Indian surgical strikes: PAF strategy prevented India

[Cynic Waheed]

and you said you not indian?
I nearly believed you

haha.. so did I! Pathetic attention seeking device...

 

[deckingraj]

seems like the theory is slowly being accepted by the west and hence India is being made to F off from Afghanistan now!

MAy be this theory has some truth in it and that's why it is being accpted...Anyways let me share my thought on other comments...

Also please don't confuse the Taliban in Afghanistan with the Taliban in Pakistan. They are 2 separate entities.

Ummm this is not how we look at them....They are all bloody terrorists and nothing else...Secondly can you please tell me why US drones are targetting Taliban in Pakistan(TTP) as well if they are not a threat to Nato interests???...Every time ISI cannot provide them wrong information(one of the reason given behind killing of TTP chief)... Are they(Nato) helping you guys in war on terror or is it the other way around???? Please understand all these organizations may have different names but they have similar agenda's which bring them close enough to mingle....If you look from that perspective LET has nothing to do with Global JIhad and only care about Kashmir..but don't you think this would be an uderstatement(read wrong) or for that matter Taliban with Al-Qaeda...

Yes GOP struck a peace deal with the Pakistani Taliban in order to get them in some sort of reconciliation, which is precisely what the west is trying to do in Afghanistan as I write! They messed up and lost in the end. Their loss! But this deal exposed the true intentions of TTP which is why the whole nation backs the army now.

Slight difference....west is trying to have a peace deal with people while they are in operating in some one else land which they want to leave as soon as they can....Having said it i see no wrong in having peace deals with people if they choose to leave arms and comes to talking table...There is simply nothing wrong with it...However i am against letting them run a parallel government and that too which involves rules belonging to 10 centuary....which i guess SWAT deal did allow(Please correct me if i am wrong here)

Hmmm so U are not indian, Then care to answer my query regarding the NATO supply route?

Heck i have no clue so i am surely an India

Also, where in India have you been visiting? Ever visited areas controlled by Naxalites and Moaists? No, like I thought! If you visit there next time you wouldn't find much difference between Pakistani Taliban and those terrorists! At least we are confronting these maniacs unlike the GOI which is sitting on its arse and beating the drum of ' PAK SPONSORED TERRORISTS'

Are you comparing Taliban with Moists??? Heck you lost your credibility right there....Anyways if possible please do read a bit more on this topic and change your stance or care to elaborate why you think Moists and Taliban are alike....

Lastly .. like I said earliar India just like you can dream about surgical strikes but can not do it! PAF is not sleeping...

And we know that...You might be surprised but Indians have lot of respect fot PAF...They have great pilots and are very good at their job...Though i don't wish any such moment arise when GOI has no other option but to go for such strikes, i am little doubtful you would be able to prevent them if GOI give a GO....because one big thing that comes with surgical strikes is the element of surprise...In the same way i have little doubt that GOP will retaliate...How potent would be the retaliation only time will tell...

 

[deckingraj]

There is nothing to gain. India already has enough troubles within its borders and so does Pakistan. Our war of words only benefits these terrorists. We should cooperate on all issues including terrorism. There is a lot to gain if we stand together and perhaps everything to lose if we fight. Then why go down that road?

India is evolving as a regional power and enjoys to flex its muscles. However they should not forget that Pakistan may be smaller in size and economy but has the potential to send India back to stone age. And vice versa. If the consequences are this severe then why even think about fighting?!

Such remarks are unfortunate.....When india is attacked by non-state actors from Pakistan and the level of attack as serious as Mumbai(simply brought the economic capital of India to a standstill) and still India did not opt for any military option...When your Army simply crossed the LOC and occupied our heights India still did not chose to take the enemy on by easy way(opening a new front) and chose to fight a difficult battle only to get her Land back you are still saying India enjoys to flex her muscle???

Are you one of those fan boys who think India lack spine??? Pity there are only few intellect who knows that like China, India do not want to lose all the hard work that has been done in past two decades and want to keep growing...So she is not Flexing Her Muscle but in fact keeping restraint on the very provocative actions from her western neighbour....

 

[Cynic Waheed]

MAy be this theory has some truth in it and that's why it is being accpted...Anyways let me share my thought on other comments...

Thanks for accepting that!

Ummm this is not how we look at them....They are all bloody terrorists and nothing else...Secondly can you please tell me why US drones are targetting Taliban in Pakistan(TTP) as well if they are not a threat to Nato interests???...Every time ISI cannot provide them wrong information(one of the reason given behind killing of TTP chief)... Are they(Nato) helping you guys in war on terror or is it the other way around???? Please understand all these organizations may have different names but they have similar agenda's which bring them close enough to mingle....If you look from that perspective LET has nothing to do with Global JIhad and only care about Kashmir..but don't you think this would be an uderstatement(read wrong) or for that matter Taliban with Al-Qaeda...

They are terrorists undoubtedly. US is killing them because Pak has increased its efforts to clamp down on the threats of NATO and US and hence you would get the much needed help from NATO and US to eliminate our threats. So its a give and take from where I see it. We help them, they help us. So we are both helping each other, simple. Regarding LET or other splinter groups, from what I understand and please correct me if I am wrong, you may be suggesting that they can collude with Taliban and Al-Qaeda etc. For now we are actively eliminating Al-Qaeda, if we cut that main source these smaller groups will not be able to function properly.

Slight difference....west is trying to have a peace deal with people while they are in operating in some one else land which they want to leave as soon as they can....Having said it i see no wrong in having peace deals with people if they choose to leave arms and comes to talking table...There is simply nothing wrong with it...However i am against letting them run a parallel government and that too which involves rules belonging to 10 centuary....which i guess SWAT deal did allow(Please correct me if i am wrong here)

You are saying exactly what I said but in a different way. Pakistan also struck peace deal in the hope of them disarming. And it was not that Pakistan government let them run a parallel government, but it was a case of allowing them a judicial system that was based purely on Sharia. As a muslim country we dont see any problems with that. But we realised that in the veil of judicial system these people had other ambitions in mind. and hence the Army was called into action.

Heck i have no clue so i am surely an India

It wasn't aimed at you mate.

Are you comparing Taliban with Moists??? Heck you lost your credibility right there....Anyways if possible please do read a bit more on this topic and change your stance or care to elaborate why you think Moists and Taliban are alike....

Would you disagree with me if I said both are terrorists? if your answer in No then you can understand my claim of this proximity.

And we know that...You might be surprised but Indians have lot of respect fot PAF...They have great pilots and are very good at their job...Though i don't wish any such moment arise when GOI has no other option but to go for such strikes, i am little doubtful you would be able to prevent them if GOI give a GO....because one big thing that comes with surgical strikes is the element of surprise...In the same way i have little doubt that GOP will retaliate...How potent would be the retaliation only time will tell...

Thanks for the praises you showered on PAF. If you guys have such respect for PAF then you should also understand that even if this happens in a surprise move, do you think PAF will just sit on its arse and not retaliate? Especially knowing their track record and abilities! And just like you mate, I hope that our great countries never come to that brink. We should embrace each others as friends and work together on our differences peacefully!

later

 

[Cynic Waheed]

Such remarks are unfortunate.....When india is attacked by non-state actors from Pakistan and the level of attack as serious as Mumbai(simply brought the economic capital of India to a standstill) and still India did not opt for any military option...When your Army simply crossed the LOC and occupied our heights India still did not chose to take the enemy on by easy way(opening a new front) and chose to fight a difficult battle only to get her Land back you are still saying India enjoys to flex her muscle???

Are you one of those fan boys who think India lack spine??? Pity there are only few intellect who knows that like China, India do not want to lose all the hard work that has been done in past two decades and want to keep growing...So she is not Flexing Her Muscle but in fact keeping restraint on the very provocative actions from her western neighbour....

When Samjhota Express was bombed was it Indian state actors involved? No right. Same is the case with Mumbai attacks. We did not send them to bomb you.

Regarding the remainder of your speech here.. I hope you stay peaceful and keep growing! But what about providing assistance to TTP and helping Baloch insurgents.. Isn't that flexing your muscles and making an innocent (..oh.. I don't know anything about it) face at the same time? Hypocrisy is one word to describe it. Although Mumbai was not orchestrated by GOP but I hope it gave you a taste of what we go through because of your hypocrisy!

Adios mate and please drink a glass of water before you reply this time, I sense tempers flaring....

 

[Arik]

NO. I/we dont admit because there are NO terror camps

ok so u r implying that the terrorists who try to sneak into kashmir every now and then r trained in a camp somewhere in mars or venus.Ajmal Kasab received his commando training on pluto.

Remember that after 26/11 the pakistani gov denied that kasab was a Pakistani citizen.It was a Pakistani newschannel (Geo Tv) which revealed that Kasab was indeed a Pakistani.Stop being in a state of denial.Perhaps u could give ur journalism carrer a significant boost by finding out the truth abt the camps.

 

[Arik]

and you said you not indian?
I nearly believed you

I am not here to prove my identity .Think whatever u want to.

 

[Spring Onion]

ok so u r implying that the terrorists who try to sneak into kashmir every now and then r trained in a camp somewhere in mars or venus.Ajmal Kasab received his commando training on pluto.

Sneaking into Kashmir ??? huh how come Citizens of Kashmir need to sneak into their own territory?

They go to one part of Kashmir into other part of their country that is occupied by India.

The only terrorists in Kashmir are Indian armymen.

Remember that after 26/11 the pakistani gov denied that kasab was a Pakistani citizen.It was a Pakistani newschannel (Geo Tv) which revealed that Kasab was indeed a Pakistani.Stop being in a state of denial.

Read Kasab's statments he said he went to India through train and BTW Today his lawyer also proved the rubber dingy was recovered much before the mumbai attack.

Perhaps u could give ur journalism carrer a significant boost by finding out the truth abt the camps.

Perhapes the Indian Govt could establish some credibility by providing the details along with locations of these so-called "42" camps.

 

[Arik]

Sneaking into Kashmir ??? huh how come Citizens of Kashmir need to sneak into their own territory?

They go to one part of Kashmir into other part of their country that is occupied by India.

The only terrorists in Kashmir are Indian armymen.




Read Kasab's statments he said he went to India through train and BTW Today his lawyer also proved the rubber dingy was recovered much before the mumbai attack.





Perhapes the Indian Govt could establish some credibility by providing the details along with locations of these so-called "42" camps.

Terrorists in Kashmir are not only Kashmiris,but many afghans and a few arabs r also present besides ofcourse the Pakistanis.Anyway the identity is not an issue here.They get trained in Pakistan and r sent to India for Jihad is the main issue.
What would India do by providing the exact location of th terror camps??Pakistan is not going to carry out a surgical strike in its own area.

 

[Spring Onion]

Terrorists in Kashmir are not only Kashmiris,but many afghans and a few arabs r also present besides ofcourse the Pakistanis.Anyway the identity is not an issue here.They get trained in Pakistan and r sent to India for Jihad is the main issue.

This is the biggest lie on earth.

I would sincerly advice you not to advocate such notion because your false propagand if got into reality India will be in big big trouble.

I am saying this because NO Afghan and NO Arab has ever fought in Indian Occupied Kashmir.

What would India do by providing the exact location of th terror camps??Pakistan is not going to carry out a surgical strike in its own area.

It doesnt matter if Pakistan is going to do anything or not.

What matters is credibiility of India when it claims about presence of "42 camps"


If you have proof then present it to the world otherwise dont come up with fiction and cartoonic stories of mickey mouse

 

[Arik]

This is the biggest lie on earth.

I would sincerly advice you not to advocate such notion because your false propagand if got into reality India will be in big big trouble.

I am saying this because NO Afghan and NO Arab has ever fought in Indian Occupied Kashmir.



It doesnt matter if Pakistan is going to do anything or not.

What matters is credibiility of India when it claims about presence of "42 camps"


If you have proof then present it to the world otherwise dont come up with fiction and cartoonic stories of mickey mouse

david coleman headly has confessed that he received his training in atleat 5 camps in Pakistan.

 

[Arik]

http://twocircles.net/.../108_foreign_terrorists_held_kashmir_are_indian_jails.html - Cached

This is the biggest lie on earth.

I would sincerly advice you not to advocate such notion because your false propagand if got into reality India will be in big big trouble.

I am saying this because NO Afghan and NO Arab has ever fought in Indian Occupied Kashmir.



It doesnt matter if Pakistan is going to do anything or not.

What matters is credibiility of India when it claims about presence of "42 camps"


If you have proof then present it to the world otherwise dont come up with fiction and cartoonic stories of mickey mouse

Crime/TerrorismIndia News
By IANS,

Srinagar : There are 108 foreign militants - 97 Pakistanis, nine Afghans and one each from Saudi Arabia and Bangladesh - lodged in various Indian jails after their arrest in Jammu and Kashmir on terrorism related charges, according to the state's home department.

Contradictory to separatist leaders' claims that 6,200 people arrested on militancy related charges are in prisons within and outside Jammu and Kashmir, the government says that a total of 2,384 people are imprisoned in the state for terror charges while 65 are jailed outside the state for similar reasons.

"At present 2,449 persons (arrested in Jammu and Kashmir) are lodged in different jails within as well as outside the state," according to an official document of the home department.

The prisoners facing trial in cases in Jammu and Kashmir are normally lodged in state prisons but some foreign nationals detained under the Public Safety Act (PSA) are in jails outside the state. Cases of the foreign suspected militants jailed outside have been transferred to courts outside the state "for speedy trial", according to an official of the home department.

The official said that there are 15 local prisoners in Jammu and Kashmir whose detention orders have been quashed but they have not been released because they are "subsequently facing trials in (other) substantive cases".

However, the official figures don't include separatist politicians, many of who are also detained under the PSA, which entails two-year detention without any prosecution.

Refuting the government figures, a Hurriyat Conference spokesman said the total number of "illegally detained Kashmiris is over 6,200".

The spokesman said the "inaccuracy of the authorities' statement is evident by the fact that the list of prisoners did not include the names of Syed Ali Gilani and Shabir Shah" - the two separatist leaders jailed for instigating agitational politics and provoking people to pelt stones at public properties

http://twocircles.net/.../108_foreign_terrorists_held_kashmir_are_indian_jails.html - Cached

 

[Bull]

NO. I/we dont admit because there are NO terror camps

Rubbish. Then what are they Army camps.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Rubbish. Then what are they Army camps.

Who knows - maybe they are clumps of trees.

Just because the GoI/IA claims something does not automatically make it true.

 

[Bull]

This is the biggest lie on earth.

I would sincerly advice you not to advocate such notion because your false propagand if got into reality India will be in big big trouble.

I am saying this because NO Afghan and NO Arab has ever fought in Indian Occupied Kashmir.

Another peice of rubbish

There are around 22 terror camps in Afghan targeting kashmir and around 900 foreign terrorists opeating in kashmir who hail from B'desh, Yemen, Afghan and then ofcourse pakistanis.

It doesnt matter if Pakistan is going to do anything or not.

What matters is credibiility of India when it claims about presence of "42 camps"


If you have proof then present it to the world otherwise dont come up with fiction and cartoonic stories of mickey mouse

Proof, you still want proof. i wonder whom the predator drones are bombing to hell.