Indians being brainwashed into believing Pakistan is the enemy: Naseeruddin Shah

[jamahir]

Piss of to Pakistan then. Bharat is a reality whether your religion likes it or not, and you or your religion accepting/rejecting it will not change the ground reality.

you did not understand what i said... please read again.

 

[doppelganger]

Never heard of him.

I do not hate Hindus. In fact i do not hate anyone.

Neither do I hate Hindus.

Or Muslims.

Or anyone else.

I cannot stand religious bigots though. I detest them with a feral intensity.

 

[Lord ZeN]

But could there be a special slightly higher love for Pakistan, considering them to be the same people, as well as coreligionists?

They aren't same people. Say for example Muslims in Malabar don't share any ethnic/cultural links with Punjabi Muslims of Pakistan. And they just might feel closer to Srilankan Muslims than to Pak- Punjabi Muslims. Similar thing can be said about W.Bengali Muslims w.r.t BD Muslims. And i'm talking about normal sane Muslims not the extremist version from their fellow co-religionists.

 

[doppelganger]

Thank you for being honest.

I don't know why you thanked me. I was not being remotely complimentary.

 

[Levina]

, there was a very disturbing instance of a Pakistani artiste’s work being destroyed in Ahmedabad. But they welcome us in Pakistan with open arms.”

He's forgetting that we 've welcomed the likes of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Atif Aslam, Rahet Fateh Ali khan and so many more. I can give dozens of examples.

ndians are being brainwashed into believing Pakistan to be the enemy country without being aware of the historical background

Nope Indians 're not being brainwashed but Pakistanis definitely 're. We dont read distorted version of history, but they do. India right now has 100's of other problems and Pakistan is just one of 'em.
Now I hope nobody assumes that muslims in India love Pakistan...for they don't!

 

[doppelganger]

how very convenient of u?
yes lets discuss if every Indian muslim is a Pakistan sympathiser or not,,,becoz Naseeruddin shah made some statement to appease his Pakistani fans,,,,,ummah brothrhood rt?

It was a valid question. One most Hindus have at the back of their heads.

I did not know you were a Muslim. Sorry for having you on the wrong line.

 

[jamahir]

and his voice is just amazing

i have been told, a few times, if i may be so humble, that my manner of speech and general mannerism resembles his.

 

[doppelganger]

Could it be that every Modi Bhakt has a large part that is a moron? I'm not talking hating but being indifferent, but actual moronicness.

Was that funny?

Did you miss your 800 grammes of cow flesh today?

 

[me_itsme]

sure... i am not saying pakistan army is a socialist revolutionary force... it is of course their responsibility too to delete any hostility.

solutions are there... what have not been there are courageous leaders on both sides to forward those solutions to their own people, much less proposing it to the other side.

as example of solution, you may know of my "kashmir - a definitive solution" thread of the solution thought of by muammar gaddafi, who of course spoke from a neutral and socialist perspective.

Thanks, I will look it up.

 

[I.R.A]

Was that funny?

Did you miss your 800 grammes of cow flesh today?

Any medical reason? Why not 1000 grams?

 

[doppelganger]

Any medical reason? Why not 1000 grams?

That's the daily per capita consumption of beef in Kerala.

Though in retrospect it does sound way high .....

 

[Ind4Ever]

On his return to India after a successful tour to Pakistan, veteran Bollywood actor Naseeruddin Shah expressed regret at the animosity towards Pakistan prevalent in his home country.

Naseeruddin Shah was in Pakistan in February to promote his bookAnd then one day: A Memoir. He also graced the Lahore Literary Festival and conducted a theater workshop at the Karachi Arts Council to a packed audience.

In an interview to entertainment website Bollywood Hungama, Shah said, “It is tragic that often-times performers from Pakistan are prevented from performing in this country. Recently, there was a very disturbing instance of a Pakistani artiste’s work being destroyed in Ahmedabad. But they welcome us in Pakistan with open arms.”

He stressed the need to keep political differences between the two countries aside. “I keep going to Pakistan because I feel it is very important to have a person-to-person contact. We can’t afford to be swayed by all the political rhetoric. Politicians will change colours whenever it suits them. Indians are being brainwashed into believing Pakistan to be the enemy country without being aware of the historical background.”

He further added that Indians need to look beyond the political animosity. “I’d make a very strong appeal for that. And this has nothing whatsoever to with my being Muslim. What can we possibly gain from this form of ragging that we practice against Pakistan? It is a bully’s way of asserting himself. They are next door neighbors.”

Mentioning the love and regard for Indians in Pakistan, the actor said, “The tragedy of the political divide between the two countries is symbolical. It should go. That would never happen until we travel to Pakistan more often and interact with the local people. There is a great deal of curiosity and admiration in Pakistan for what India has achieved.”

He added, “They love me unconditionally in Pakistan. They are nuts about our stars like Salman and Shah Rukh. But I also sense a reverent affection in Pakistan for actors like me, Om Puri and Farooq Sheikh. I feel very special in Pakistan.”

Source Indians being brainwashed into believing Pakistan is the enemy: Naseeruddin Shah - The Express Tribune

Another Adarsh Liberal who got brainwashed by 60+ years of Congress Islamic Propaganda to make standard happy so they won't politically go against India during war with Pakistan . The nehruvian secularism is nothing but a Secular terrorism against People who gave shelters to all those want to escape executions in the name of religion and communalism for over 2000+ years. Indians hate Pakistan not because some politicians said so but because they keep killing Indians across India . people are not fools to belive Pakistan want friendship with India. In which both the countries are not even comparable. Pakistan now has world's largest terrorist country in the world. even more than in Afghanistan or Iraq . All are using Pakistan as there safe house. All nations problems will be faught inside Pakistan terror groups from Arab world's Sunni shia fighting to Afghan Taliban group wars against ISIS. ALL THESE ARE DONE UNDER THE BOARD OF ISI. SO THEY COULD USE MUSLIMS CARD DURING CONFLICT WITH INDIA and use as pproxies. But our RAW will give you all you deserve . Till now we don't get involved in destabilization of Pakistan but it time change the game. Assertive actions should be in place as we speak. Proxies are tools of war They should rebuted with Stranger Proxy asserts. All these Bollywood Khan's are undermining Indian patriot's response. Stronger Hindu Nationalist at the center right thing will be done. Not before end of second term. By them INDIA could had surpassed many records in her economy.

 

[Lord ZeN]

i want a post-religion communist humanity... have i not been saying that for months??

Just one question. Do you believe in any religion ? If so what is it ... Is it Islam ? From all your posts i got the feeling that are you are an over vehement supporter of one particular religion and want it's imposition with socialism all over the world to create so called "world harmony".

 

[Bang Galore]

thanks for the link bro,...

if naseerudin shah ever try to learn about the india pak relation, then he won't have tell that. this man must ask his elder brother Lt. General Zameerud-din Shah (Retd.) PVSM, SM, VSM, about the propaganda force his brother to fight for his country.

My brother Zameer by Naseeruddin Shah (an article from a few years ago)
Naseeruddin Shah recounts growing up with our recently-appointed deputy army chief, Gen Zameeruddin Shah
(As told to Piali Banerjee of Mumbai Mirror)


It's unfair that every news report which talked about Zameeruddin Shah becoming deputy army chief, mentioned that he's my brother. But I guess life is unfair. My name is attached to his ('by the way') all the time. However, I don't think he minds. In fact, he once wrote an article in a fauji magazine where he mentioned six questions he is asked most often about me. The most popular among them is, 'Is Naseeruddin Shah your real brother?' “Zameer is two years elder to me. Since my mother was very unwell when he was born, he was sent to live in our village, Sardhana, near Meerut, and was brought up by an aunt of ours. He came to live with us only when he was around four years old, and I was two. It took me a while to get used to Zameer after he came from the village. He was very different from my eldest brother, Zaheer, and me. For instance, he couldn't speak English, and he had some different habits. He was also still very attached to our aunt in Sardhana “Then, when I was 5 and Zameer, 7, we both were sent to boarding school, St Joseph's School, in Nainital. In school, of course, he turned out to be a big hero, and I, an idiot. He was tall, good-looking, athletic, a boxing champ. And he even had a girlfriend in from St Mary's School. I envied him this like hell! Meanwhile, I failed in my ninth standard and left this school to join another.

“In school we didn't get together much because it wasn't cool for a senior to hang out with a junior. But Zaheer, Zameer and I bonded during the holidays. That's when we'd play cricket, learn to swim, and learn to ride a bicycle. Of course, Zameer managed to learn everything first. We had huge fights too; we kicked and punched and hit each other over usual things like who'd bat first.“Then Zameer went to NDA (the National Defense Academy in Pune) and changed completely as a person. He got rid of his wild, colorful ways and straightened out. He almost became austere in his ways, which he still is today. Today, he only has what he needs, there are no luxuries in his life. “I still remember the day when Zameer came home in his cadet's uniform. I was so inspired the moment I saw him get off the train. He was actually saluted by the policeman at the station who wouldn't even let me in! And although I knew that I wouldn't be a soldier, the idea actually appealed to me for a couple of days after that. (I had gone through NCC camps and I knew that getting up at 5 am on a winter morning to wear a starched uniform wasn't my scene.)

“But the change in Zameer, changed, or rather straightened out, my life too. I was really inspired by the determination with which he quit his old habits and thinking. And I figured that if I focused in the same way on my acting, I could make a serious career of it too. His being a good soldier inspired me to be a good actor.
“In fact, I don't know whether I'd have been an actor if it hadn't been for my brothers. Were it not for the two of them, I'd have probably lost faith in myself. They were the only people in the world I could talk to about my acting aspirations. They were the only ones who listened to me, and didn't laugh at me. (Today, they do watch most of my films and, I believe, are proud of me.)

“Soon after his graduation from NDA, Zameer went away to fight in the Longewala battle in the 1971 war. And that's a period in his life that's more or less blank for me. I was scared, of course, at that time, but I was more interested in knowing all the details about what was going on at the warfront. Meanwhile, my parents reacted in their own ways. My dad had a ball worrying, my mother retreated into prayer. Even now, Zameer never talks about those war days. If I ask him questions, he only answers in monosyllables, so now I've learned to leave him alone. They must be his private memories, which he'll talk about whenever he's ready.
“So, I guess, we're close in a way, but not so close in other ways. We don't meet often, but when we do, we pick up from where we left off. Since neither Zameer nor I are too fond of talking, we communicate in other ways, like playing tennis, or going riding together…

“Zameer follows a typical military discipline. Even on holidays, he is almost always erect, and maintains his regular routine. Yeah, he can be rather funny when he wants to be but nowadays, as a general, he is almost always surrounded by people and does have an image to live up to. “Right now, of course, he has a good life. A big house, plenty of staff… In fact, I've got to see plenty of interesting places, where I wouldn't otherwise have gone, because of his postings. However, what's interesting is that Zameer is very aware of what a general's life is, after retirement. He has seen his seniors go through it, and is well-prepared. In that sense, he is a true realist.”

 

[jamahir]

I don't know why you thanked me. I was not being remotely complimentary.

i thanked you for being honest about my honesty.