Indian Special Forces

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

93 rd Infantry Brigade, so it has a mix of regt including Dogra.

I was referring to 29th sept cross loc raid.

 

[Jamwal's]

I was referring to 29th sept cross loc raid.

That's beyond classified to a guy like me. But from what i heard there were no Ghataks only Para SF divided in small fire teams.

I don't believe in some fanboy stories of Ghataks involved in the raid.

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@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR

These 2 are civilians local porters who are employed on both sides to carry heavy equipments.

This time they were called to clear the debris and carry the dead bodies but they were so scare to recover the bodies for hour that they had to put white flag.

This proves our domination over LOC.



How many times you see Indian BSF or Indian civilian put white flag to stop rangers firing in Jammu Border or Kashmir LOC ?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

That's beyond classified to a guy like me. But from what i heard there were no Ghataks only Para SF divided in small fire teams.

I don't believe in some fanboy stories of Ghataks involved in the raid.

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@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR

These 2 are civilians local porters who are employed on both sides to carry heavy equipments.

This time they were called to clear the debris and carry the dead bodies but they were so scare to recover the bodies for hour that they had to put white flag.

This proves our domination over LOC.



How many times you see Indian BSF or Indian civilian put white flag to stop rangers firing in Jammu Border or Kashmir LOC ?

No disrespect to Pak Army but the side which dominates doesn't ever raise the white flag.The claim of 11 Indian kills is bullshit.

Thanks a lot for the info.

 

[Jamwal's]

No disrespect to Pak Army but the side which dominates doesn't ever raise the white flag.The claim of 11 Indian kills is bullshit.

Thanks a lot for the info.

Famous Pak propaganda to assuage the public.


And there is no 7 casualties. Fire assault destroyed 4 posts and each post have at least a section or Platoon size strength. So you can figure the real casualties.

Rumor is that it could be cross border raid from the dreaded "Vengeance Brigade" as called by Las Angeles time way back in 90. Could be Pir Panjal Militia from our side.


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Here is the article from LA times from 1998

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/may/27/news/mn-53885/2
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Kashmir Border Duels, Rhetoric Heat Up
Pakistan: Villagers fear war as India rattles nuclear saber.


May 27, 1998|DEXTER FILKINS | TIMES STAFF WRITER


The Indian soldiers are invisible except for the search beams that leap from the trees at night. Some of the lights are a mere 500 yards from the center of Bandala Seri, easily within range of a modern rifle or machine gun.

Under Fire, Pakistanis Just Huddle Together

Three days ago, Pakistani villagers said, they had to run for their lives when Indian troops opened fire. When the Indians fire into the village at night, the town folk say, residents gather in one hut and huddle together until it ends.

Early Tuesday, the thunder of artillery fire and the crackle of machine guns 30 miles away were clearly audible in Bandala Seri.

Pakistani officials say they do their best to defend villagers but don't have nearly the troops that India does.

Although a few families have fled the border, most have chosen to stay put. "We are Muslims, and we are not afraid of death," said Fazal Karim, who runs a pharmacy in the village.

Last month, in a widely reported incident, 22 villagers were massacred in Bandala Seri by gunmen believed to be from India. The villagers say the gang of a dozen men, all dressed in black, struck in the middle of the night and dropped leaflets to mark the attack.

"Vengeance Brigade," one leaflet said.

"Evil deeds bear evil fruit," said another.

"Ten eyes for one eye, one jaw for a single tooth," said a third.

Blood still stains the walls of several huts.

Villagers Deny Links to Militant Groups

When the Pakistani government accused the Indian government of sponsoring the attack, New Delhi denied any responsibility. Some, including U.S. officials, believe the attack may have come in retaliation for the killing of 26 Indian civilians a week before in the villages of Parankot and Dhakikot.

The villagers in Bandala Seri deny that they have any connection to militant groups or that they have engaged in any attacks on Indians. Karim, the pharmacist, who lost 11 relatives in the massacre, said he would welcome a war with the Indians up on the hill, whether they are armed with nuclear weapons or not. "All the time," Karim said, "I think about revenge."

Folks here express little hope that relations between India and Pakistan, now fraught by nuclear arms, will improve any time soon.

Nizar Ahmed, whose brother, Zufhkar, was wounded in the attack, said the only solution to the problem in Kashmir is a total Indian withdrawal. If the Indians continue to refuse, he said, he doesn't hold out much hope. "In that case," Nizar said, "only atomic weapons will decide our future."

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Famous Pak propaganda to assuage the public.


And there is no 7 casualties. Fire assault destroyed 4 posts and each post have at least a section or Platoon size strength. So you can figure the real casualties.

Rumor is that it could be cross border raid from the dreaded "Vengeance Brigade" as called by Las Angeles time way back in 90. Could be Pir Panjal Militia from our side.


__________________________________________________________________________

Here is the article from LA times from 1998

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/may/27/news/mn-53885/2
________________________________________________________________________



Kashmir Border Duels, Rhetoric Heat Up
Pakistan: Villagers fear war as India rattles nuclear saber.


May 27, 1998|DEXTER FILKINS | TIMES STAFF WRITER


The Indian soldiers are invisible except for the search beams that leap from the trees at night. Some of the lights are a mere 500 yards from the center of Bandala Seri, easily within range of a modern rifle or machine gun.

Under Fire, Pakistanis Just Huddle Together

Three days ago, Pakistani villagers said, they had to run for their lives when Indian troops opened fire. When the Indians fire into the village at night, the town folk say, residents gather in one hut and huddle together until it ends.

Early Tuesday, the thunder of artillery fire and the crackle of machine guns 30 miles away were clearly audible in Bandala Seri.

Pakistani officials say they do their best to defend villagers but don't have nearly the troops that India does.

Although a few families have fled the border, most have chosen to stay put. "We are Muslims, and we are not afraid of death," said Fazal Karim, who runs a pharmacy in the village.

Last month, in a widely reported incident, 22 villagers were massacred in Bandala Seri by gunmen believed to be from India. The villagers say the gang of a dozen men, all dressed in black, struck in the middle of the night and dropped leaflets to mark the attack.

"Vengeance Brigade," one leaflet said.

"Evil deeds bear evil fruit," said another.

"Ten eyes for one eye, one jaw for a single tooth," said a third.

Blood still stains the walls of several huts.

Villagers Deny Links to Militant Groups

When the Pakistani government accused the Indian government of sponsoring the attack, New Delhi denied any responsibility. Some, including U.S. officials, believe the attack may have come in retaliation for the killing of 26 Indian civilians a week before in the villages of Parankot and Dhakikot.

The villagers in Bandala Seri deny that they have any connection to militant groups or that they have engaged in any attacks on Indians. Karim, the pharmacist, who lost 11 relatives in the massacre, said he would welcome a war with the Indians up on the hill, whether they are armed with nuclear weapons or not. "All the time," Karim said, "I think about revenge."

Folks here express little hope that relations between India and Pakistan, now fraught by nuclear arms, will improve any time soon.

Nizar Ahmed, whose brother, Zufhkar, was wounded in the attack, said the only solution to the problem in Kashmir is a total Indian withdrawal. If the Indians continue to refuse, he said, he doesn't hold out much hope. "In that case," Nizar said, "only atomic weapons will decide our future."

I remember this incident.

After we hit them there was no massacre of innocent hindus for a long time.

My family is from that region and i know how it was during that period.These terrorists used to kill innocent hindus.

My cousin who is a teacher and a farmer was given a .303 and some rounds to defend themselves against these freedom fighters till the army comes to their rescue..

 

[Abingdonboy]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=779733405501392

Are these Ghataks of GR or are regulars being trained in PTK now also?

 

[mkb95]

Are these Ghataks of GR or are regulars being trained in PTK now also?

this was from joint indra ex.i dont think we sent any sf so these must be regulars.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Are these Ghataks of GR or are regulars being trained in PTK now also?

Bro even if they are Ghatak its good news as Ghataks keep changing like postings etc so new guys keep coming and old one leave.

 

[Abingdonboy]

this was from joint indra ex.i dont think we sent any sf so these must be regulars.

No doubt they are not SF but I am wondering whether they are the Ghataks or pure regulars, either way good to see such training being imparted, earlier only SFs (and specialist police units) had recieved such close quarter combat training.

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PARA (SF) room intervention training:

Need to get those FAST helmets ASAP.

 

[saumyasupratik]

Barrett M 82 being inducted in BSF apart from SSG 69


Nana Patekar visit in Jammu BSF


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It's the newer M107A1 with the 4 slot muzzle brake seen here sans the monopod. Interestingly it seems they've gone for an after-market bipod. Great addition to the SSG69 and AMR/Vidhwansak 14.5/20 line-up for the BSF.

 

[debspark90]

It's the newer M107A1 with the 4 slot muzzle brake seen here sans the monopod. Interestingly it seems they've gone for an after-market bipod. Great addition to the SSG69 and AMR/Vidhwansak 14.5/20 line-up for the BSF.

Wonder what scope will they use. Don't know if they will they use the ballistic course correction computer used on top. Just like NSG does on it's M98B.

 

[Unknowncommando]

NSG

 

[Aman Depani]

Okay so I have a question about the MARCOS. I have seen a lot of pictures which shows them wearing seal tridents. Well, I live in North Carolina, USA, and a couple of my friends have their parents working at Fort Bragg, and I got to meet a couple of Navy Seals and have a talk with them. I was wondering how do the MARCOS have the Seal Trident? Do the Navy Seals even know about this and are they the ones that provide the trident? Please keep in mind I am in no way doubting the MARCOS ability or their credibility. I'm just curious.

 

[GuardianRED]

Okay so I have a question about the MARCOS. I have seen a lot of pictures which shows them wearing seal tridents. Well, I live in North Carolina, USA, and a couple of my friends have their parents working at Fort Bragg, and I got to meet a couple of Navy Seals and have a talk with them. I was wondering how do the MARCOS have the Seal Trident? Do the Navy Seals even know about this and are they the ones that provide the trident? Please keep in mind I am in no way doubting the MARCOS ability or their credibility. I'm just curious.

if you look into the history on founding of the MARCOS , u will see that the initial operatives/trainer were first trained by the Navy SEALS, and thus it can be assume thereafter few operatives even now can join this course , thus allowing them to wear the Seal Trident

Case and point : Gen VK Singh - He has a ranger tab he wears on his uniform - why? cause he has joined completed that course

 

[Hindustani78]

The drill on 'intervention of rail coaches and countering of terrorist elements' was conducted by the NSG commandos in the wee hours at the Dhaula Kuan station

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...delhi-metro-stations/articleshow/55519092.cms

By PTI | Nov 20, 2016, 01.35 AM IST

NEW DELHI: A special counter-terror unit of NSG commandos today conducted a three-hour-long mock drill at a Delhi Metro station located on the airport express line here.

Officials said the drill on 'intervention of rail coaches and countering of terrorist elements' was conducted by the National Security Guard commandos in the wee hours at the Dhaula Kuan station where the 'black cats' also used their modern weapons and equipment used for neutralising terrorists and rescuing commuters.

The Dhaula Kuan station is an important passenger facility on the sensitive and faster airport express line of the Delhi Metro.

They said the strike team of over 350 commandos also conducted a similar drill on the coaches and depot area around the Dwarka Sector 8 station along with a small team of CISF personnel who secure the Metro network.

"The NSG teams were drawn from the elite counter-terror squad. The federal contingency force keeps doing these mock exercises to keep itself prepared for any contingency and response to a terrorist threat on the Delhi Metro network that carries over 26 lakh people everyday in the national capital area," they said adding the drills lasted for about three hours at each of the locations.