Indian Special Forces

[Kurlang]

NSG COMMANDOS

Any body please shed light on the type of the gun, these guys are holding.

Secondly, It would be appreciated if high resolution pics are upload.

Thanks in advance

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Any body please shed light on the type of the gun, these guys are holding.

Secondly, It would be appreciated if high resolution pics are upload.

Thanks in advance

Google SIG rifles... also in service with Pak SF and police commandos.

 

[Koovie]

Any body please shed light on the type of the gun, these guys are holding.

Secondly, It would be appreciated if high resolution pics are upload.

Thanks in advance

Swiss Sig Sauer rifles and MP 5 K SMGs.

Must have, haven't spotted it since 26/11, the NSG seems to use the SIG-552 in this role now.

So what are they using for long range sniping?

 

[Unknowncommando]

 

[Omega007]

I was actually referring to 6.5 x 47mm Lapua not 6.5 x 39 grendel, which again no doubt is a very good intermediate range round.

Sorry dude,I always seem to mix it up when it come to these two suckers.

 

[imperialmen]

Aren't special forces. Neither are NSG.

 

[bloo]

They now have all of the above (except gatling guns and UAVs with shotguns on them, wtf?)

LOL.
Maybe something like this would be awesome.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Aren't special forces. Neither are NSG.

COBRA personnel are not even suitable for the tag of Commando.I salute them for their sacrifice but partiality is something which doesnt allow me to call anyone Commando.

In India the term Commando is misused.Every one from Kerala Police to J&K Police has commandos.Even if their commandos wont even make through the 1st stage of the Original Commando School of the IA.

In my opinion,Ghataks are true Commandos and Marcos and PARA SF the true SF.

The COBRA get trained in a school which is set up by the Army,which uses the model of CIJWS,which has the structure of CIJWS and in which the regulars of IA are trained but they think they are a Commando.

In the Army after the SF school comes the Commando school and then CIJWS and Battle School.

Now coming to the point of Special Force.The special force is a unit which carries out unconventional warfare and special operations.So NSG should make the cut.They are the last choice left with the Govt.The NSG has a lot of SF operators that too with Amphibious training.So i see no reason to not call it a special force or special unit.

Lt.Gen Katoch of the PARA SF also called them a SF in his book.

 

[Koovie]

COBRA personnel are not even suitable for the tag of Commando.I salute them for their sacrifice but partiality is something which doesnt allow me to call anyone Commando.

In India the term Commando is misused.Every one from Kerala Police to J&K Police has commandos.Even if their commandos wont even make through the 1st stage of the Original Commando School of the IA.

In my opinion,Ghataks are true Commandos and Marcos and PARA SF the true SF.

The COBRA get trained in a school which is set up by the Army,which uses the model of CIJWS,which has the structure of CIJWS and in which the regulars of IA are trained but they think they are a Commando.

In the Army after the SF school comes the Commando school and then CIJWS and Battle School.

Now coming to the point of Special Force.The special force is a unit which carries out unconventional warfare and special operations.So NSG should make the cut.They are the last choice left with the Govt.The NSG has a lot of SF operators that too with Amphibious training.So i see no reason to not call it a special force or special unit.

Lt.Gen Katoch of the PARA SF also called them a SF in his book.

Arent Ghataks more like heavy assault infantry? Like the German stormtroopers??

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Arent Ghataks more like heavy assault infantry? Like the German stormtroopers??

GHATAKs are shock troops but they can also operate in small teams of 6-8 members and carry out special operations.In Kashmir they work undercover(without uniform growing beards) and have been quite successful.

They are trained well and consist of a medic,navigator,weapons specialists and team leader in small teams like in any SF.

Their school aka the Commando school has strict training and PARA guys serve as instructors there.

So,I think only they deserve the tag of "COMMANDO" in India.

 

[imperialmen]

COBRA personnel are not even suitable for the tag of Commando.I salute them for their sacrifice but partiality is something which doesnt allow me to call anyone Commando.

In India the term Commando is misused.Every one from Kerala Police to J&K Police has commandos.Even if their commandos wont even make through the 1st stage of the Original Commando School of the IA.

In my opinion,Ghataks are true Commandos and Marcos and PARA SF the true SF.

The COBRA get trained in a school which is set up by the Army,which uses the model of CIJWS,which has the structure of CIJWS and in which the regulars of IA are trained but they think they are a Commando.

In the Army after the SF school comes the Commando school and then CIJWS and Battle School.

Now coming to the point of Special Force.The special force is a unit which carries out unconventional warfare and special operations.So NSG should make the cut.They are the last choice left with the Govt.The NSG has a lot of SF operators that too with Amphibious training.So i see no reason to not call it a special force or special unit.

Lt.Gen Katoch of the PARA SF also called them a SF in his book.

What about IAF Garuds? Are they SF?

For me, terming NSG as SF is a stretch. Ignoring the component members of their unit, their role seems similar to a very highly trained federal SWAT team who specialize in close-combat, CT and hostage rescue. SF roles would be like operating deep behind enemy lines, disappearing into a populace to gather intel, seek and destroy, infiltrate an enemy unit, recon etc etc.

But then again, we don't have any clear definition of SF.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

What about IAF Garuds? Are they SF?

For me, terming NSG as SF is a stretch. Ignoring the component members of their unit, their role seems similar to a very highly trained federal SWAT team who specialize in close-combat, CT and hostage rescue. SF roles would be like operating deep behind enemy lines, disappearing into a populace to gather intel, seek and destroy, infiltrate an enemy unit, recon etc etc.

But then again, we don't have any clear definition of SF.

Mate,how do you know that NSG wont go behind the enemy lines?gather intel and conduct undercover operations?

The last news for us SF lovers was that PHANTOM Commandos of the NSG are sent to a secret base for further training and these PHANTOMS are the top 1% of the NSG..So what happens when the land in the secret base?..It will be a safe guess to assume that they are trained for highly secret operations which the normal SWAT like NSG wont conduct as the normal NSG is at their bases in the metropolitan cities but they are deployed elsewhere.

Apart from MARCOS and PARA SF i think the Vikas Unit and SG are well trained and are a true SF.

I dont consider GARUDS to be a SF.Their operation objective is to protect their bases,destroy enemy radars and AF bases and rescue pilots who fell behind enemy lines.They are not trained for undercover operations and unconventional warfare.They are NOT amphibious and they still do not have a EOD unit.No units dedicated to mountainous and desert warfare.

They have a long road to travel to reach the milestone of SF IMHO.

 

[Abingdonboy]

SPG at the Beating Retreat ceremony 2015:

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR Modi did it again! Went around waving to the crowds and breaking away from his security cover (to an extent) just as he was meant to get in his car and drive off, they had to flip the entire motorcade around for him. Considering arriving and departing are the most dangerous times for heads of state/protectees, that Modi consistently is breaking his security cordon and moving towards the crowds and that too without giving his security team advance notice is incredibly dangerous.





SPG at the NCC rally 2015:

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

SPG at the Beating Retreat ceremony 2015:

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR Modi did it again! Went around waving to the crowds and breaking away from his security cover (to an extent) just as he was meant to get in his car and drive off, they had to flip the entire motorcade around for him. Considering arriving and departing are the most dangerous times for heads of state/protectees, that Modi consistently is breaking his security cordon and moving towards the crowds and that too without giving his security team advance notice is incredibly dangerous.





SPG at the NCC rally 2015:

He is doing crazy things.I feel he wears a BPJ but if someone takes a head shot then its gonna be bye-bye for him.

Anyways,I was checking the badges worn by the head of the Presidential Body Guard and he was wearing a badge which you get after you have done a course of firing a ATGM and the rest of the badges were common with what a Colonel wears.I also saw Naval and AF officers in the dinner party for President Obama.I do not know what their roles are but the dressing and behavior looked similar to what a ADC would do.

Lastly,the SPG was carrying a new case for the security blanket.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Anyways,I was checking the badges worn by the head of the Presidential Body Guard and he was wearing a badge which you get after you have done a course of firing a ATGM

Well the PBG are a conventional military unit aren't they aside from their ceremonial role so this makes sense. I notice a lot of the PBG are airborne qualified as well.

He is doing crazy things.I feel he wears a BPJ but if someone takes a head shot then its gonna be bye-bye for him.

I get what he is doing and why but I just don't know if it is worth it.