Indian Special Forces

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@Abingdonboy, bro, it is said that NSG is trained and modeled by GSG 9... does NSG have any cooperation with other french CT/SF like GIGN or RAID??... some yeas ago there was a report that NSG will be trained by FBI and other top counter-terror units,, any info on that?



over all control is done by IPS.. it is same for NSG.
how much did they improved after 26/11??...mmm... only HM can say that.

GSG 9 is not a French unit.It is German.Why do you relate it to French units in your post?

SWAT team leader is a Inspector but the entire unit is headed by a IPS officer..hope that clears something.

Regarding the improvement post 26/11 a lot has been changed.NSG got more funds and its entire training module has been modified post Mumbai attacks.

Is Tavor is only used by S.F Or regular infantry will use it in future replacing the insas?

For the Infantry the trials would be conducted.

Basically,the Army and AF top brass is full of morons and nothing can be confirmed for sure.

We need to outsource some AF and Army top positions to the Navy to get everything done quickly...and indigenously.

 

[Ranndhawa]

GSG 9 is not a French unit.It is German.Why do you relate it to French units in your post?

SWAT team leader is a Inspector but the entire unit is headed by a IPS officer..hope that clears something.

Regarding the improvement post 26/11 a lot has been changed.NSG got more funds and its entire training module has been modified post Mumbai attacks.



For the Infantry the trials would be conducted.

Basically,the Army and AF top brass is full of morons and nothing can be confirmed for sure.

We need to outsource some AF and Army top positions to the Navy to get everything done quickly...and indigenously.

Thanks,but isn't the trials are only limited to carbines which India will procure in small numbers not MCIWS.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Thanks,but isn't the trials are only limited to carbines which India will procure in small numbers not MCIWS.

That is a seperate project.For assault rifles it is for 65,000 rifles and for carbines it is 44,000.

After ToT 113,000 Assault rifles and 120,000 carbines will be produced.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Thanks,but isn't the trials are only limited to carbines which India will procure in small numbers not MCIWS.

The INSAS is going to be replaced by the indigenous MCIWS, the ongoing tender for foreign multi-cal rifles and carbines is purely for select )specialist but not SF) units, NOT for the INSAS's replacement in the Army- that, like I said, will be done by the MCIWS.

And the Tavor is not part of that foreign multi-cal tender as it doesn't meet the IA's specifications (calibres it is able to fire).

 

[Ranndhawa]

The INSAS is going to be replaced by the indigenous MCIWS, the ongoing tender for foreign multi-cal rifles and carbines is purely for select )specialist but not SF) units, NOT for the INSAS's replacement in the Army- that, like I said, will be done by the MCIWS.

And the Tavor is not part of that foreign multi-cal tender as it doesn't meet the IA's specifications (calibres it is able to fire).

Select specialist units like SFF and MARCOS?

I know Tavor isn't included in multi cal tender but isn't it produced by IOF on licence?


Thanks

 

[Abingdonboy]

Select specialist units like SFF and MARCOS?

I know Tavor isn't included in multi cal tender but isn't it produced by IOF on licence?


Thanks

The license production of the Tavor in India (Zittara) never began for whatever reason. SFF and MARCOs already use the Tavor, MARCOs are SF and so are SG (unit inside SFF). On top of that many specialist units in the Indian CAPFs (as well as local/state police units) use the Tavor (X-95).

The specialist units I refer to who will be getting these foreign carbines/ multi-cal are purely of the army and units like RR, Mech Infantry, combat engineers, airborne infantry (not SF), pathfinders etc.

 

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GSG 9 is not a French unit.It is German.Why do you relate it to French units in your post?

sorry my mistakeP do nsg have any cooperation with french gign or raid??

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

sorry my mistakeP do nsg have any cooperation with french gign or raid??

Nothing officially.

 

[DIRECT ACTION]

Nothing officially.

there is cooperation in training with the french VIP Security Unit (GAHP) and NSG-SRG. GAHP is SRG's french counter part.

VIP security training by French experts for NSG, November 2013 - La France en Inde / France in India

i thought it was because of the coperation with GIGN/RAID, NSG introduce Renault ACP Sherpa.
while searching Google i found these..

Mr Aulakh also informed mediapersons that the French anti-terror force — GIGN (National Gendarmerie Intervention Group) — had offered to train the NSG commandos.

Post-26/11, India better prepared to deal with terror attacks, says PC - Economic Times

The NSG is also considering training with international counter-terror agencies to further enhance its capabilities. "A team from the French special force, the GIGN, had come and we went to Germany to interact with German counter terrorism force -- GSG 9 -- but this is still at the initial stage."

How the National Security Guard (NSG) has changed after 26/11 From General Military School: Georgians News, National Security Guard, Private Airlines, Mumbai Terrorist Attack, Transporting Commandos, Counter-hijack Force, Counter-terror, Nsg Director General, Indian Air Force, Director General N P S Aulakh, Nsg Headquarters In New Delhi, Mental Endurance, Physical Capability, Indian Police Service, Border Security Force, Director General Of Police, Punjab, International Counter-terror Agencies, German Counter Terrorism Force

The NSG chief, who recently visited the German anti-terror special force (GSG 9) headquarters in Bonn, said the proposal for collaboration with GSG 9 and France’s GIGN is “in initial stages and will be taken up with the Ministry of Home Affairs”.

New NSG hubs to have permanent structures by next year - The Hindu

Terror alerts from intelligence agencies have prompted airlines to seek sky marshals on flights to and from the Gulf countries, and the National Security Guard (NSG) is being asked to help out.

The NSG, which already provides sky marshals for flights originating from India to SAARC countries, looks set to change its manual on dealing with a hijack situation or an act of terror.

"There are several intelligence inputs about terror-related threats to flights from Gulf countries. Airlines and intelligence agencies have been pressing for sky marshals on vulnerable routes," a senior official of the home ministry said.

To acquire better skills, NSG officers have sought permission from the ministry to train sky marshals with the GIGN (National Gendarmerie Intervention Group), a special operations unit of the French armed forces.

The NSG also plans to buy a discarded Boeing or an Airbus in which it can provide real-time training to commandos.

"We have an assembled aircraft which we built on our own. We have been training on this aircraft for the last 20 years at our Manesar training centre. We now want a real aircraft to train our men. In all these years, there have been several modifications to aircraft bodies, so we have to change our training model," an officer said.

The focus is also on a communication system through which sky marshals can interact. "A communication system has to be evolved which will help two sky marshals deployed on an aircraft to alert each other in case of a suspicious person on board. The system has to be such that it does not interfere with the navigation system of the aircraft," the officer said.

Due to the shortage of personnel, the NSG is not able to deploy men on all flights and has asked the ministry to increase its strength. The NSG has also obtained para motor gliding s

n another move, the NSG is to station commandos near the Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi. The NSG would be replacing the Labrador dog breed by Cocker Spaniels for search operations in aircraft. This is being done as it was found that the smaller Cocker Spaniel dogs can conduct search operations better in the congested space inside an aircraft. In a related move, the French elite anti-terrorist force GIGN, has offered special training to NSG commandos on a reciprocal basis.

News behind the News

France offers help for NSG | TopNews

SPHP training programmes for NSG, December 2012
The chief mission of the Indian paramilitary force, National Security Guards (NSG), is counter-terrorism. Involved in training programmes with the GIGN in this area since 2009, the NSG wished to extend the scope of its cooperation with France to include close protection.

The visit of a former NSG director to Paris in 2012 and his meeting with his counterpart at the VIP Protection Service (SPHP) revealed our Indian partner’s interest in this subject. The current NSG director also reaffirmed his commitment to this training to the Internal Security Attaché (ISA) of the Embassy of France in India.

Two experts from the SPHP’s VIP Support Unit (GAHP) thus conducted a trainers’ training programme for fifteen NSG interns from 17 to 21 December 2012 at the Manesar camp in Haryana. The NSG extended a privileged welcome to this programme, which also benefited from the camp’s high-grade logistical support.

The maiden cooperation action organised in this area between our two countries, this training aimed to present French know-how in close protection to Indian partners.

The professionalism and the personality of the SPHP’s designated experts led to very positive feedback on the training.

The dialogue between the two services and expertise sharing through concrete scenarios yielded fruitful and promising exchanges.

The NSG authorities have already informed the ISA of their desire to pursue this well-appreciated exchange in 2013.

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[Abingdonboy]

sorry my mistakeP do nsg have any cooperation with french gign or raid??

NSG trains with GSG-9, GIGN, FBI (don't know if it is the HRT or just SWAT), Russian CT units, Israeli SF and Brazilian CT units. There is not an official agreement wherein they train for x amount of days every year but they do interact with each other and this is only going to increase in the coming years I suspect.

 

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[tyagi]

nsg have purchased eotech holographic sight.but in few numbers

 

[Koovie]

cant see them........

 

[kbd-raaf]

@Abingdonboy you will be pleased to hear that one of your videos has been posted in a Wall Street Journal article

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