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ISLAMABAD - A Pakistani soldier was martyred and another injured in a gunfight erupting after Indian troops crossed into Pakistani territory and attacked a checkpost in Bagh area of Azad Kashmir on Sunday.But Indian military denied its soldiers had attacked Pakistani position, and instead accused Pakistani troops of violating the Line of Control (LoC), an internationally recognised line separating Indian and Pakistani parts of Kashmir patrolled by troops from both countries.The checkpost skirmish was followed by heavy exchange of fire across the volatile border heightening tensions between the nuclear neighbours after a consider period of calm and rapprochement.A spokesman of Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) said the Indian soldiers violated the LoC early in the day by crossing into the Haji Pir sector, just about 80 kilometres north of capital Islamabad. They “physically raided” Sawan Patra checkpost and critically injured two Pakistani soldiers, one of whom - Naik Muhammad Aslam - succumbed to his wounds later, he added.The spokesman in his statement said, “Pakistan army troops effectively responded and repulsed the attack.” He said the Indian soldiers fled back while leaving behind a gun and a dagger when Pakistani troops retaliated against their attack. The two sides then exchanged fire across the border, he added.Indian army spokesman Colonel Jagadish Dahiya said Indian troops had not crossed the LoC, according to foreign news agency report. “However, there was a ceasefire violation by Pakistan. Our troops retaliated by firing,” he said. Dahiya added that they did not suffer any casualties or injuries.Another spokesman for the Indian army Colonel Rajesh Kalia said its post at Churuda, 100 km (62 miles) northwest of major city Srinagar, came under “unprovoked” heavy mortar and automatic gun fire for about five hours early on Sunday. “We did retaliate,” he said.Yet another Indian army spokesman in Srinagar, the summer capital of the Indian-held Kashmir, came with another twist to the story by accusing the Pakistani military of firing mortar bombs into a village in the Uri district, which faces Haji Pir sector of Pakistan.“At 3:15am today (Sunday) Pakistani troops resorted to heavy mortar firing, targeting a village in Uri sector,” Colonel Brijesh Pandey told a foreign news agency, adding that the homes of some villagers were damaged. “We retaliated with small arms and the exchange continued for over an hour,” he said.The two countries have been slowly repairing relations in recent months. In November, India executed a Pakistani man who it said was the last surviving perpetrator of the Mumbai attack. Last month the two countries signed a deal designed to ease visa restrictions for some citizens to travel between the two countries.And this conflagration comes days after Pakistan Army published its new ‘Army Doctrine’ acknowledging militants at home as the gravest danger to state instead of India, which traditionally has been the ‘enemy number one’. Obviously, this new doctrine was based on the belief that rapprochement with India had gained such strength that it could thin its troop presence on the eastern border to shift the soldiers to north-western border with Afghanistan to crush the Taliban and their associates there.The entrenched tensions between the two countries also extend to Afghanistan, where India has been giving military and economic aid – viewed by Pakistan an attempt to lessen its influence. Also, some US officials had previously been saying that Pakistan was unwilling to move against some factions of militants in its tribal belt because it’s security forces would prefer to be able to use them to counter Indian influence in Afghanistan after most foreign combat troops have pulled out by the end of 2014.The two countries share many similarities in language and culture, but most of Pakistani citizens as well as Kashmiris are Muslim while India is a Hindu majority state. It is this difference which led to creation of a separate Muslim state, Pakistan. Therefore, Kashmir and the human rights abuses committed there by Indian troops, is a politically explosive issue in Pakistan.Muslim-majority Kashmir is a Himalayan region which India and Pakistan both claim in full but rule in part. Month after the creation of Pakistan and present India state when British left subcontinent in August 1947, India seized Kashmir by force violating the principal of partition according to which Kashmiris had to decide about their future.Pakistani troops and armed tribal Muslims from north-western territories waged an armed struggle to liberate their Kashmiri brethren that resulted into creation of Azad Kashmir — which is a self-governing state provided protection and support by Pakistan. The two countries later fought two wars, in 1965 and 1971 but later established the LoC to restore peace.But occasional violations of this de facto border continued and the last round of major conflagration was ended by a 2003 ceasefire. However, infrequent but relatively small-scale violations persist.

Indian troops stage cross-border raid | The Nation
 
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the indians were upset at losing in cricket so they decided to take their anger out on the pakistani post.
@fatman17, if it's sarcasm it's in very bad taste. Inviting lot of trolling. I'm sure you can do much better than this.
@WebMaster- Why do we need multiple thread on same subject? Can you close this thread?
 
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Pakistani soldiers should not do firing on Indian posts to support the infiltration of Ji-hadi scum into Kashmir, and I am sure the LOC will be much more peaceful in the future. But if you do insist on waging a terrorist war on India, these things will happen on both sides from time to time as a cost for your wrongdoings...

the indians were upset at losing in cricket so they decided to take their anger out on the pakistani post.

Quite the opposite, we were just celebrating with firing guns for our 3rd ODI victory :partay:
 
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the indians were upset at losing in cricket so they decided to take their anger out on the pakistani post.

Sir, don't mind. Just asking.

Are you a fat 17 year old boy.. I read your handle and got curious. Also since this thread is not gonna go anywhere, we can have some fun. What say.
 
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the indians were upset at losing in cricket so they decided to take their anger out on the pakistani post.

Of course not...I think India in 2012 has grown up....I am sure like me...most of my fellow Indian people really enjoyed the cricket played by Team Pakistan...It is worth prasing the effort of your cricket team the way they have performed inspite of being in a very difficult situation since last 4-5 year...

Now coming to the topic...if you guys are really would like to fight for the border incident then carry on...But trust me....in the border no one is a sane...it is just a matter of any day which side is falling apart...Today it is Pakistan soldier and tomorrow it may be Indian one...So rather than just trying to fight with this issue...let us condemn it irrespective of who has done it and who has lost the live....Then only we can aspire for a lasting peace....
 
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Of course not...I think India in 2012 has grown up....I am sure like me...most of my fellow Indian people really enjoyed the cricket played by Team Pakistan...It is worth prasing the effort of your cricket team the way they have performed inspite of being in a very difficult situation since last 4-5 year...

Now coming to the topic...if you guys are really would like to fight for the border incident then carry on...But trust me....in the border no one is a sane...it is just a matter of any day which side is falling apart...Today it is Pakistan soldier and tomorrow it may be Indian one...So rather than just trying to fight with this issue...let us condemn it irrespective of who has done it and who has lost the live....Then only we can aspire for a lasting peace....

Why we Indian should condemn this incident in the first place ?:no: they are sending militants in side our territory and providing them covering fire. and its their daily course like lunch and dinner, many of our brave soldiers get martyred on monthly basis. Now when we retaliated and they bore the brunt , you are saying that we should condemn it ? aapne ellection ladnaa hai wahaa jakar ? they should first stop infiltration and cover fire to militant to get any sympathy from us.
 
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Why we Indian should condemn this incident in the first place ?:no: they are sending militants in side our territory and providing them covering fire. and its their daily course like lunch and dinner, many of our brave soldiers get martyred on monthly basis. Now when we retaliated and they bore the brunt , you are saying that we should condemn it ? aapne ellection ladnaa hai wahaa jakar ? they should first stop infiltration and cover fire to militant to get sympathy from us.

+100.

Why should India be apologetic ? Pakistan started the mortar firing..Indian jawans retaliated and took one score. End of story.
 
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Of course not...I think India in 2012 has grown up....I am sure like me...most of my fellow Indian people really enjoyed the cricket played by Team Pakistan...It is worth prasing the effort of your cricket team the way they have performed inspite of being in a very difficult situation since last 4-5 year...

Now coming to the topic...if you guys are really would like to fight for the border incident then carry on...But trust me....in the border no one is a sane...it is just a matter of any day which side is falling apart...Today it is Pakistan soldier and tomorrow it may be Indian one...So rather than just trying to fight with this issue...let us condemn it irrespective of who has done it and who has lost the live....Then only we can aspire for a lasting peace....

the issue is Indians feel sorry for their dead and celeberate others' . this incident given us all moral rights to pisss on every dead soldier from India next time.

what you say ?
 
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the issue is Indians feel sorry for their dead and celeberate others' . this incident given us all moral rights to pisss on every dead soldier from India next time.

what you say ?


That's absolutely your call.. But you must remember that your soldiers are dying in a much larger numbers everyday. So you may not find the vindication and peace you want by doing what you said, because if Indian members start reciprocating, it will create a huge amount of bad blood

And I have not seen any one celebrating the death of this soldier except in response to some insane posts from the Pakistani side.
 
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I think the raid was a portent of things to come. The Indian Army is a disciplined fighting force. It simply means the civilian leadership is fast losing patience with Pakistan. Such a call would not have been knee jerk or taken lightly.

With Pakistan being shelled and attacked by all its immediate neighbors, India, Iran, and Afghanistan, maybe its time for someone somewhere to wake up in Pakistan and look at where they are heading.
 
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