of our scientific endeavors.

Bluesky implied that Pakistan had no scientific endeavors, I proved him wrong by showing that we did.


You then saw that, saw your small penis size then immediately started a measuring contest..... For like no reason.

So again, while Pakistan does have scientific endeavors, our focus is on poverty reduction and not stunts.

No need to get into a measuring contest.

What poverty reduction you achieve by Antarctica expedition? Please elaborate that.