Indian Space Capabilities

[abhishekayyagari]

sorry to keep u guys waiting its comming

SUBJECT: UKRAINE: APPEAL FOR USG
FORBEARANCE ON INDIA SPACE
PROGRAM COOPERATION
Classified By: Political Counselor
Kent Logsdon for reasons 1.4(b,d)

1. (C) This is a request for
guidance. Request that the
Department provide the U.S. position
regarding Ukraine
company Yuzhnoye's contract to
prepare blueprints for a
semi-cryogenic, liquid-oxygen/
kerosene-fueled rocket engine
for the Indian Space Research
Organization, as detailed
below, and especially whether the
U.S. would have any
objections to fulfillment of the
contract.

 

[abhishekayyagari]

2. (U) We met September 5 with
National Space Agency of
Ukraine (NSAU) Deputy Director
General Eduard Kuznetsov at
Ukrainian request. He was joined by
NSAU Division Director
Ihor Chuprin; NSAU International
Cooperation Department
Deputy Director Volodymyr Fedotov;
Yuzhnoye Construction
Bureau Department Director for
Marketing, Export Control, and
Licensing Hennadiy Varyanychko; and
MFA Arms Control and
Military Technical Cooperation
Counselor Oleh Belokolos.
Kuznetsov began his presentation by
stressing Ukraine's
scrupulous observance of Missile
Technology Control Regime
(MTCR) requirements.

Ukraine's
strict adherence to MTCR had
led the Ukrainian government to
cancel Pavlohrad Chemical
Plant's export license to provide
mixers to Cyano Chemisive
Systems of India. As a result,
Cyano Chemisive Systems sued
Pavlohrad Chemical Plant, and
Pavlohrad Chemical was blocked
from conducting business in India
for a 7-year period, losing
numerous potential business
opportunities. Furthermore,
Pavlohrad Chemical's competitors in
the tender, U.S.
companies Mayers and Thiokol, had
stepped in to secure
Pavlohrad Chemical's contract.

(SBU) With this painful
experience and in the spirit of
openness, Kuznetsov continued, NSAU
was sharing the details
of a contract between Yuzhnoye and
the Indian Space Research
Organization (INSRO) for Yuzhnoye to
supply plans and
technical specifications for the
construction of a
semi-cryogenic, liquid-fuel rocket
engine. Realizing the
MTCR sensitivities of the contract,
Kuznetsov stressed the
number of safeguards that the
Ukrainian government had built
into the contract, as detailed in
the non-paper in para 5.

In a conversation after the
meeting, Varyanychko
specified that the contract was for
delivery of blueprints
for the rocket engine that ISRO
would use to build its own
engine; Ukrainian companies simply
did not have the
capability actually to construct the
engine themselves. He
stressed that the information would
allow ISRO to build only
one model of engine and reiterated
the point that Yuzhnoye
would not provide any engineering or
technical details on how
the plans had been developed.
Belokolos noted that, if
Ukraine lost the contract, Russian
companies would step in

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

go here

07KYIV2245, UKRAINE: APPEAL FOR USG FORBEARANCE ON INDIA SPACE | Wikileaks: Ukraine

 

[abhishekayyagari]

and warned that the U.S.-Ukraine
relationship would be very
negatively affected if the public
and government officials
were to learn that the U.S. had
prevented the deal from going
through. Varyanychko said the State
Export Control Service
had earlier authorized a license to
negotiate the deal, but
was now holding up the export
license to fulfill the
contract. He appealed for a speedy
and positive U.S.
response.

you are the boss

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

Actually this cooperation with Ukraine is not a secret as one can also find that here

Joint Statement issued during the State Visit of President of Ukraine on


Its all about getting knowledge that will help ISRO to expedite the engine development process.

 

[S-DUCT]

Hmm,I always suspected Ukraine's hand in SCE project.So now its clear that they are helping us.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

Hmm,I always suspected Ukraine's hand in SCE project.So now its clear that they are helping us.

they will provide blueprints of a semi cryo engine nothing more, as they themselves cannot manufacture it. It must be a USSR relic that fell into their hands. Plenty of other stuff will still have to be done by ISRO, Blueprint will help in expediting the process of developing indigenous engine.

 

[Nisha]

they will provide blueprints of a semi cryo engine nothing more, as they themselves cannot manufacture it. It must be a USSR relic that fell into their hands. Plenty of other stuff will still have to be done by ISRO, Blueprint will help in expediting the process of developing indigenous engine.

Hence why China is smart. They put so much effort into Cyberwarfare, they are able to steal all this info from the former USSR. Guess what? Nothing happens to them. Nothing at all.

 

[S-DUCT]

Hence why China is smart. They put so much effort into Cyberwarfare, they are able to steal all this info from the former USSR. Guess what? Nothing happens to them. Nothing at all.

Ukraine being a member of MTCR sold Turbofan engine design for Y-20 strategic lifter.Guess what.? no one including USA raised objections.While in 1993 USA blocked cryo-technolgy assitance from russia to India.It seems that, Rules are made only for non P-5 countries.

 

[IndoUS]

Ukraine being a member of MTCR sold Turbofan engine design for Y-20 strategic lifter.Guess what.? no one including USA raised objections.While in 1993 USA blocked cryo-technolgy assitance from russia to India.It seems that, Rules are made only for non P-5 countries.

You have to also look at this way, till now US was an ally of Pakistan, and we were/are allied with the Soviets/Russians and since US and the Russians were at odds they wouldn't want any high level technology falling into the hands of theirs enemy's friend. But now that the playing field are different and the US is not a pro Pakistan or China, they are rapidly trying to win support in India by pulling deals such as Nuclear deal and the international waiver for India.

 

[Nisha]

You have to also look at this way, till now US was an ally of Pakistan, and we were/are allied with the Soviets/Russians and since US and the Russians were at odds they wouldn't want any high level technology falling into the hands of theirs enemy's friend. But now that the playing field are different and the US is not a pro Pakistan or China, they are rapidly trying to win support in India by pulling deals such as Nuclear deal and the international waiver for India.

Exactly, the ever changing geo political game. People nee dto realize those were different times, different perceptions. Times are changing in this constantly revolving environment.

 

[S-DUCT]

You have to also look at this way, till now US was an ally of Pakistan, and we were/are allied with the Soviets/Russians and since US and the Russians were at odds they wouldn't want any high level technology falling into the hands of theirs enemy's friend. But now that the playing field are different and the US is not a pro Pakistan or China, they are rapidly trying to win support in India by pulling deals such as Nuclear deal and the international waiver for India.

Yeah.But still,they will not sell critical technologies to us.Suppose even if we were ally to USA in 1990s,then still they would'nt let ISRO to get Cryo-technology.

US stepped backed form giving TOT of Javelin ATGM,while Russia helped us design PWR for INS Arihant.

 

[abhishekayyagari]

the vital info of any thing is not stored in the computers that are connected to the internet.
They are all stored in the old fashioned way in the form of documents in safe vaults

 

[S-DUCT]

Manned Space Mission

The Government is nierher planning a manned mission to space by 2015 nor it has any plan at present to set up a space station in future. However, the Government has approved development of a few critical technologies relevant for manned mission.

The Minister of State in the Ministry of Personnel, PG & Pensions and in the Prime Minister’s Office Shri V. Narayanasamy Gave this information in reply to a written question in the Lok Sabha today.

Via PIB

 

[sudhir007]

Marketing arm of Isro loses plea in SC

The Supreme Court today dismissed a petition by the Isro’s marketing arm challenging arbitration proceedings initiated against it by private company Devas Multimedia in Singapore under international laws over the cancellation of a satellite deal.

Antrix Corporation can appeal today’s judgment or face proceedings in Singapore under the rules of the International Chambers of Commerce.

The Centre had in 2011 cited national interest and cancelled the 2005 deal under which Antrix was to provide transponders aboard Isro satellites to Devas for multimedia and video services to mobile users on the ground.

Antrix had planned to invest about Rs 800 crore on two satellites and provide 90 per cent of their capacity to Devas. But two government probes raised suspicions that former Isro officials engaged in “collusive behaviour” to load the deal in favour of Devas and exposed the Centre to financial risk.

When Devas sought to initiate proceedings in Singapore, Antrix had insisted they be held in India and moved the Supreme Court. In April last year, the bench of Justice (now Chief Justice) Altamas Kabir and Justice S.S. Nijjar had stayed Antrix’s participation in proceedings in Singapore. Today, however, the bench dismissed Antrix’s plea.

Antrix is involved in marketing India’s space technology capabilities — hardware, software, satellites and launch services — to foreign customers. Several meetings between Antrix officials and Devas after the decision to cancel the deal remain unexplained elements of the row, space department insiders had said last March, more than a year after the contract was cancelled.